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Outside the Room is an engaging, lively podcast and virtual show, hosted by massage industry veteran CG Funk, Massage Heights Senior Vice President of Culture, and Industry Relations. It’s the first-ever podcast and virtual show for massage therapists, and estheticians designed to honor these amazing hands-on healers and highlight the importance of careers in massage, beauty, and wellness.Each 30-minute episode will feature a regular cadence of special guests and highlight industry news, res ...
Engaging conversations with Til Luchau and Whitney Lowe, on key topics in manual and movement therapy: bodywork, massage therapy, structural integration, chiropractic, myofascial and myotherapy, orthopedic, sports massage, physical therapy, osteopathy, yoga, strength and conditioning, and allied professions.
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Secrets to Becoming a Well Being with Mia Kyricos
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Our conversation with the Founder and President of Kyricos and Associates, LLC, Mia Kyricos continues. Mia shares her personal self-care favorites as well as a powerful message for therapists! What are your takeaways from this episode? Share them with us on social media using #OutsideTheRoom. 00:00 | ☀️ Opening Chi 00:10 | CG Reintroduces Mia Kyric…
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Leading with Love with Mia Kyricos | 'Outside the Room'
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This episode features the Founder and President of Kyricos and Associates, LLC, Mia Kyricos. Mia is a Global Thought Leader in Wellness and Wellbeing. Named 2019’s Global Leading Woman in Wellness by the Global Wellness Summit, Mia embodies the mission of “simply aspires to help people live well and to love more.” This episode reminds us to love to…
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Aging Gracefully, Breathing Well, and Long COVID Recovery (with Jan Sultan)
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Til talks with Jan Sultan (one of first Rolfers trained by Ida Rolf to teach her work), about his life and work; about aging well; and about his take-aways from his ongoing COVID recovery process. Get the full transcript at Til or Whitney's sites: Whitney Lowe’s online Clinical & Orthopedic Massage Courses Til Luchau’s courses at Advanced-Trainings…
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Amazing Techniques for Pain Relief with James Waslaski
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The excitement continues with the CEO of the Center for Pain Management James Waslaski. He returns this episode to feature our first in-studio demonstration. Join the conversation on social media using #OutsideTheRoom. 00:00 | ☀️ Opening Chi 00:09 | CG Re-introduces James Waslaski 00:40 | An Evaluation by James Waslaski 02:22 | Warming the Tissue f…
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Beyond ”It Depends:” Oncology Massage (with Janet Penny, Rebecca Sturgeon, and Loretta Luchau)
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Til gets personal as he discusses bodywork with people living with cancer, with Janet Penny and Rebecca Sturgeon, the authors of “Oncology Massage: An Integrative Approach to Cancer Care.” They’re joined by Til’s wife Loretta Carridan Luchau, a bodyworker and therapist who has been living with cancer for many years. Watch the video (NEW!) and get t…
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Center For Pain Management CEO James Waslaski
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This episode features our first in-studio guest, CEO of the Center for Pain Management James Waslaski. James Waslaski has over 30 years of expertise in manual therapy and teaches over 45 live seminars each year all over the world. He is a published author and renowned international lecturer. This episode features interesting stories, insights, and …
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Women Leaders in Massage Therapy (with CG Funk, Ruth Werner, and Irene Diamond)
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Women account for about 85 percent of Massage Therapists in the US. However, there isn't always a corresponding representation of women as CE providers, conference headliners, or in other roles of visible leadership. Whitney and Til explore this phenomenon in discussions with three women leaders, as a way to acknowledge just a few of the many women…
This episode's guest is "Global Wellness Day" founder Belgin Aksoy. Aksoy has dedicated her life to creating a physically, mentally, and spiritually better world for everyone. This episode features entertaining stories and inspirational anecdotes. Watch this episode, and you will learn something new. Global Wellness Day is June 11, 2022. Visit Glob…
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The Handspring Story (with Andrew Stevenson and Mary Law)
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It’s no exaggeration to say that in its ten years of existence, Handspring Publishing has had a profound impact on the bodywork and movement therapy fields. Til and Whitney talk with two of Handspring's founders about some very big recent news, and about their unique vision of a place where both long-established authors (such as Robert Schleip, Leo…
With 35 years of experience, this episode's guest is none other than industry icon Whitney Lowe. Watch as they talk about Whitney Lowe's beginnings, mind-body connection and industry trailblazer Benny Vaughn. Join the conversation on social media using #OutsideTheRoom! 00:00 | ☀️ Opening Chi 00:09 | CG Introduces the Episode 01:00 | CG Introduces W…
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Turnabout is Fair Play: Our Favorite Perspective Reversals
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People change their minds--sometimes, radically. Learning, improving, refining, all involve changing how we saw things before. But is there a cost? And what makes changing our views such a challenge? Whitney and Til compare notes about how their perspectives have taken a 180° from how they used to think, and, about how that's played out.Get the ful…
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Educational Innovations (with Anne Williams and Eric Brown)
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Whitney talks with Anne Williams and Eric Brown about innovations in education. They delve into these important topics: such as:-Early explorations of online education, podcasting, and the World Massage Conference-Why instructional design and educational theory matter in education?-New frontiers in the publishing of digital textbooks…and much more.…
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Dr. Tiffany Field on the Healing Power of Touch
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This episode continues the conversation between host CG Funk and research pioneer Dr. Tiffany Field. Listen as host and guest touch on the pandemic and its effects on touch, self-care, and massage therapists. Join the conversation on social media using #OutsideTheRoom! 00:00 | ☀️ Opening Chi 00:08 | CG Introduces the Episodes 00:47 | CG Recaps Prev…
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Massage Therapy Research (with Niki Munk)
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Whitney talks with Niki Munk about massage therapy research. They delve into these important topics: such as:-What are levels of evidence and why does this matter?-Why should massage therapists care about research?-How to get involved with research-Challenges of massage education existing outside traditional academic models…and much more.Get the fu…
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Massage Therapy Research Pioneer Dr. Tiffany Fields and Chair and Founder of the Massage Makes Me Happy Initiative Lynda Solien Wolfe
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This episode features guests Dr. Tiffany Field, from the Touch Research Institute at the University of Miami School of Medicine, and Lynda Solien Wolfe, Chair and Founder of the Massage Makes Me Happy Initiative. Listen as host CG Funk discussed everything from the benefits of moving the skin to Massage Makes Me Happy and the official Global Massag…
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Physical Therapy Assisting and Massage (with Matt Gavzy)
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Whitney talks with massage therapist and physical therapy assistant Matt Gavzy about working in a team practice with other professionals, and about integrating massage therapy with physical therapy approaches. Get the full transcript at Til or Whitney's sites! Whitney Lowe’s online Clinical & Orthopedic Massage Courses Til Luchau’s courses at Advan…
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Tara Grodjesk on Self-Care for Hands-On Healers
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Tara Spa Therapy founder, Tara Grodjesk, continues her conversation with host CG Funk. Watch as they talk about self-care for hands-on healers and more. Join the conversation on social media using #OutsideTheRoom! 00:00 | ☀️ Opening Chi 00:10 | CG Introduces Herself 00:15 | CG Reintroduces Tara Grodjesk 01:05 | Tara Talks Presence 05:35 | Tara Shar…
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What Influenced You? (with Whitney Lowe and Til Luchau)
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Whitney and Til compare notes about the major influences on their own careers, and along the way discuss topics such as:-The development of massage and bodywork education and practice -Their Esalen Institute and Emory University crossroads-The role of lineage, teacher personality, and standards-The evolution of online learning-Mentors and mentoring…
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Visionary Leader and Pioneer Tara Grodjesk on Wellness
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VP of Earthlite and founder of Tara Spa Therapy, this episode's guest is Tara Grodjesk. Tara has dedicated 40-years to wellness and bodywork, creating innovative body treatments. Tara has been a force her whole career. She was awarded the American Spas 2017 Visionary of the Year award for Women in Wellness as she has continued committing her career…
Til Luchau asks pioneering movement and bodywork teacher Judith Aston "Do you think being a woman ever held you back?" Then, they talk about what she thought of that question. Get the full transcript, and the answer to Judith's 9-dot puzzle, at Til or Whitney's sites! Whitney Lowe’s online Clinical & Orthopedic Massage Courses Til Luchau’s courses …
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Trailblazer Benny Vaughn on Rising Above pt. 2
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About This Episode: CG Funk and Benny Vaughn continue their conversation. Listen as Benny shares with CG his childhood and growing up in the South and how he wove it into his success despite his challenges as a child. 00:00 | ☀️ Opening Chi 00:15 | CG Introduces Benny Vaughn 01:32 | Benny Vaughn's Favorite Olympic Games 05:17 | Benny Vaughn's Philo…
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57: A Fine Irish Visit (with Aubrey Gowing)
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Whitney Lowe and Til Luchau catch up with Aubrey Gowing about the practice of massage and bodywork in Ireland. Aubrey is Senior Instructor at the Holistic College Dublin and past President of the Irish Massage Therapists Association.Plus: Check out the FREE 'Rib Issues' Intro Jan 26, and join the live course with Til Luchau until Feb 9. Get the ful…
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Trailblazer Benny Vaughn on Massage, the Olympics, and more
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Named by Massage Magazine as one of the most influential massage therapists in the last 100 years, Benny Vaughn is the perfect inaugural guest for 'Outside the Room.' Benny has been trailblazing his entire life, from his athletic scholarship to the University of Florida to his participation at five Olympic Games and much more. He has set the standa…
Til Luchau and Whitney Lowe talk through their hands-on approaches to rib pain, ribcage restrictions, and related breathing issues. Check out the free 'Rib Issues' Intro Jan 26 '22, and download the technique handout at https://bit.ly/rib-handout-56 Get the handout and full transcript at Til or Whitney's sites! Whitney Lowe’s Online Clinical & Orth…
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55: What Is Success? (with Diane Matkowski)
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Til Luchau and Whitney Lowe get personal with Diane Matkowski (The Massage Mentor) about what "success" means to each of them, and preview their upcoming online collaborative, the "Success is an Inside Job" training (learn more at bit.ly/thinking-success). Get the full transcript) at Til or Whitney's sites! Whitney Lowe’s Online Clinical & Orthoped…
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54: Season Two Highlights - Best of the Thinking Practitioner Podcast
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Whitney Lowe and Til Luchau review highlights and key take-aways from their busy second season of interviews, conversations, and inquiries into the thinking behind effective hands-on work. The Ten Most-Downloaded Episodes from Season Two: 45: Fascia in Sport & Movement (with Robert Schleip)38: Frozen Shoulder & Adhesive Capsulitis: Updating our App…
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53: Fascia: A Deep Dive (with Dr. Antonio Stecco)
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Til and Whitney speak with fascial researcher, anatomist, and manual therapy teacher Antonio Stecco MD PhD about his research in to fascial properties, pain, and the effects of hands-on work. Get the full transcript at Til or Whitney's sites! Resources discussed in this episode: Dr Stecco’s research and publications (NYU) FM app on the Apple Store …
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52: Orthopedic Special Tests (with Whitney Lowe)
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Til interviews Whitney about his use of Orthopedic Special Tests. Topics include: The promise and the reality of special tests Pros, cons, and controversies When to use them, when not to. Get the full transcript at Til or Whitney's sites! Resources discussed in this episode: Lowe, Whitney. “Suggested Variations on Standard Carpal Tunnel Syndrome As…
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51: Neuroinflammation (with Todd Hargrove)
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Til & Whitney talk with Todd Hargrove of the Better Movement blog and podcast about neuroinflammation and its role in pain and health. Topics include: What is neuroinflammation, and how is it relevant to hands-on work? How does the concept of the "neuro-immune system" change things? What are our levers for helping with neuroinflammatory conditions?…
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50: A View Across The Border (with Jamie Johnston & Eric Purves)
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Whitney interviews Jamie Johnston and Eric Purves Topics include: How does massage education differ in the U.S. and Canada How have things changed with the adoption of educational competencies for MTs in British Columbia Should we keep performing special orthopedic tests if they aren't considered as accurate? Get the full transcript at Til or Whitn…
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49: Interoception Is The Key, Like It Or Not (with Til Luchau)
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Whitney interviews Til about his upcoming “Three Questions About Interoception” article in Massage & Bodywork magazine. Topics include: What is interoception, and why should I care? Is interoception our profession’s “mindfulness?” How can I actually use interoception with my clients? Get the full transcript at Til or Whitney's sites! Resources disc…
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48: Psoas Work: Is it Safe? Is it Necessary? (Hip Jam rebroadcast)
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In honor of the upcoming Hip Jam, Whitney and Til discuss the controversies, disagreements, considerations, and their own views on the infamous psoas muscle in manual therapy and massage in this "Greatest Hits" rebroadcast of ep25. Download the handout with detailed episode notes, techniques and tests, and a special chapter from Til’s book from htt…
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47: Getting Over Over-Pronation (Ankle & Foot Function)
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In celebration of Til's upcoming "Leg Knee & Foot" online course, he and Whitney geek out on conditions, anatomy, function, and biomechanics of the ankle and foot. Topics include: How the structure of the foot/ankle complex determines function Are we over over-pronation yet? Plantar fasciitis/fasciosis, bunions, hammertoes, and other things you wou…
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46: To ITB, or Not To ITB? (Iliotibial Band Controversies, Conditions, and Approaches)
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Whitney and Til unfold the controversies, compare thoughts, and share approaches for working with the iliotibial band. Download the free handout! Topics include: Little-known facts, well-known myths, and over-heated controversies about the ITB, When and why would (or wouldn’t) we work, roll, or massage the ITB (aka the iliotibial tract or fascia la…
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45: Fascia in Sport & Movement (with Robert Schleip)
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Til Luchau & Whitney Lowe talk with researcher and Robert Schleip about fascia, movement, and research updates in the newly released second edition of Fascia in Sport and Movement, co-edited by Jan Wilke. Topics include: Should bodywork cost half of what movement therapy costs? {joke!} Is the issue fascial stiffness, or fascial shearing? What does …
Whitney talks to Doug Nelson about the challenges and learning experiences of a great massage career spanning over four decades. Topics include: What keeps you going after all this time? What are some of the most fascinating lessons your clients have provided for you? How do we all learn to be humble in the face of our own fallibility in the clinic…
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43: Trauma, MDMA Psychotherapy, and the Body (with Marcela Ot'alora G.)
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Til Luchau talks about trauma, psychedelic psychotherapy, and the body, with Marcela Ot'alora G., the principal investigator in a very promising FDA-approved study into MDMA-assisted therapy for PTSD. Topics include: How does trauma relate to bodywork, and how does MDMA therapy help with trauma? How is psychedelic therapy different from just taking…
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42: Scars and Scar Tissue (with Cathy Ryan)
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Til and Whitney talk to Cathy Ryan RMT about her book 'Traumatic Scar Tissue Management: Massage Therapy Principles, Practice and Protocols,' co-authored with Nancy Keenan Smith. Topics include: How has fascial research informed our understanding of scars? Is it about the "fuzz," or the fluids? Erasing scars, once and for all. (Not really.) Get the…
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41: Going For It: The Massage Mentor (with Diane Matkowski)
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Whitney and Til talk to Diane Matkowski (a.k.a. the Massage Mentor) to find out what gave her the chutzpah to ask 10 of her favorite massage and bodywork teachers to teach in her first online event, what it was like when nearly 600 people showed up, and what she's working on next. Topics include: There are a lot of male teachers in our field. Where…
Til and Whitney talk to Healwell’s Cal Cates about how their work with death and dying brought perspective and presence to their work as a massage therapist; and to living itself. Topics include: How is “being a massage therapist in the modern world a total setup”? What do we say when our clients just want results? How do our personal experiences i…
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39: Are You Thinking Critically? (with Ruth Werner)
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How often do we think about the assumptions that inform our decisions? Til Luchau talks to writer Ruth Werner about her recent work on critical thinking skills, steps, and stages. Topics include: What is the big deal about critical thinking? What are the signs that I might not be thinking critically? Is intuition the opposite of critical thinking? …
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38: Frozen Shoulder & Adhesive Capsulitis: Updating our Approach
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Whitney Lowe & Til Luchau give a crash course on frozen shoulder/adhesive capsulitis, discussing recent research and comparing their respective views and strategies. Download the free handout with detailed episode notes, techniques and tests, and join them at the upcoming Shoulder Jam event via Whitney or Til’s sign-up link. Episode topics include:…
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37: Shoulder Pain, Impingement, & Rotator Cuff Issues: The Most Common of Problems
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Til Luchau and Whitney Lowe share their ideas, strategies, techniques, and tests for better results with the most common type of shoulder condition, subacromial pain syndrome (SAPS) and its myriad presentations, including rotator cuff pain, etc. Download the handout with detailed episode notes, techniques and tests from http://a-t.tv/ttp-saps/ Epis…
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36: Research and Education (with Robin Anderson)
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Whitney Lowe talks with Robin Anderson about her new role as president of the Massage Therapy Foundation and how research plays an important role in our field. They also dive deep into some issues around curriculum design and the crucial importance of developing solid educational programs to ensure the future success of our field. Get the full tran…
Til Luchau and Whitney Lowe share their top resources for information and inspiration, both professionally and personally, letting us in on everything from their favorite podcasts, playlists, books, and apps, to how they recharge and find meaning in their work and in their lives. Get the full transcript at Til or Whitney's sites! Resources and refe…
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34: Thoracic Outlet Syndrome: What You Didn’t Know
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Whitney Lowe and Til Luchau share trivia, tips, tests, and techniques for working with thoracic outlet syndrome (TOS), including some cool self-care methods for you and your clients. Find out why TOS is “one of the most controversial topics in musculoskeletal medicine,” and how Til and Whitney actually work with TOS symptoms in practice. Download t…
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33: Dealing With Adversity (with Drew Freedman)
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Clinician and educator Drew Freedman talks about navigating many challenges of managing a busy clinic in the heart of Boston. The clinic was severely impacted by the Boston Marathon bombing and then again this past year during the Covid challenge. We discuss how to face adversity and how to continue looking forward and not let these challenges drag…
Art Riggs was one of the first Certified Rolfers[tm] to publish a book about "advanced" techniques. His textbook (Deep Tissue Massage) was adopted by massage therapy programs worldwide, and as a result, his teaching and style has influenced tens of thousands massage and manual therapists in the decades since. Art talks with Til Luchau about his wor…
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31: Headaches of Another Kind: Cervicogenic Headaches
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What are cervicogenic headaches? Are they even a thing, and if so, why are they particularly amenable to manual therapy and massage? Til Luchau and Whitney Lowe discuss these questions, and share some self-care tips for you and your clients. Download the handout with detailed episode notes, techniques and tests from http://a-t.tv/ttp-cgh/ Episode t…
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30: Excuses, Excuses: Our Favorite Reasons Not To ________
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What makes taking care of ourselves so hard? Til Luchau and Whitney Lowe dissect the difficulties, and share their favorite excuses for not putting their own care first. Episode topics include: The five key self-care behaviors; The date we’re most likely to give up on our resolutions; Getting “internal bipartisanship” around your own self-care init…
