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Seeing Death Clearly is a show that challenges you to think about your beliefs about death, dying, grief, and living life. I am your host, Jill McClennen, a death doula and end-of-life coach. As a death doula, I found through first-hand experience that the more I came to terms with my thoughts and feelings about death and dying, the more present I became in my everyday life and I hope to share that with you too, how you can live a better life by having a healthier relationship with death and ...
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End of Life Conversations

Rev Annalouiza Armendariz & Rev Wakil David Matthews

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In this podcast, we'll share people’s experiences with the end of life. We have reached out to experts in the field, front-line workers, as well as friends, neighbors, and the community, to have conversations about their experiences with death and dying. We have invited wonderful people to sit with us and listen to each other’s stories. Our goal is to provide you with information and resources that can help all of us navigate and better understand this important subject. You can find us on F ...
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Send us a Text Message. For this unique episode, we will be interviewing Professor Harald Walach PhD. Professor Walach is a clinical psychologist, philosopher of science, and researcher at the interface between medicine, psychology, and consciousness studies. He is a professorial research fellow with the Next Society Institute at Kazimierash Simona…
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In this episode, my guest is Dr. Brendan Kwiatkowski, an educator, researcher, and speaker focused on the social-emotional development and well-being of boys and men. Brendan, who earned his Ph.D. in Education from the University of Edinburgh in 2023, conducted an in-depth study on the emotions, masculinities, and schooling experiences of teenage b…
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In this episode, my guest is Ashley Oppon, host of "Dine with the Divine." Ashley, a registered nurse from New Jersey, describes her nursing job as her "muggle job," revealing her love for theology and religion. Growing up Catholic, Ashley's curiosity led her to explore various faiths, finding something meaningful in each. This exploration shaped h…
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Send us a Text Message. In this episode, we talk with Julie Lockhart, a retired academic. During the last years of her career, she led a grief support nonprofit called WinterSpring, where she discovered the beauty and depth of personal stories. There she shared her own experience, which helped grieving people feel less alone. Julie loves an adventu…
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In this week's episode, I talk with Helen Bauer, host of the Heart of Hospice podcast. This is part 2 of a two-part interview. Over the years, she's observed a profound inward shift in patients as they approach death, noticing changes in their communication and socialization long before their bodies begin to shut down. In describing the dying proce…
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In this week's episode, I talk with Helen Bower, host of the Heart of Hospice podcast. This is part 1 of a two-part interview. The following is a link to my guest episode of The Heart of Hospice Podcast. https://www.theheartofhospice.com/podcast/episode/23f1c2af/death-doulas-are-expert-guides-at-end-of-life As a nurse with 34 years of practice, Hel…
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Send us a Text Message. Arlene Hoag, a hospice volunteer and co-chairman of the Mountains of Courage conference, shares her experiences and insights on death and dying. She discusses her early encounters with death, the grief she experienced when a friend passed away, and the importance of communicating with loved ones who have passed. Arlene also …
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My guest today is Sue Burns, author of the book A Common Life, A Voice from the Progressive Era where she published her great-great grandmother Mary's diary from the late 19th century Iowa farm life. We talk about the demographics of Iowa in the late 19th century., Her great great grandmother, Mary, managed to raise six children without losing any,…
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Amy Flanagan has had a diverse career journey that led her to a unique role in medical education. Initially pursuing acting from a young age her passion shifted, leading her to the Uniformed Services University, the U.S. military's medical school. There, she played patients with different illnesses, aiding medical students in honing their diagnosti…
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Welcome back to the Savvy Communicator! Facing adversity with resilience can lead to remarkable transformations, as Dr. Christina Fontana's journey from trauma to triumph so powerfully demonstrates. In our latest episode, Christina shares the raw and often hidden struggles that shaped her, and the profound metamorphosis that occurs when one turns t…
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Send us a Text Message. In this episode, we speak to Laura Davis, author of The Burning Light of Two Stars, The Courage to Heal, and four other books. In addition to writing books that inspire, the work of Laura’s heart is to teach. For over twenty years, she’s helped people find their voices, tell their stories, and hone their craft. She teaches o…
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My guest in this episode is Chaplain Hank Dunn. Hank is an ordained healthcare chaplain, bestselling author, and speaker who, for more than 30 years, has been helping patients and their families as they struggle with end-of-life decisions. In this episode emphasizes the importance of understanding these treatments as they may not always align with …
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Send us a Text Message. We were honored to meet and talk with Jill McClennen in this episode. She is a certified death doula, a non-medical professional specially trained to provide holistic care for individuals in their final stages of life. She offers comprehensive support, preparation, and deep soul healing to her clients and their families, whe…
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Following the decision, I prioritized my aunt's comfort as we prepared to remove her oxygen support. The nurse and I made her as comfortable as possible, opting for comfort care with a touch of morphine to ease her pain. Reflecting on the day, I found solace in the serenity of the room. With all distractions muted, I held her hand, conveying love a…
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In the latest episode, I share a personal experience of losing my aunt after her two-week stay in the ICU. Despite being familiar with medical procedures from my volunteer work, seeing a loved one in that setting was different. I remember walking into the ICU and hardly recognizing her. During her last days, the hospital ensured her comfort, althou…
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Send us a Text Message. Please note this content warning for the following episode. In this episode our friend Kate speaks about her experience with putting down a beloved horse. Please take care of yourselves. Today we are excited to have a conversation with Kate Schuyler. She is an active student of life, self, and the heart, a mother, grandmothe…
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Marie Scott, the Creator and Founder of Happy and Healthy After Widowhood boasts an impressive resume as a best-selling author of three published books, with two more in the pipeline. She's also recognized internationally as a speaker and holds certifications as a Health and Grief Coach. Following the loss of Dave, her husband of three decades, and…
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Meloney, a first-generation BVI islander from Tortola in the Caribbean, shares her unique cultural background, heavily influenced by her Jamaican roots. She highlights the diverse religious and cultural landscape of Jamaica, including the presence of various ethnicities and religions. Despite being predominantly Christian, Jamaican culture is a fus…
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Send us a Text Message. In this episode, we are blessed to spend time with the Rev. Judith Laxer. She is a modern-day mystic who believes that beauty, humor, and the wonders of nature make life worth living. The founding Priestess of Gaia’s Temple, Judith is a keynote and TEDx speaker, teacher of the magickal arts and mysteries, and author of Along…
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Dr. Kim Harms has encountered numerous challenges throughout her 67 years. She endured the tragic losses of her mother, son, and husband, all to different circumstances. These losses prompted her to delve into the topic of death, exploring how individuals manage it and the impact it has on their lives. In her reflections, Kim highlights the unexpec…
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Isabel Knight, also known as The Death Designer, operates a unique business focused on end-of-life planning. She employs principles of human-centered design to assist individuals in navigating the complexities of death care. This approach involves co-creating systems and products with users to ensure they meet their needs effectively. Isabel emphas…
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Send us a Text Message. In this episode, we had the honor of sharing a conversation with Jeffrey and Stephanie, a married couple who live on an island near Seattle. Jeffrey has his master's and a Ph.D. in agriculture and has been working in food security in Sub-Saharan Africa for over 20 years. He has found that our humanity comes before our agenda…
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Jen Henry was born and raised in Riverside, California, where she still resides. Her mission, which she refers to as lifestyle recovery, stems from her upbringing as an only child, where everything was handed to her without understanding the value of need or want. Despite having both parents, she felt disconnected and misunderstood, with her emotio…
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Death isn't often a comfortable coffee table discussion, but it is as natural as life itself. In an honest and eye-opening conversation with Jill McClennen, a seasoned death Doula, we traverse the delicate terrain of end-of-life planning and the profound services provided by those who guide us through our final days. Jill enlightens us on the paral…
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Send us a Text Message. In this special episode, we bring you memorials to beloveds who have crossed over the veil ahead of us. Wakil and Annalouiza share memorial tributes to Wakil's Grandpa Herbert and Annalouiza's sister Vivian. We'll also hear from Jane Ellen Nickell whom we interviewed in our last episode who shares the story of her mother's e…
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Meet Iris Van Nespen, a Belgian emergency room physician turned life coach. She's on a mission to help women, and people in general, reclaim their joy and self-acceptance. Iris emphasizes the importance of recognizing one's own beauty, believing that it leads to a more fulfilling life and, ultimately, contributes to world peace. Iris delves into th…
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Send us a Text Message. Jane Ellen Nickell is enjoying retirement, after serving 16 years as Chaplain of Allegheny College, which followed a career in performing arts management and marketing. A native of West Virginia, she currently lives in Meadville, Pennsylvania, with two feline companions. In retirement, she keeps busy gardening, cooking, doin…
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My guest this week is Deborah Grassman and for 30 years, she served as a hospice nurse practitioner within the Department of Veterans Affairs. While trained as a psychiatric nurse practitioner, her focus shifted towards hospice care, where she unearthed a unique revelation about trauma's transformation at life's end, an aspect not formally identifi…
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Discover a radical new perspective on mental wellness as Dr. Fred Moss, the "Un-Doctor," joins us for a fascinating journey beyond the bounds of traditional psychiatry. Get ready to challenge everything you thought you knew about mental health as Dr. Moss shares his approach to undiagnosing, unmedicating, and unlocking the true potential within our…
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Meet Brenda, a Londoner who, at 59, has dedicated most of her career to the charity sector, specifically working with Friends of the Earth, an environmental lobbying organization. Around four or five years ago, Brenda faced a challenging period at work, compounded by issues with her eye health and the onset of menopause. This stress took a toll on …
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Send us a Text Message. In this episode we speak with Yanna Hanson. Yanna is a death doula and currently specializes as a volunteer with end-of-life Washington. Helping terminal patients navigate the medical aid in dying process. She is often present when they take the life-ending medications. Yana also helps educate clients about another life-endi…
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In the 1970s, Elizabeth Kubler Ross and Dame Cicely Saunders revolutionized our approach to death. While Kubler Ross emphasized the neglect of the dying in America, Saunders proposed a novel philosophy with her Hospice program. The focus shifted from mere medical treatment to a holistic approach of embracing life during the dying process. Our guest…
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Embark on a journey to the heart of empathic conflict resolution with Ali Miller, a renowned nonviolent communication coach who's here to transform the way we perceive and navigate disputes. Imagine a world where communication is not a battlefield but a bridge towards understanding and connection—a paradigm shift from confrontation to compassion. I…
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My guests today are Kathleen McGee, Elder Care Coordinator and Director of Care Coordination at Rothkoff Law Group and Chelsea Duckers, one of the care coordinators at Rothkoff Law Group. In an ideal world, we'd all proactively plan for future challenges, especially as our needs change with age. Reality often sees us facing issues reactively. Rothk…
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Send us a Text Message. Ms. Margaret Johnson. Ms. Margaret is currently 101 years old. When's your birthday? So she just turned 101. Margaret has lived a very rich and varied life. She has been a homemaker, a wife, and a mother to two children. She lived all over the country due to her husband's career as a geologist. She went back to school at the…
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In this episode, my guest is Narinder Bazen, founder of the Nine Keys Death Midwifery Apprenticeship. In her twenties as a Kundalini yoga and meditation teacher, Narinder found herself officiating weddings, blessing babies, and attending deaths within her community. Embracing her mystic roots, she began offering death care, grief care, and trauma c…
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Send us a Text Message. Patty Bueno is a certified grief counselor, dying consciously teacher, and creator of the Amorté podcast on death and grief education. She's currently training to become a somatic experiencing facilitator. Having accompanied three of her grandparents and later her mother through their dying process as a primary caregiver was…
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Send us a Text Message. “If you cultivate community in this life, you will pass into community.” In this episode we spend time with our dear friend and teacher, Rev. John Mabry. We met him when we were both seminary students in Berkeley, CA and have remained close. Reverend Dr. John Mabry is a United Church of Christ pastor and a spiritual director…
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In this end-of-2023 episode, my husband Stephen Wilson takes on the role of interviewer, leading a conversation where we explore our intertwined paths and how they've led us to appreciate life's impermanence. Drawing parallels with our careers in food service, we find beauty in life's temporary nature. The conversation turns personal as we discuss …
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Send us a Text Message. Welcome to Episode 3! Today we welcome Reverend Bodhi Be ‘Warrior of the heart, protector of the sacred’. Reverend Bodhi Be is an ordained interfaith minister and teacher in the Sufi lineage of Samuel Lewis and Hazrat Inayat Khan. He is the founder and executive director of Doorway Into Light, a nonprofit organization on Mau…
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Patricia Ayers is the Director of Clinical Services at Coras Wellness & Behavioral Health and she spent several years working for hospice and home care agencies. Eventually, she found herself teaching hospice at Stockton University for nine years, a role that she thoroughly enjoyed. In this episode we talk about how people misunderstand hospice, th…
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In today's episode my guest is Nancy Alterman, a therapist with a focus on helping adults navigate relationship challenges. Nancy believes that nothing matters more in life than our relationships. She brings a wealth of experience, with over 35 years dedicated to families facing medical crisis. Nancy emphasizes the immediate impact of clear objecti…
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Send us a Text Message. In this episode we are blessed and honored to spend time with our friend Rev Ayah Shakur Sevigny. He is currently working as a palliative care chaplain at a large hospital in Seattle, and spent 20 years as a hospice chaplain. He shares with us his wisdom and insights about the work of an end of life caregiver. He mentioned t…
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In this podcast episode, we talk with Deb Driscoll, an author, spiritual teacher, and speaker, whose life has been a testament to the transformative power hidden within profound loss. Deb's story is about the heart-breaking tragedy of losing her 10-year-old son, Sage, a pivotal moment that shattered her world and set her on an unexpected path of he…
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In this episode, I have a conversation with Eryn Johnson, a Philadelphia-based writer and facilitator, about her journey from a religious upbringing to her current spiritual beliefs. Eryn, whose work has graced publications like Well + Good, Insider, and Tilted House Magazine, brings a unique perspective to her exploration of queerness, mental heal…
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Send us a Text Message. In this first episode of our End of Life Conversations podcast, Rev. Annalouiza Armendariz, and Rev. Wakil David Matthews share their own stories and talk about their passion for normalizing the conversations around death and dying. In future podcasts, we'll share people’s experiences with the end of life. We have reached ou…
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Jeanette Sealy, a dedicated Yoga Therapist, loving mother of four, and a veteran of the United States Air Force, is on a mission to bring healing and transformation to people's lives. Her profound personal journey through complex trauma has given her a deep understanding of the healing potential of Yoga and Ayurveda. Since 1993, she has been unwave…
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Our guest, Sam Ruth, originally from Michigan but now in Colorado, shares her journey as a psychologist, author, and speaker. She met her husband in Michigan at 24, and they reconnected later but tragically, he passed away in Colorado at 46, just four years later. Sam turned to nature and the beauty of Colorado to heal. Sam's deep connection to spi…
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This week, we're deviating from our usual guest interviews due to a hectic week. Sometimes, life throws unexpected challenges our way. One such challenge happened to me recently when my minivan was struck by a drunk driver. It could have been much worse, but we're grateful that no one was hurt. This incident reaffirmed my deep appreciation for life…
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In this podcast episode, I'm joined by Tony Lynch, the founder of The Global Grief Network, a worldwide community of grief workers, mental health practitioners, and coaches. This community is all about raising awareness, sharing knowledge, and providing support to each other. During our conversation, Tony shares his personal journey of spiritual gr…
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