Join Jerry Jones, Founder and CEO of Jerry Jones Direct, the nation's premier dental marketing and coaching company, as he interviews Guests inside and outside the dental space to find out what's working now to grow dental practices - to include marketing, practice management and more! Tune in and leverage Jerry's 15+ years of dental practice ownership and over 20 years of dental advertising experience to grow YOUR practice, now!
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Welcome to ”Beyond the Game: Wealth Mastery for Athletes,” your ultimate playbook for financial growth, both on and off the field. Whether you’re in the locker room or enjoying retirement, our podcast equips professional athletes, both active and retired, with the strategies, insights, and inspirations to create and maintain long-term wealth. We’re forging a community where athletes can connect, engage, and learn from each other’s experiences. Every week, we bring you in-depth conversations ...
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E20: Winston Justice Shares His Journey from NFL to Finance
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Join Kris Benson and Alec Ogletree as they interview former NFL offensive tackle Winston Justice who opens up about his journey from an 8-year playing career to financial advising. Winston discusses lessons from his NFL days, entrepreneurial experiences starting a coffee shop, and feeling unprepared transitioning to finance. Winston also shares adv…
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E19: Beyond the Field: The Franchising Experiences of Edwin Jackson and Brandon Beachy
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In this episode, Kris Benson and Alec Ogletree are joined by former MLB pitchers Edwin Jackson and Brandon Beachy where they dish out some major league advice. With over 20 seasons of playing ball between them, EJ and Beachy share their experiences transitioning to the business world of franchising after hanging up their cleats. They've got some gr…
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E18: Going Beyond the Field: Learning from a Longtime NFL Agent
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Are you ready for an all-access pass into the high-stakes world of NFL player representation? This latest episode of Beyond the Game gives you a seat at the table with veteran agent David Canter. A 29-year NFL agent veteran, David has built superstar careers and negotiated contracts worth hundreds of millions. Listen in as he shares recruiting stra…
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E17: Joe Holland Shares His Journey from NFL Player to Dental Practice Owner
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After his NFL dreams were dashed by injury, former Purdue football star Joe Holland chose to channel his competitive spirit into building a thriving dental practice. In this episode, Joe opens up about his pivot from medicine to dentistry in pursuit of practice ownership and learning to lead employees with no business experience. Now the owner of m…
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E16: Beyond Football: Cliff Avril's Journey from NFL Star to Real Estate Investor
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Get your game plan from a true Beyond the Game master! Today, Kris Benson and Alec Ogletree sit down with former NFL star Cliff Avril to discuss his journey from football to real estate investing. Over the course of his career, Cliff learned valuable lessons about financial literacy, accountability, and team building - skills he now applies to grow…
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E15: From Pro Sports to Franchise Ownership with Brandon Beachy
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From the pitcher's mound to the boardroom - don't miss Brandon Beachy's story of resilience and reinvention on this latest episode! Kris Benson and Alec Ogletree sit down with former MLB pitcher Brandon Beachy to discuss his journey from professional baseball to franchise business owner. After nearly a decade at baseball's highest level, multiple i…
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E14: Step Up to the Plate: Navigating Finances from The Baseball Diamond to Boardroom with Jacob Turner
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Dig this: A Sports Illustrated article reported that 78% of NFL players become broke within 3 years of exiting the league. In today’s episode, Kris Benson and Alec Ogletree sit down with former MLB pitcher Jacob Turner, who shares his playbook for financial mastery. Jacob's nine-year MLB career across the majors has given him a wealth of experience…
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E13: What we have learned: Lessons from our First 10 Episodes
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With over a decade of NFL experience, Alec is uniquely positioned to understand the mental, physical, and financial challenges faced by professional athletes. Kris, with his experience in the world of private equity real estate has a bunch to offer! In this special reflection episode of Beyond the Game, they re-examine pivotal moments from past epi…
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E12: Beyond Football: An NFL Vet's Journey in Insurance and Financial Planning
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This week, Kris Benson and Alec Ogletree chat with former Cincinnati Bengals offensive lineman Clint Boling to share his journey from the NFL to a career in insurance. Over an eight-year career spent entirely with the Bengals, Clint learned valuable lessons about financial planning, investing, and creating opportunities for his post-football life. …
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E11: Financial Wisdom from a Former Pro Athlete Craig Brown
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In this episode, Alec Ogletree and Kris Benson chat with Craig Brown, a partner at NKSFB, one of the largest business management firms in the world. They discuss important topics like understanding cash flow vs cash burn, investing for the long term, and more. You don't have to be an athlete to benefit either - the wisdom applies to anyone! Craig i…
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E10: Learning Financial Strategies from 11-Year NBA Vet Anthony Tolliver
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In this episode of Beyond the Game, Kris Benson and Alec Ogletree dive into a wide-ranging conversation with 11-year NBA veteran Anthony Tolliver about his journey to the NBA, managing expectations both on and off the court, and the financial strategies he employed during his playing career and beyond. Here are some power takeaways from today’s con…
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E09: Undeniable: Rennie Curran’s Story of Resilience, Faith, and Success On and Off the Field
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Kris Benson and Alec Ogletree welcome former NFL linebacker Rennie Curran this week. After a standout college career at the University of Georgia where he led the SEC in tackles, Rennie's NFL journey was anything but easy as he faced constant doubts about his size and struggled to stick with teams. However, through it all, he found the motivation t…
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E08: Wildcat to Wealth Manager: Ronnie Brown’s Path After the NFL
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This week, Kris Benson and Alec Ogletree sit down with NFL legend Ronnie Brown to discuss his incredible journey from pioneering the "Wildcat" formation in the league to reinventing himself as a financial advisor after retiring from football. Here are some power takeaways from today’s conversation: [00:00] Introduction [06:30] How the Wildcat offen…
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E07: Changing Uniforms, Changing Careers: Matt Capps on Transitioning From Pro Athlete to Businessman
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Kris Benson and Alec Ogletree sit down with former MLB pitcher Matt Capps for a candid conversation about transitioning to life after professional sports. Over the course of his seven-year MLB career, Matt played for the Pittsburgh Pirates, Minnesota Twins, and Cleveland Indians before retiring in 2016. In this episode, Matt shares lessons learned …
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E06: Dominique Easley’s Journey to Financial Mastery
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Beyond The Game Wealth Mastery welcomes former NFL defensive lineman Dominique Easley as this week's guest. Over his five year NFL career, Dominique played for the New England Patriots and Los Angeles Rams, winning a Super Bowl in 2015. Since retiring from professional football, Dominique has dedicated his efforts to real estate investing. He curre…
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E05: Building a Successful Business in Sports Training with Coach Lily Abdelmalek
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Discover how to leverage your time in sports to create opportunities for future growth and unlock your full potential. In this episode, Kris Benson and Alec Ogletree sit down with speed and agility coach Lily Abdelmalek to discuss her journey building her own training business, DSA Training. Lily shares how she got her start training some of the bi…
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E04: From Practice Squad to Property Flips: Mack Brown’s Path to Financial Success
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In this episode Kris Benson and Alec Ogletree chat with former NFL player turned real estate investor Mack Brown. Mack spent five years in the NFL, playing for the Washington Redskins and Oakland Raiders. After his NFL career, he pursued real estate investing by flipping houses. He has since gone back to school to earn his MBA and is now working to…
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E03: Mastering Wealth Creation: An Interview with Georgia Legend Kevin Minter
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In this episode, Kris Benson and Alec Ogletree sit down with Kevin Minter, a nine-year NFL veteran who won a Super Bowl with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Kevin understands both the sacrifices of a professional athletic career and the importance of planning for life after sports. Kevin provides valuable lessons for professional athletes on building fin…
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E02: From the Field to Real Estate: NFL Vet Andrew Adams on His Wealth Journey
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What have you done to set yourself up for the future beyond the game? In this episode, we are joined by Andrew Adams, a seasoned NFL safety with 7 years of experience. Tune in as we delve into three key topics: Andrew's initial foray into real estate, the invaluable lessons he gleaned from his first NFL game check regarding taxes, and the amusing r…
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E01: How Tyrell Adams Built an Empire Off the Field After Being Cut 14 Times
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While the average salary in the United States is less than $60,000 per year, even practice squad players in the NFL earn around $150,000 per year, well above the average income. Despite the seemingly large paychecks, it's crucial for players to prepare for life after sports, considering the short-lived nature of sports careers. In today's episode, …
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Beyond the Game: Wealth Mastery for Athletes
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Welcome to "Beyond the Game: Wealth Mastery for Athletes," your ultimate playbook for financial growth, both on and off the field. Whether you're in the locker room or enjoying retirement, our podcast equips professional athletes, both active and retired, with the strategies, insights, and inspirations to create and maintain long-term wealth.…
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This month I interview brilliant marketer and orthodontist, Dr. John Meis; our discussion centers around optimizing growth. Dr. John is with the Team Training Institute and just published a new book. Take a listen as we dive into how he began in a 2 operatory practice during one of the worst US recessions the (the Farm Recession in the late 80’s) t…
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Episode #71: Jerry interviews attorney Ben Glass on intentional success
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This month I interview a brilliant attorney, Mr. Ben Glass. Mr. Glass just turned 60; he’s got decades of business and marketing know-how. Take a listen as we discuss “A ‘Legal Approach’ to Intentional Success in Business & Marketing!” The topics we cover are not talked about enough in any school. Just a few of the topics we discuss are: Permission…
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Episode #70: Jerry Interviews Chris Griffin
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In this episode of the Jerry Jones Direct Radio Show, Jerry and Chris Griffin discuss the forces shaping the future of dentistry as outlined in Jerry’s publication, “The State of Dentistry® 2019,” which was recently released. To learn more and get a free copy, visit: http://thestateofdentistry.comBy THE Jerry Jones
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Episode #69: Jerry Interviews Jesse Green
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This month is a bit different in that it is me on someone else’s “show.” Dr. Jesse Green has a podcast down in Australia. He is also an author of a book that should be every dentist’s required reading. Jesse and I discuss marketing and dentistry. Take a listen as I and Jesse discuss the trials and tribulations that all entrepreneurs go through. Jus…
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Episode #68: Jerry Interviews Michael Abernathy
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In this episode of the Jerry Jones Direct Radio Show, Jerry and Michael discuss the forces shaping the future of dentistry as outlined in Jerry’s publication, “The State of Dentistry® 2019,” which was recently released. To learn more and get a free copy, visit: http://thestateofdentistry.comBy THE Jerry Jones
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Episode #67: Jerry Interviews Dustin Burleson on how to increase patients
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This month I interview brilliant marketer and orthodontist, Dr. Dustin Burleson. Dr. Burleson is in Kansas City MO. He is an author, teacher, consultant, speaker and a repeat guest of Dentistry Confidential. Take a listen as we discuss some often overlooked ideas and how he took his dental practice “From Zero Patients to 12,000 in 10 Years!” Just a…
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Episode #66: Jerry interviews Practice Management Consultant, Lisa Mellick
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This month I interview Jerry Jones Direct’s very own in-office and remote practice management consultant, Ms. Lisa Mellick. Lisa has over 20 years of dental management and consulting experience, including years as an active office manager, surviving two different practice owners. Take a listen to this “57-minute Crash Course in Practice Management!…
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Episode #BONUS EPISODE: Jerry Interviews David Phelps on the "Plan B"
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Jerry Jones welcomes Dr. David Phelps to the podcast! David's a long-time friend of JJD and Jerry, personally, and operates Freedom Founders out of Dallas, TX, the "Plan B" company for dentists who're reaching the end of their careers. Join David and Jerry as they discuss some of the crazy changes taking place in dentistry and HOW to integrate them…
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Episode #71: Jerry Interviews Steve Parker on DSO's
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DSOs – Dental Support Organizations. Some love ‘em. Some hate ‘em. Some just don’t know what they think. No matter what your thoughts, without DSOs in dentistry, where would all the dental grads go to get real world jobs? Over 6,000 dental grads this year alone. 51% of them women. Simple, rather obvious questions for you Where are they supposed to …
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Episode #65: Ron Sheetz "How to Differentiate Your Practice"
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This month’s audio interview is with my friend Ron Sheetz about, “How to Differentiate Your Practice.” Ron and I have a long history. We spend the hour talking about the power of testimonials and story telling to communicate about and differentiate your practice. Just a few of the topics we discuss are: A Solo Doc’s First and Most Important Job Dif…
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Episode #64: Jerry interviews Matt Gillogly about knowing your demographic
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This month, I interview a long-time JJD friend, Matt Gillogly. Matt is an entrepreneur who has found a way to help men with ED. As you might imagine, selling a solution to ED can be problematic. Yet, no matter how uncomfortable it may be, it is a very real issue to many. Take notes as we discuss: “Selling Cures in Erectile Dysfunction & Dentistry!”…
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Episode #63: Old School Entrepreneurship with Jerry Jones and James Erickson
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This month’s interview features long-time entrepreneur and friend to Jerry Jones Direct (and me, personally), Mr. James Erickson. In this month’s audio, we examine “Retro/Old School Entrepreneurship!” James is the CEO and Founder of Stridebox, a monthly “box” company for runners, based in Bend, Oregon. James is also a Veteran (Marines!); I’m very p…
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Episode #62: Jerry Interviews Rodger Alan Friedman
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This month’s interview features the financial expertise of one of the top retirement professionals out there, Mr. Rodger Alan Friedman. Rodger shares with us, “Crucial Retirement Steps for Dentists to Take, Now!” Rodger is a premier financial planner; what we cover could well change your life. Retirement has become more complex than ever; just as y…
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Episode #61: Jerry Interviews Dr. Paul Cardon
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This month’s interview features Silver Level ClearPath Society® Member, Dr. Paul Cardon. We took a different approach this month as I ask Dr. Cardon a couple of question from you, our valued subscribers. We cover about “From 22 Years of Military Service to Success in Private Practice.” Paul moved to Jefferson City, Missouri after he retired from th…
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Episode #60: Jerry interviews Anissa Holmes - Mastering Social Media
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This month’s interview features Dr. Anissa Holmes. She is from the states but practices in Jamaica. On this month’s CD, Anissa gives me (and you!) a crash course on how we can best utilize social media. This month we talk about “Mastering Social Media for Dentists!” Mastering social media isn’t so much learning the best ways to get “liked.” Rather,…
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This month’s interview features Mr. Craig Cody, CPA. He was and is part of a long line of New York’s finest. After he retired from the police force of New York, he became a CPA. This month we talk about “Policing Taxes for Dentists!” Though he doesn’t work for only dentists (you’ll learn why that’s a good thing), Craig does focus on saving folks te…
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Episode 58-2 "Commonsense Dental Success!”
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In this interview, Howard runs the gamut (no surprise, right?) – and, it’s a good idea to listen to this interview a couple of times – we cover a lot and quickly. Just a few of the topics we discuss are: Why Corporate Dentistry is “Working” (and what you can learn from them)Cornerstone of success in any business: CS (hint: Customer S_____) Changing…
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Episode #58-1 "Commonsense Dental Success!”
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In this interview, Howard runs the gamut (no surprise, right?) – and, it’s a good idea to listen to this interview a couple of times – we cover a lot and quickly. Just a few of the topics we discuss are: Why Corporate Dentistry is “Working” (and what you can learn from them)Cornerstone of success in any business: CS (hint: Customer S_____) Changing…
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Episode #57 "Level 2: Advanced Practice Management!"
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Psychology is a fact of life; if we breathe our heads are exercising. If you have heard any entrepreneur or top salesman, their state of mind plays a most important role in their success. Dentistry is always changing and, the roadmap to success is constantly changing but, there are a few “landmarks” that remain consistent. Take notes as Brian walks…
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Episode #55: “Being Efficient and “Lean” in the Business of Dentistry
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Kim and I had a ball recording the latest audio interview on the Business of Dentistry, what we call Dentistry Confidential®, here at Jerry Jones Direct. In fact, for a full hour, we focused mostly on one specific area in your practice where you can CRUSH your overhead! If you're frustrated with your overhead and would like to see it drop, there ar…
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Episode #54: The Hidden Dangers Of Accepting Credit Cards
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This month’s interview features Mr. Bruce Feller and is about, "The Hidden Dangers of Accepting Credit Cards They Don’t Want You to Know!” Bruce is with Heartland Payment Solutions. In this month’s audio, he shares critical information you’ll want to know as credit card processing is a complex business riddled with freaks, geeks and charlatans look…
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Episode #53: Building Your Own Wealth Factory!
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This month’s interview features Mr. Garrett Gunderson and is about,"Building Your Own Wealth Factory!” Wealth is a multi-faceted term – there are many aspects of it, Garrett’s Wealth Factory helps folks determine their own personal meaning of wealth and a roadmap to achieve it. As a business owner this will be one of the most important discussions …
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Episode #52: Mastering Relationships - The Guideposts to Success
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This month’s interview with Mr. Dino Watt, is about,"The Interdependence of Personal and Professional Relationships." Join us as we take a less trodden (but sooo necessary) journey; using our relationships as guideposts to a successful business. We all use Systems of some kind or another to get to a desired, consistent result, and Dino gives us a f…
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Episode #51: Dental Insurance Strategies Every Dentist Must Know!
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This month’s interview features Dr. Charles Blair, "The Dental Insurance Expert: Key Strategies Every Dentist Must Know!” For better than 3 decades Charles has been making dental insurance more easily understood by dentists all over the country. Dental insurance has changed significantly over the years. So too has insurance coding. Be sure to take …
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Episode #50: Jerry Jones and Dr. David Phelps - Developing a Plan B for Dentists
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It’s a hard truth: The IRS, traditional financial institutions, and financial advisors often prey on dentists, doctors, and professional practice owners. If you could only hear the conversations behind closed doors, your blood would boil and you'd no doubt kick every one of them square in the arse, right outta your life... In this episode, you will…
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Episode 49: Advanced Business Strategies for Dentists
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This week's interview with Dr. Kevin Coughlin is titled “Advanced Business Strategies For Dentists.” Dr. Coughlin is not a Jack-of-all-trades in dentistry; he’s a King of all things Dentistry. He comes to us from Massachusetts. Kevin has 14 dental practices with more than 100,000 patients. I’m honored to have such an accomplished individual a part …
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Episode 48: Accounts Receivables Kung Fu
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This week’s interview is titled “Accounts Receivables Kung Fu.” Which, is quite fitting since our interviewee is Andy Cleveland. Andy is known as the A/R Ninja; he is literally an expert.* Every business owner should know the strategies discussed and shared in this audio, especially dental business owners! Just a few of the topics we discuss are: •…
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Episode 47: Differentiating Your Practice
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This week's episode features Jerry's friend, Ron Sheetz; they discuss "How to Differentiate Your Practice." Ron and Jerry have a long history. They spend the hour talking about the power of testimonials and story telling to communicate about and differentiate your practice. Just a few of the topics we discuss are: A Solo Doc's First and Most Import…
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Episode 46: Understanding the Numbers of Your Practice
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In this episode Jerry interviews CPA Jonathan VanHorn about: "Understanding the Numbers of Your Practice." Jerry met Jonathan through one of his previous Dentistry Confidential interviewees and owner of Ideal Practices, Jayme Amos. As always, this month's interview is designed to make you more comfortable with your Dental Business. Jonathan knows a…
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