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Bring On The Mess! TM

For All Seasons Behavioral Health and Rape Crisis Center

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Bring on the Mess Podcast is about embracing the messiness in life through real and honest conversations that explore life’s challenges - taking a deeper look at mental health and the ways we can show up and uncover our truest self at home and at work. For All Seasons CEO, Beth Anne Dorman, and Chief Clinical Officer, Lesa Lee, examine what everyday courage looks like and the many ways it can be defined. They bring a unique perspective, weaving in their experiences in therapy, consulting cou ...
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Tina and Ann met as journalists covering a capital murder trial, 15 years ago. Tina has been a tv and radio personality and has three children. Ann has a master's in counseling and has worked in the jail system, was a director of a battered woman's shelter/rape crisis center, worked as an assistant director at a school for children with autism, worked with abused kids and is currently raising her three children who have autism. She also is autistic and was told would not graduate high school ...
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*Trigger warning for all podcasts due to sensitive topic* This podcast is for adults about child sexual abuse prevention and related topics hosted by Zina Ponsell. Zina has a long history of working with children. She started her journey with a BA in Sociology as a Resource Coordinator for a Prekindergarten in 1997, where she assisted families and their children with daily life struggles. While working at the Prekindergarten, she began volunteering at a Rape Crisis/Child Advocacy Center with ...
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Send us a Text Message. Today’s podcast is split into two segments. The main subject of these 2 podcasts in regard to child sexual abuse is what some professionals may call ‘child on child’. This is where the alleged victim and the alleged perpetrator are both children. Part 1 focuses on normal childhood curiosity about little bodies. The podcast i…
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This episode is part, inspired by an amazing podcast by Jeff Lewis with Dr. Donna Dannenfelser. Dr. Donna was a counselor to the NY Jets who knew nothing about football. She knew it was going to happen, and she made it happen. If we do not want to derail, we have to be the conductor of our own train. Listen as Tina and Ann discuss each car and how …
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Send us a Text Message. This podcast provides information about male victims of child sexual abuse, such as, how to help a child victim, what to say to an adult male survivor of child sexual abuse and how to assist them in healing from their childhood trauma. Also, the question of do all male victims turn into offenders is addressed (short answer i…
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In this episode of "Bring on the Mess," hosts Beth Ann Dorman, CEO of For All Seasons, and Lisa Mulcahy, Chief Clinical Officer, dive into the complex emotion of anger. With their characteristic honesty and humor, they explore the causes and effects of anger, both internally and externally, stressing the importance of understanding anger's triggers…
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This episode is inspired by a Jeff Lewis podcast episode featuring Dr. Donna Dannenfelser, who impressively transitioned from knowing absolutely nothing about football to a counselor for the New York through a mix of humor and heartfelt stories, the pair place their lives on a stage. We each write the scripts for our lives and cast the people in ou…
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Send us a Text Message. Welcome back! This episode defines what triggers and coping strategies are in general and goes more in depth on triggers and coping strategies in young children and teens who have been victims of child sexual abuse. Provided are specific examples for both age groups, young children and teens, of possible triggers and coping …
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When Thomas Edison created the lightbulb, he gave the only functional lightbulb to a boy in the workshop. This story will offer you a different perspective not only in how to treat others, but yourself. This episode helps to challenge our thought patterns and inspires to break through some of life's biggest challenges. What if someone believed in y…
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Send us a Text Message. Your mental health is a part of your physical health and is very important, as you are. Since May is Mental Health Awareness Month, it was decided we would focus on the importance of knowing the different mental health issues that could possibly be related to child sexual abuse trauma and the huge significance getting help c…
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Everything is found on the other side. This episode is such an uplifting episode, you will want to conquer the world and all your hurdles in your life by the time part 1 is finished. Ann shares her very empowering stories of how she actually taught her brain how to learn. They thought she would not be able to ride a bike because of her spatial sens…
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Send us a Text Message. This podcast explains how Child Advocacy Centers developed, what purpose they serve in helping child sexual abuse victims and their families, and how they work with investigative agencies in gathering evidence. Also discussed is the National Children's Advocacy Center located in Huntsville, Alabama, which was the very first …
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In this episode of Bring on the Mess, Beth Ann Dorman, CEO, and Lesa Mulcahy, Chief Clinical Officer at For All Seasons, continue to discuss Sexual Assault Awareness Month. They tackle the myths surrounding sexual assault and shed light on the truths often obscured by common misconceptions. From debunking the myth that a spouse cannot commit sexual…
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In this episode of Bring on the Mess, Beth Ann Dorman, CEO, and Lesa Mulcahy, Chief Clinical Officer at For All Seasons, delve into the essence of mental health during Mental Health Awareness Month. They explore the aspects of emotional, psychological, and social well-being, dissecting the nuances between day-to-day struggles and diagnosable mental…
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Do past mistakes decide the love you should receive? Are we conditioned to accept less than we deserve due to our history? Can a person be tainted according to their family tree? Is there anything that disqualifies you from love or feeling worthy? Consider this Jacob Brown quote. YOU are who you're bloodline was waiting for. Quote: When everyone se…
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Send us a Text Message. This episode provides an overview of six children's body safety books with high ratings. All of these books are available on Amazon, in addition to many, many more. The books mentioned in this episode are: 1. Where Hands Go. An Introduction to Safe and Unsafe Touches 2. Body Safety Book for Kids by Tim 3. My Body Belongs to …
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What if we have a blemish in our life? What if we have done something that we feel is so horrific that we allow other's to treat us badly? What if we feel that we do not deserve good? What if you flip that and realize that even if your parents and their parents had a lifetime of bad choices, that you look in the mirror and say, "I am the one who my…
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Send us a Text Message. This episode is just what the title states...and more. While communication with your child is still key in keeping them safe, information on teaching body boundaries is provided for you on what to do and what not to do (Santa Clause/family example). A segment on how to teach your child the name of their anatomy is discussed.…
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Every time we step into the recording studio, we carry with us the stories of those we've met in the most unexpected places—like the battered woman's shelter where Ann once worked or the shadowed hallways of the courthouse where Tina and Ann witnessed the heartbreak of a murder trial. These experiences, though not their own, have left an indelible …
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Send us a Text Message. Hi Everybody! This episode picks up where the previous episode left off from talking about visual physical indicators, moving forward, to physical problems you cannot see, as a possible result of child sexual abuse. An introduction to Child Advocacy Centers is discussed. A reminder is provided to have a child seen by a docto…
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We're all shaped by the moments that challenge us. This is part 2 with musical genius Michael Haburay. This episode begins with Michael and host, Ann, sharing the loss of both of their dad's at a very young age and their paths of self destruction and rebellion. The duo share what it took to get into treatment and to turn their lives around. Tough l…
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Send us a Text Message. Hi Everyone! Just tossed this together to invite you to our facebook group. Pop on over and join us. If you have any information you would like to share with others to better protect our children from pedophiles, you are welcome to share it within our private group. We are all better together! Zina Join our private facebook …
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Send us a Text Message. Welcome to our 3rd episode of Child Sexual Abuse Prevention by Zina. Consider this episode an introduction in speaking with your child regarding signs of possible child sexual abuse they may be exhibiting. This episode provides a sample scenario of a physical sign indicator of possible child sexual abuse on a younger child, …
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From the death of his dad, to the consequences of addiction, Michael took his pain , did a 180 and now reaches the masses. He realized he needed to change when he no longer recognized the man in the mirror and was compromising his moral compass on a regular basis. He sought the help that he needed and is taking his musical talent to stages all over…
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Send us a Text Message. In this episode, additional statistical data and indicators of Child Sexual Abuse in Children and Teens are discussed. The information was obtained from the Darkness to Light Stewards of Children 2.0 training workbook, as well as Psychology Today. Don't forget this podcast is for adults only. Thank you so much for listening!…
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Have you ever stood at life's crossroads, weighed down by the what-ifs and should-have-dones? Our latest episode takes you through the twists and turns of life's journey, reflecting on the tough decisions we've all made and the lingering sting of regret. We navigate the bittersweet paths of past choices, like the heartache of not saying goodbye to …
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Send us a Text Message. Episode 1 provides a detailed introduction of your podcast host, Zina Ponsell. Additionally, information on the National Sexual Assault 24-hour Hotline called RAINN, Rape, Abuse and Incest National Network, was introduced as a resource for any adult survivor of child sexual abuse. The RAINN website is www.rainn.org or call 1…
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As Viola Davis once eloquently captured, life's akin to a relay race where we pass the baton between our past, present, and future selves. In this heart-to-heart session, we unpack this powerful metaphor, discussing how our history can tether us down and exploring the liberation that comes with confronting childhood trauma. Through personal tales w…
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Navigating daily life can be a labyrinth, especially when you see the world through the unique prism of autism. On our latest episode of Real Talk with Tina and Ann, we're joined by Ann herself, who not only lives with autism but is also the mother to three autistic children. She opens up about the silent battles in classrooms and the victories won…
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Send us a Text Message. This short episode is a brief introduction to upcoming podcasts on Child Sexual Abuse Prevention, dropping on Thursdays beginning April 2024. I welcome you to join me! Send me an email at csapreventionbyzina@gmail.com. Ask me any questions you may have. We will navigate forward together in protecting children from sexual pre…
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This week's episode has never gone this deep before. Ann shares things she has never shared in this raw, unfiltered depiction of why she believes we survive the unthinkable. She shares why she dropped to the floor and found herself in a ball on the floor unable to get up. She finally found it within herself to get up and move, but what put her ther…
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As we commemorate the 30th anniversary of Kurt Cobain's untimely departure, we find ourselves discussing the impact music makes in our lives. Tina and Ann discuss healing through music, a collective cry as many find their voice in the gritty anthems of a generation. Th pair talk about the artists who've given voice to their deepest struggles and ho…
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This week's episode is a reminder to look past the 'attention-seeking' behavior and look at it as connection seeking. This episode is for anyone who has had someone change the trajectory of their life with a simple act of kindness or if you have done this for someone else. Join us (Ann and guest host Denise Bard) as we embrace the fact that our pas…
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Join hosts Beth Ann Dorman, CEO at For All Seasons, and Lesa Lee, Chief Clinical Officer, as they welcome Dr. Jeff Thompson, a retired NYPD detective and mental health and wellness expert. Together, they dig into the challenges faced by first responders, emphasizing the importance of acknowledging life's mess while finding positive coping mechanism…
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Join hosts Beth Ann Dorman, CEO at For All Seasons, and Lesa Lee, Chief Clinical Officer, as they discuss how important it is to be kind and attentive in conversations with those who may have differing opinions from yours. They discuss how to actively listen to others rather than be not in the moment because of your own thoughts and opinions. Each …
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This episode was inspired by a statement made in Kara Swisher's recent book, The Burn Book. Tina and Ann discuss how Trauma changed them for...wait for it...the better? How can that happen. Well, trauma is not what made them better, but their strength, determination and resilience changed trauma's path. The two discuss how their trauma actually mad…
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When the ground beneath you shakes, trust can crumble into dust. That's the stark reality for many who've walked through the storm of trauma, a journey Tina and Ann understand all too well. Do we keep up our walls, open a window, or build a bridge of trust. Our intimate stories serve as beacons for those navigating the murky waters of skepticism, w…
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In the episode of Bring on the Mess! TM, Beth Anne Dorman and Leesa Lee discuss how important it is to help our children learn to navigate relationships inside and outside of their home and family. They discuss guiding them through forming and nurturing those relationships wether it be at school, or in other outside activities and how important it …
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Every year, as the calendar circles back to the day we said goodbye to a loss, we find solace in the small rituals we've created to honor memories. Today's episode is a tender exploration of how we navigate the poignant anniversaries of loss—be it a loved one's passing, a divorce, or any pivotal goodbye. Together,, we share stories close to the hea…
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Tina and Ann get nostalgic in the complex tapestry of emotions that anniversaries weave into our lives. We unfurl the delicate threads of joy, heartache with reconciling past grievances with love and understanding. It's a journey through the winding roads of grief, where sorrow and celebration often hold hands. The dialogue ventures into the realm …
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As Ann and Charde Young ( Love Freely) wrap up this three-part series, they continue their conversation on doing it afraid and the beautifulness of being vulnerable. They inspire many as they talk family secrets, betrayal, their search for self-acceptance and how affirmations guide them toward self-love as they try to light the path for others. The…
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A personal message from Ann. She gets personal and candid after reading Mariska Hargitay's (Olivia Benson from SVU) article in People Magazine and saw her interview on the Today Show. Ann gets honest and talks about Mariska's situation and how to take pain and turn it into helping others. She discusses showing your true self, scars and all. S Havin…
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Vulnerability equals strength. Authentic, emotional bravery vs. societal pressures of concealment. Charde Young, also known as Love Freely, as we discuss how our toughest moments can lead us to profound growth and authenticity fosters genuine connections. Destiny vs. Choice. Was your path chosen for you or do you choose your path. Can we find life'…
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In the “Moving Through Times of Loss and Sadness Together” podcast, Dorman and Lee share how the holidays can be a sad time for many people. Suicide is a reality that is happening across the country and has happened in our own community this past month. Depression, anxiety, grief, stress, and feeling alone, sad, lost . . . we all have experienced t…
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In this episode of Real Talk with Tina and Ann, Ann interviews Charde young who is also known as Love Freely, on stage. Charde is in several bands. She is one of the singers in Apostle Jones, a band that has been named, Best Band in Cleveland, Ohio. She has two of her own bands, Mixed Feelings and New Vibe. She also has performed with Tropidelic. S…
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When our own childhood traumas resurface in the role of a parent, the journey takes on a deeper significance. In the intimate space of this episode, Ann shares the story of her son's struggle at school, an ordeal that brought forth her buried yearnings for protection and understanding. This isn't just a narrative about the challenges we face; it's …
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Embarking on a journey through the trials of motherhood and the quest for personal growth, We discuss profound ways our own upbringing shaped our approach to raising our children. With raw honesty, we share the pivotal transformation we underwent to provide our kids with what we never had—a cycle of nurturance over abuse. Every parent faces unique …
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When the echoes of our past traumas surface as we navigate the waters of parenthood, the journey can be complex. Denise and Ann open up about the raw, emotional challenges they've faced in an attempt to parent effectively without their fears and experiences overshadowing our children's growth. From confronting the specter of inappropriate behavior …
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In this episode of "Bring on the Mess," hosts Beth Ann Dorman and Lisa Lee, CEO and Chief Clinical Officer at For All Seasons, engage in a candid conversation about self-harm. Acknowledging the sensitivity of the topic, they emphasize the importance of real conversations and share strategies for understanding and addressing self-harm. Lisa, a licen…
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When the heartache of loss intertwines with the courage to embark on new beginnings, we find ourselves at life's most pivotal crossroads. While we have moments of sorrow, we find strength at the dawn of new chapters. Navigating the complexities of life doesn't come without its trials. Our conversation weaves through what shapes our journey, confron…
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Our latest episode offers an intimate glimpse into the dichotomy of the winter months, from the warm glow of family gatherings to the cold touch of loneliness and loss. We recount our own experiences, and share how the festivities can sometimes deepen the shadows for those grappling with grief , emotional pain or health challenges, With recollectio…
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