Incorporating Testers with Every Development Phase with Angie Jones

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Today Angie Jones, a master inventor and automated testing engineer, speaks with us about what a master inventor is and what it took to receive that title, what testing automation is, having parallel between testers and developers, what developers can be doing to build more testable apps, and finally how modern web development has complicated automated testing.

Angie talks about some common problems when it comes to testing. The test team is often separate from the developer team, and it leads to communication problems. Testers should be working in parallel with the dev team to ensure that from the get-go they are writing a testable app!

Another common problem is that 100% test coverage gets pushed. However, that's the wrong idea. Automated testing is expensive to implement, so Angie talks about how she figures out what'll give the most "bang for your buck" when deciding what tests get automated.

Apps aren't as simple as they used to be, and thicker client-side UIs have made it much harder to implement automated tests. Automated Engineer is a fully fledged development position requiring skill across platforms, which is why Angie says that developers shouldn't be leading automated testing. There is a lot that automated testers have to do and separate skills that they need to develop. There's only so much a person can keep up on at once.

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Transcript

"Incorporating Testers with Every Development Phase with Angie Jones" Transcript

Resources:

• Level up: playing the automation game
• Bartle taxonomy of player types
• Why Developers Should Not Lead Your Automation Efforts
• Which Tests Should We Automate

Angie Jones:

• Twitter
• Github
• Website
• YouTube

Joel Hooks

• Twitter
• Website