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Fraud Fighter Podcast

Robert Nordlander, CPA, CFE

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Hosted by a former white-collar federal criminal investigator, this bi-weekly podcast seeks to find the best tools, practices, opportunities, and people to answer your questions about fraud and forensic accounting. Every episode is a conversation with an expert in the fraud or forensic accounting industry who has a story to tell, ideas and wisdom to share, successes to inspire, and failures to confess. Where can you find the right credentials for your career? Where can you find the right tra ...
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An unnamed IRS-Criminal Investigation supervisory special agent is making headlines about the politicization of the Department of Justice. The whistleblower is seeking advice from the United States Congress to disclose what he (assuming it is a he) knows regarding preferential treatment of the Department of Justice. In this episode, I discuss the r…
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Leah Wietholter is a CPA, CFE, Private Investigator, and CEO of Workman Forensics, a forensic accounting firm in Tulsa, Oklahoma. She started her career at the FBI, went to a CPA firm, and then later started her own firm. https://www.workmanforensics.com/ https://open.spotify.com/show/5XIzhOCoLSoFG1r4IrJ1Lf In this episode we discuss: Why Leah star…
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Karen Webber is a CPA, CFE, and the founder of FraudFindr.com, a software company specializing in fighting financial exploitation of elderly persons. She is currently a partner at The Bonadio Group. https://fraudfindr.com/ https://www.bonadio.com/our-people/karen-webber In this episode, we discuss: How forensic accounting is used to fight elder abu…
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Brian Behr is the Bankruptcy Administrator for the Eastern District of North Carolina. The Bankruptcy Administrator's Office and the Bankruptcy Trustee's Office are similar across the country. They serve as the watchdog for the Bankruptcy Court. Very often the Bankruptcy Administrator seeks or refers fraud examiners to assist in bankruptcy proceedi…
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Tiffany Couch is an author, forensic accountant and owner of Acuity Forensics. She has a CPA license, CFE and CFF credential. She wrote about fraud stories in "The Thief in Your Company." www.acuityforensics.com In this episode, we discuss: The emotional toll on fraud victims. How she started her forensic accounting business. Why she wrote her book…
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Erin O’Loughin is the Senior Director of Training at the Association of Certified Financial Crime Specialists (ACFCS). She has been an analyst for the CIA and financial institutions. https://www.acfcs.org/ In this episode we discuss: How she started her career in investigating fraud and money laundering How the ACFCS started The role of the ACFCS i…
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In this short episode, there are a few updates on what is happening recently. My new book, Criminal Tax Secrets, is published on Amazon. Please get a copy for that special someone who needs to know how IRS-CI evaluates criminal tax investigations. The book is a reference guide, so a paperback will serve you better than a Kindle; or just get both. A…
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J.P. Davis is a federal public defender for the Western Judicial District of North Carolina. The federal public defender's office represents indigent clients in federal criminal court. At times, those attorneys need experts, especially in white-collar crimes. https://ncw.fd.org/ In this episode, we discuss: The purpose of the federal public defende…
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Sam Azhari is a white collar defense attorney in Chicago, Illinois. He represents defendants across the country. As PPP prosecutions are pursued, Sam talks about how the fraud is committed and how the courts are evaluating the crimes. https://azharillc.com/ In this episode, we discuss: How fraud is committed with PPP and EIDL loans The criteria use…
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Tod McDonald was a CPA investigating a bankruptcy case, when he uncovered the largest Ponzi scheme in the history of the Northwest United States. Seeing the need for forensic accounting software, he co-founded Valid8, a forensic accounting software company. https://www.valid8financial.com/ In this episode, we discuss: How he uncovered the largest P…
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Amanda "Jo" Erven is the President of Audit Consulting Education, LLC. She is an author, trainer, and speaker on Internal Audit and Ethics. She has a CPA and CIA license, and also a CFE credential. Her latest book is "Becoming The Everyday Ethicist: Doing Things the Right Way the First Time", which is available on Amazon. www.auditconsultingeducati…
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A recent federal budget created funding for 87,000 IRS employees over the next 10 years. Unfortunately, there are news reports and in speeches by elected officials, that the IRS is hiring 87,000 armed agents. This is far from the truth. But there is some truth that IRS does have armed agents; the IRS has a Criminal Investigation Division of approxi…
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Don Fort was a former Chief of IRS-Criminal Investigation and is currently the Director of Investigations with the law firm Kostelanetz & Fink. https://kflaw.com/profile/don-fort/ In this episode, we discuss: His journey to becoming an IRS special agent The theory to seize assets from Russian Oligarchs The importance of mentors in this career Havin…
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Alton Sizemore has over 25 years of experience with the FBI as a special agent specializing in forensic accounting. He is a CPA and CFE. He also teaches courses for the Association of Certified Fraud Examiners. At the FBI, he rose to the rank of Assistant Special Agent in Charge which he oversaw many areas of the FBI office in Birmingham, Alabama, …
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The 2022 ACFE Global Fraud Conference was held in June of 2022 in Nashville, TN. Your host, Robert Nordlander, attended the conference and gives a review of the conference, including the venue, speakers, and the event itself. This was his first attendance of the conference so he did not know what to expect and overall gave it a thumbs up. Although …
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In this episode, your host, Robert Nordlander, discusses the difference between a civil tax audit and a criminal tax investigation. The stakes are at the highest in a criminal tax investigation. Therefore, not just any CPA or forensic accountant should be hired by a taxpayer or taxpayer's attorney. Even if the expert is a former IRS employee doesn'…
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Natalie Lewis is a CPA, forensic accountant, and principal with the CPA firm Windham Brannon in Atlanta, GA. She earned a CFF (Certified in Financial Forensics) which is an additional credential for CPAs. https://windhambrannon.com/our-team/natalie-lewis/ https://us.aicpa.org/membership/join/cff-exam.html In this episode, we discuss: The value of t…
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Mike Dunavant is the Chief Investigative Counsel for the Tennessee Comptroller of the Treasury. He is a former state prosecutor and former US Attorney for the Western District of TN. The Comptroller is known as the "Money Cop" to ensure that fraud, waste and abuse are investigated in the state and local government. https://comptroller.tn.gov/ In th…
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Sandy Boxerman is a founding member of the law firm Capes Sokol in St. Louis, Missouri. He defends individuals and corporations in white collar investigations and prosecutions. He also represents taxpayers in civil and criminal tax matters. https://www.capessokol.com/people/sanford-j-boxerman/ In this episode we discuss: The definition of cash skim…
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Derek Benner is a former Executive Associate Director of Homeland Security Investigations (HSI) and currently Managing Director of Thomson Reuters Special Services. In this episode, we discuss: The value of learning from others as a supervisor HSI’s’ shift in enforcing human trafficking How to distinguish yourself for a federal law enforcement job …
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Tom Golden retired as a partner from PricewaterhouseCoopers. At the end of his forensic accounting career, he started writing financial fiction thrillers inspired by real events he experienced. His first book "Sunday Night Fears" is about his first public company audit as a new auditor where he discovered a large financial fraud. His second book "O…
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Dr. Rich Brody is an accounting professor and department chair at the University of New Mexico. Almost 20 years ago, he started his forensic accounting career while as an academic. With his CFE credentials, CPA license and PhD in Accounting, he shares his insight as an expert witness and published author in forensic accounting. https://www.mgt.unm.…
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Nick Bunch is a former Assistant United States Attorney and currently a partner with the law firm Haynes and Boone in Dallas, Texas. One of his prosecutions was on a $17 million embezzlement from Collin Street Bakery, a Texas company that is world famous for its fruitcake. https://www.haynesboone.com/people/bunch-nick In this episode, we discuss: T…
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Ryan Patrick is a former United States Attorney for the Southern District of Texas. He also has experience as a state prosecutor and state judge. He currently is a partner with the law firm Haynes and Boone in Houston, Texas. https://www.haynesboone.com/people/patrick-ryan In this episode, we discuss: The difference between a good investigator and …
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Michelle Schwerin is a tax litigator and white collar criminal defense attorney with the law firm Capes Sokol. She teaches forensic accounting at Webster University, where she uses her talents as both a CPA and lawyer to train forensic accountants on how to deal with lawyers. https://www.capessokol.com/people/michelle-f-schwerin In this episode, we…
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Frank McKenna has over 30 years in the anti-fraud industry. He is the Chief Fraud Strategist for Point Predictive and the author of blog: FrankonFraud. pointpredictive.com frankonfraud.com In this episode, we discuss: How fraud technology is changing the landscape in finding fraud Why the passion for chasing fraud is key to hiring How preventing fr…
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Terry Rich is an entrepreneur, speaker, author, and former director of a state lottery. When a $16 million lottery ticket was suspiciously redeemed, an investigation started and led directly to Eddie Tipton, an computer programmer working for the lottery. This story is how hot dogs, Bigfoot, and a lottery ticket combined into the uncovering of a mu…
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Tom Waldrep is a former bankruptcy judge and the managing partner of the bankruptcy law firm, Waldrep Wall Babcock & Bailey, located in Winston-Salem, North Carolina. In bankruptcy, fraud examinations are vital to ensure that the bankruptcy process is fair and honest. https://www.waldrepwall.com/team/tom-waldrep In this episode, we discuss: The rol…
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Stephen Griffin is an author, former CPA, and private equity investor. As an investor, he had a front row seat in the forensic accounting investigation that led to uncovering a multi-million dollar financial statement fraud scheme of Legacy Global Sports. https://stephengriffinauthor.com/ In this episode, we discuss: The growing industry of sub-col…
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Wow! The Fraud Fighter Podcast is one year old already. The podcast continues to grow in downloads, with the total downloads currently over 1,600 cities in over 100 countries. The podcast is going to published bi-weekly for the near future. As a celebration of the one year anniversary, I am reposting the top downloaded episode in the last 12 months…
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Ian Mitchell is a 20 year veteran in fighting fraud in banking and consulting. He is the founder of The Knoble, a non-profit organization dedicated to fighting human trafficking. He is also a singer and songwriter. https://www.theknoble.com/ https://open.spotify.com/artist/31fwXkfT11l03GkbLvDkMe In this episode, we discuss: The importance of data a…
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Richard Zuckerman was the Acting Assistant Attorney General for the United States Department of Justice, Tax Division. He is currently a partner with the business law firm, Honigman, in Detroit, Michigan. https://www.honigman.com/attorneys-richard-e-zuckerman.html In this episode, we discuss: The importance of the DOJ Tax Division in criminal and c…
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Don Doles is a former USDA-OIG special agent and Josh Howard is former federal prosecutor. Along with other federal agents, Dole investigated a multi-million crop insurance fraud scheme in eastern NC with over 60 defendants. Howard was the federal prosecutor on the investigation before he left to become a defense attorney with Gammon, Howard & Zesz…
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Joe Minni is an Assistant United States Attorney with the Asset Recovery and Financial Litigation Unit (FLU) for the Eastern Judicial District of Pennsylvania. The FLU is the collection arm of the United States Attorney's Office. In this episode, we discuss: The role of the Financial Litigation Unit (FLU) How the FLU collects on various federal jud…
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As a former special agent with IRS-Criminal Investigation, Robert Nordlander reviewed many Suspicious Activity Reports. Compliance Time podcast interviewed Robert Nordlander about how these reports are used in a criminal investigation, what makes a great report, and some stories about bank compliance working and not working. Support the show…
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Scott Harkey is a Senior Financial Crimes Prosecutor with the NC Conference of District Attorneys. He travels throughout North Carolina to prosecute white collar investigations. Forensic accountants are used as expert witnesses for the prosecution. http://www.ncdistrictattorney.org/ In this episode, we discuss: The role of the NC Conference of Dist…
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Dr. Scott Grob is a subject matter expert for ACAMS. He was previously interviewed in Episode 14 about the CAMS credential. While working in Hong Kong, he experienced illegal wildlife and natural resources trade. In this episode, we discuss: Why investigating illegal wildlife trade is important The financial effects of illegal plants and wildlife t…
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Jarod Koopman is a special agent with the Internal Revenue Service, Criminal Investigation. He is currently the Director of the Cyber Crime Unit for the IRS-Criminal Investigation. In this episode, we discuss: The role of the Cyber Crime Unit in the IRS Why the Cyber Crime Unit is vital to the IRS’s mission Some of the success stories of the Cyber …
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Matt Line is the Special Agent in Charge of the Charlotte Field Office at the Internal Revenue Service-Criminal Investigation. He is responsible for the day to day operations of the criminal investigations in NC, SC, and TN. He oversees approximately 100 special agents and professional support staff. https://www.irs.gov/compliance/criminal-investig…
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Benjamin Bain-Creed is an Assistant United States Attorney responsible for Asset Forfeiture in the Western District of North Carolina. As part of the prosecution team, he ensures that the asset forfeiture program is implemented in according to federal law and prosecution policy. In this episode, we discuss: The various types of asset forfeiture The…
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Robyn Shaw is a CPA, CFE, and owner of Facts & Figures Forensics, PLLC, a forensic accounting firm in Colorado Springs, Colorado. She was previously a forensic accountant as a financial analyst with the Colorado’s 4th Judicial District Attorney's office. She has worked on over 40 criminal investigations. www.factsfiguresforensics.com In this episod…
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After 20 years as a special agent with the Internal Revenue Service, Criminal Investigation (IRS-CI), Robert Nordlander decided to start a new chapter in life. He left the agency in mid-March to start a forensic accounting and tax resolution firm called Nordlander CPA, PLLC. www.nordlandercpa.com In this episode, he discussed: The various investiga…
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Heather Culp is a law partner with Essex Richards in Charlotte, North Carolina. She focuses on bankruptcy and commercial litigation. She is frequently hired as a receiver. https://www.essexrichards.com/attorneys/heather-w-culp/ In this episode, we discuss: The difference between bankruptcy and receivership The role of a receiver The role and need f…
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The Fraud Fighter Podcast has produced 20 episodes. The podcast has been downloaded from 75 different countries in 700 cities. It continues to grow thanks to listeners like yourself who are interested in fraud and forensic accounting. From the last 20 episodes, I summarized the key takeaways I had from the 20 guests. Communication is vital, both wr…
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Scott Hogue is currently the Director of Global Investigations at Walmart. In his previous career, he was a special agent with the Internal Revenue Service, Criminal Investigation. In this episode we discuss: How Scott chose forensic accounting and fraud investigations as a career. The different areas that Global Investigations oversee at Walmart T…
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Chrissie A. Powers, CPA/CFF, CFE, CVA is the owner of Powers Forensic Accounting, LLC located in Columbus, Ohio. She left a regional accounting firm that shut down their forensic accounting services niche and decided to start her own boutique firm. https://www.powersforensic.com In this episode, we discuss: How she got started in forensic accountin…
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Kevin Greene is a retired special agent with the Internal Revenue Service, Criminal Investigation. After 27 years of experience in federal criminal investigations, he and another retired federal agent started Eagle Intel Services LLC, a private investigation firm. www.eagleintelservices.com kgreene@eagleintelservices.com In this episode we discuss:…
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Kevin Hanff spent over 22 years as an IRS special agent. He is now the Chief Information Officer for Integritas³, a forensic accounting and compliance company. He discusses the basic software needed to operate a forensic accounting firm. https://www.integritas3.com/ https://www.integritas3.com/kevin-hanff In this episode, we discuss: How informatio…
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Caryn Finley is a federal prosecutor, who spent 18 years with the United States Department of Justice, Tax Division. In this episode, we discuss: The role of the United States Department of Justice, Tax Division The various ways employment tax fraud is conducted When the civil employment tax violations become a criminal violation What federal prose…
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Jeffrey Robinson is an international best selling author. He is considered “one of the world's leading experts on international financial crime.” As a master storyteller, he has written over 30 books, including the best seller “The Laundrymen.” He talked in detail about his 2011 book called “The Takedown”, which describes a federal prosecutor and f…
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