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What are the significant innovations shaping the future of learning? How is digital technology and scientific discovery changing the way we learn, train, teach and educate? Join John Helmer in conversation with the people who are visioning and actively creating that future. Published fortnightly (don't forget to subscribe!).
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Learning Uncut

Michelle Ockers & Karen Moloney

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Learning Uncut is about real conversations around real learning solutions and real experiences with real advice from real people. We’re all about keeping it “real.” Here’s an overview of our approach: Strategy and tactics. We want to unpack the strategy and how-to’s of creating great learning solutions, frameworks and teams. CONVERSATIONS, NOT SCRIPTED DISCUSSION Our podcasts are professional but not so edited and polished that they lose their authenticity. We want our audience to hear real ...
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Michelle Parry-Slater joins Michelle Ockers to discuss why effective compliance learning is crucial and how it can be transformed into a valuable learning experience. Illustrated with real-world examples, we discuss how to ensure that compliance learning is relevant, engaging and effective in driving required behaviours and an interest in further l…
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Learning Technologies London is Europe's leading showcase of organisational learning and the technology used to support learning at work. John Helmer visited the show and talked to a rich mix of the most interesting people he found there: the analyst, the ingenue, the philosopher, the CLO, the keynoter, the vendor, the budget holder and the pirate …
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In this solo Learning Uncut Elevate episode Michelle Ockers introduces the resource ‘Cultivating Learning in Workplace Communities’ – a tool to help people to take deliberate action to cultivate learning in existing workplace communities. She provides a behind the scenes look at the thinking and debate between her and resource co-creators Shannon T…
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Courtney Blackman from Lander & Rogers law firm discusses their work leading innovation in the legal industry. As Head of Partnerships for the firm, Courtney oversees key initiatives like the Law Tech Hub accelerator program for startups and scaleups and AI clinics in partnership with universities. The conversation provides insight into fostering a…
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Nick Petch from Deloitte introduces the innovative concept of Skill Sprints. Skill Sprints accelerate skill acquisition by integrating learning experiences with real-world job tasks. Sprints focus on job tasks and seek to build task related skills. This method allows perople to plan and prioritise their learning activities based on their work. It's…
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Learning Uncut’s Chief Learning Strategist, Michelle Ockers, provides a practitioner’s perspective on the first three recommendations for maximising your training spend in the Ready, Set, Upskill Research Report. This episode follows on from Elevate 31- Ready, Set, Upskill Research Report. The report was released in March 2024 and provides a snapsh…
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Compliance training doesn’t have to be a boring ‘click next’ activity that people endure. James Woodman from Acteon discussed the innovative multi-faceted 6-week campaign they developed to drive behavioural change related to the code of conduct at Channel 4 in the UK. This episode will inspire learning professionals seeking to create meaningful lea…
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An award-winning learning designer reflects on 30 episodes of our sister podcast, Great Minds on Learning. This episode features a deep dive into the history of learning theory with Leonard Houx, Director of Learning Design at the Cambridge Education Group. Host John Helmer and Houx embark on an intellectual journey through the evolution of educati…
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Kade Brown from RMIT Online and Rhiannon Yetsenga from Deloitte Access Economics discuss their latest research on the skills landscape in Australia. The ‘Ready, Set, Upskill’ report was released in March 2024. We explore the nuances and contradictions in the data about key skills gaps in Australia, prioritisation and investment in skills by organis…
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Since 2015, job skill sets have changed by 25%, and this is expected to rise to 65% by 2030. LinkedIn's data shows the evolution of skills required for jobs, emphasising the need for a skills-based approach to talent management. In this episode we take a look at how LinkedIn is supporting their workforce with a skills-based approach to career devel…
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What does the intense focus on AI in learning today have to say about the future of L&D? Don Taylor is a well-recognised commentator and thinker in the fields of workplace learning and supporting technologies. He speaks world-wide, and has chaired the Learning Technologies Conference in London since 2000. His annual L&D Global Sentiment Survey, sta…
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Kath Hume’s professional focus encompasses both workforce planning and L&D. She’s the perfect person to explain what workforce planning is and the role of L&D in strategic workforce planning. After outlining the three ‘horizons’ of workforce planning – strategic, tactical and day-to-day, Kath using the six B’s (Bind, Build, Borrow, Boost, Bounce, B…
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Ryan Tracey, brings over two decades of experience in learning and development to the table, from his early days in e-learning design and development to mastering the art of scaling L&D initiatives across diverse and widespread organisation landscapes. He shares his experience generously in this episode, peppering his advice with real-world example…
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Turning uncertainty from a problem into an opportunity. We are living in a time of great uncertainty. Economies are still suffering the effects of Covid. Countries that are home to nearly half the world's population will hold elections in 2024. Meanwhile the climate is going mad, and geopolitics seem balanced on a knife edge. How do we cope with al…
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What’s new in learning and development in 2024? Whether we’re talking about what’s hot, or what concerns us, you might be forgiven for thinking that the answer can be expressed in two letters: AI. But things are more complex than that. Donald H Taylor, lead researcher, discusses key insights from the L&D Global Sentiment Survey 2024. Hosted by Mich…
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In this episode of Learning Uncut, Peter McKenzie from UnitingCare Queensland joins Michelle Ockers to discuss the First Nations Cultural Appreciation course. They dive into the process of creating the four-module eLearning program including the research, story gathering, design processes and stakeholder review. Furthermore, they discuss what aspec…
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In the age of AI, what do we need humans for? The latest advances in AI are highlighting human capabilities, and particularly shortcomings, in a way that causes us once again to re-evaluate what it is to be human. Rob Hubbard is Founder of LearningAge Solutions, an award-winning provider of digital learning services that practices what it calls hum…
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Dr Anna Barnett and Gent Ahmetaj join Michelle Ockers to discuss the third of the 20th anniversary reports from the annual L&D benchmark research conducted by Mind Tools for Business. They discuss the key megatrends forecasted to reshape the future of L&D including AI, climate change and diversity. They explain how these trends were identified, pot…
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In this episode, we dive deep into how Fletcher Building, one of New Zealand's largest employers, has created a significant shift in safety culture and outcomes. Anthony Mitchell, an EHS Manager from Fletcher Building, and Heidi Lance from Real Learning share the story of how their award-winning Safety Leadership program dramatically shifted the be…
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Does the way we talk about learning improve our understanding – or hold it back? The language of learning is charged with resonant abstract nouns that mobilize professionals around new ideas and concepts. But are these concepts really so new in all cases – and do they provide a focus for practical action? To what extent is the debate driven by the …
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Gent Ahmetaj and Dr Anna Barnett join Michelle Ockers to discuss a the 20th anniversary reports from the annual L&D benchmark research conducted by Mind Tools for Business. They discuss the key findings from analysing this year's benchmark data, particularly focusing on the importance of strategic business alignment for high-performing L&D teams. T…
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There is a shift underway in workplace behaviour in the Australian construction industry to create a more welcoming, respectful and inclusive culture. Multiplex has embraced this change with their award-winning Appropriate Workplace Behaviour program. Karina Moon and Annaleigh McKay discuss the program which aims to equip employees with the knowled…
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Can business professionals perform better with improv skills? We admire great improvisers in music (Charlie Parker, Jimi Hendrix, etc.) while tending to be suspicious of leaders in business and government who seem to be 'making it up as they go along'. But are we right to think that way? Berlin-based Belina Raffy runs a consultancy and training com…
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Strategic and business alignment is a key practice for top-performing L&D teams. Creating an organisational learning strategy is an opportunity to focus intensively on alignment, deepening stakeholder relationships and getting clarity on what matters most to them. Putting a learning strategy and action plan in place that aligns with these prioritie…
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Are you moving into a new organisation in an L&D Leader role? Set yourself up for success with this special Learning Uncut Playbook. Drawing upon the experience of past Learning Uncut podcast guests, we’ve identified a number of aspects to focus on in your first 90 days to establish and position yourself in your organisation to have strong influenc…
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What is the best approach to using AI for learning in an organisation? My guest this time on the Learning Hack thinks that it’s really important to know what problem you are trying to solve with AI in order to use it effectively for learning. The product has to come before the product. Egle Vinauskaite is the award-winning director of the learning …
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Continuing their series on skills development, Ravina Bhatia and Michelle Ockers walk through a real world case study from a mid-sized Australian Retail Bank to showcase the application of Learning Uncut’s three stage process for skills development. This example highlights how the context of the team/organisation influences skills development and d…
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The Learning Uncut podcast is over five and a half years old, with more than 147,000 unique downloads in over 120 countries. In 2023 we’ve added over 20 regular case study episodes, as well as resuming the Elevate series. Laura Overton from Learning Changemakers joins host Michelle Ockers to look back over 2023. They discuss professional highlights…
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Continuing their series on skills development, Ravina Bhatia and Michelle Ockers walk through the three-stage Learning Uncut process for skills development: (1) co-design a custom skills framework (2) implement the framework (3) develop a skills toolkit. They outline the key tasks in each phase and link them back to the elements of skills building …
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IOR is a small, innovative Australian family owned and operated business with a diverse range of services in the ‘fuels’ industry. This episode focuses on supporting drivers who deliver fuel to remotely operated 24-hour diesel stops that service remote areas of Australia. While the business is high tech the learning and performance support approach…
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Continuing their series on Skills Development, Ravina Bhatia and Michelle Ockers explore the critical element of ‘accessible development’. This is all about easy access, easy navigation and using development tools and resources when and where you want to. They discuss accepting the friction points that exist in your organisation and making access e…
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Learning Uncut's host, Michelle Ockers, interviews Claire Seldon, a learning designer and gamification consultant. Claire works for the Department of Education in New South Wales and leads a team of designers in creating gamified digital interactives for students. She is also an academic at the University of Technology, Sydney, specializing in gami…
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Continuing their series on Skills Development, Ravina Bhatia and Michelle Ockers explore multifaceted development approaches. They discuss why it’s important to use a variety of development approaches, and the most common gaps in the approaches offered for development in organisations. This is the fourth in our Learning Uncut Elevate series on Skil…
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BONUS EPISODE: A talk by John Helmer recorded at the New Learning Conference, Netherlands. Podcasts are everywhere, and have become recognised as a powerful information medium. But can a podcast really cut the mustard as a learning experience? This talk by John Helmer of the Learning Hack podcast, given as a 'live podcast session' at the Next Learn…
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Keara Byrne, the Head of Leadership and Organisational Development at Arriba Group, discusses her extensive use of human-centered design (HCD) in various organisations. Keara shares her passion for HCD and its value in creating effective solutions. She stands by the claim that without HCD, she would have wasted time, money, and credibility. Listen …
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Continuing their series on Skills Development, Ravina Bhatia and Michelle Ockers explore the critical element of goal alignment in skills development. They discuss the challenges of aligning personal development goals with organisational objectives and emphasize the importance of this alignment for success. This is the third in our Learning Uncut E…
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Simon Jobson, the Director of Capability and Learning at Sydney Trains discusses their Elevate customer service training program for their operational workforce of over 2,000 people. The program was designed using an evidence-based approach that drew on insights from business data and employee focus groups. The digital learning program is problem-c…
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What can horses and brain damage teach us about learning? Sarah Ratcliff is an award-winning Learning Consultant, Speaker, and Ambassador for Learning, with over twenty years experience in the industry. She is currently a spokesperson for the learning provider Cegos, and a regular chair for the Learning Technologies conference. In 2020, she earned …
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Continuing our special Learning Uncut Elevate series on Skills Development, Learning Uncut Co-Founders Ravina Bhatia and Michelle Ockers discuss the seven key elements of skills development. They explore what it means to have these elements in place and how they can help organizations set up a successful skills development journey. Whether you're j…
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Michelle speaks with Fabrizio Conrado, the Director of AI and Technology at Avado, about building an integrated learning technology infrastructure. Fabrizio discusses Avado's journey in selecting Thought Industries as their LMS provider and how they successfully integrated it with other technology elements. He also shares key considerations for sel…
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'It all started when NASA read our code ...' Jussi Hurskainen is CEO and co-founder of Valamis, a learning systems company with offices in in the US, India, and across Europe, but headquartered in Finland. In a crowded market, Valamis distinguishes itself by the sophisticated way its platform handles data. Jussi tells John about how the product got…
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Skills development has gained significant attention in L&D in recent years, particularly in the context of the COVID-19 pandemic and rapidly changing business landscape. In this Elevate episode Learning Uncut co-founders Ravina Bhatia and Michelle Ockers discuss how skills development has evolved in recent years and fundamentals for getting started…
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In this episode, James Kennedy, a civil engineer and change practitioner, discusses the contractor safety management program at Australian Rail Track Corporation (ARTC). He shares how his childhood passion for LEGOs sparked his curiosity about how things work and how his team used data to rectify their initial misconceptions and bolster program des…
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Lauren Waldman is a learning consultant, educator, and the founder of The Learning Pirate. She is a certified training and development professional and has received qualifications in Neuroscience from Harvard and John Hopkins University, and in Medical Neuroscience from Duke. She works with organizations to create bespoke, scientifically designed l…
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Kevin M. Yates is known in the global training, learning, and talent development community as the L&D Detective. He investigates impact and solves measurement mysteries with facts, clues, evidence, and data. His rigorous but pragmatic approach is informed by 25+ years industry experience serving in diverse roles across multiple industries and brand…
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Join Michelle Ockers for a compelling conversation with Dustin Lacasse, the L&D Lead at the San Diego Zoo, as they delve into the world of non-profit L&D. Lacasse shares his personal experiences, highlighting both the challenges and possibilities. He brings to light his team’s strategic approach to performance management by moving away from a “need…
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With their delivery of humanitarian aid to Ukraine accomplished, Andy and John head back home, retracing their tracks across Northern Europe. In a harrowing interview, John talks to a Ukrainian elearning specialist now based in Germany following the sad death of her husband on the frontline in Bahmut. And in Theorists Corner we feature John Comeniu…
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Arrived in Ukraine, Andy and John deliver their aid to the hospital in Lviv. With the main object of the trip accomplished, they take a walk around the city and assess the mood. John interviews Vladimir Polo, a learntech entrepreneur based in Odesa about what it has been like to run a learning company in a war zone. And, in Theorists Corner we feat…
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How Waka Kotahi New Zealand Transport has piloted a customised micro-credential to develop storytelling skills across their workforce. Our guests are Stacie Swindon, a learning and development consultant from Waka Kotahi and Marcus Garrett, an instructional designer from RMIT Online who partnered on this project. Our host, Michelle Ockers, from Lea…
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Over three episodes we tell the story of what happened when John Helmer hitched a ride with Andy Wooler, chair of Ukraine Fundraiser 2022, to help deliver humanitarian aid to recently bombed Lviv. They chat about the conflict, about learning ... and about the history of the continent they are crossing from West to East. 00:00 - Start 00:44 - Intro …
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