Best Margaret Spence Podcasts (2024)

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E46: ERASING US - From the Margins to Mainstream War on Inclusion 47:23

1+ y ago47:23

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Beyond the Margins: Resisting the Deliberate Erasure of DEI and Inclusion In a world where the principles of diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) are under siege, it's crucial to illuminate the deliberate efforts to stifle these essential values. So brace yourself for an empowering and unfiltered conversation as our fearless host, Margaret Spence…

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E45: Talent Acquisition Under the Microscope 48:16

1+ y ago48:16

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Are you confident that your hiring process is inclusive and accessible to diverse candidates? Have you considered how candidates from diverse backgrounds perceive your hiring process? Join host Margaret Spence on this week's episode of Inclusion Unscripted as she discusses the DEI divide in talent acquisition with Melissa Dobbins, founder of Career…

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E44: Ageism Is Real: The Power Voices of Women Over 40 39:17

1+ y ago39:17

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Ageism is a real issue that affects many women, especially those over 40. Yet, despite the tremendous wisdom and experience that comes with age, society often fails to recognize women's value and contributions as they age. Whether it's in the workplace, media representation, or other aspects of daily life, ageism can make it challenging for women o…

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E43: The Facade of Empowering Women (of Color) 44:48

1+ y ago44:48

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On today's episode of Inclusion Unscripted, we explore the meaning of empowerment in the talent development process and ask the question: Do women of color need organizations to empower them? Host, Margaret Spence, unpacks the construct of empowering women of color within an organizational hierarchy. Margaret challenges the traditional definition o…

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E42: What Will You Regret? Breaking Free From Self-doubt 40:16

1+ y ago40:16

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We all have moments where we wonder if we've made the right decision or if we're on the right path. But what happens when those moments turn into regrets? For example, have you ever wondered what you'll regret if you don't act now? On this episode of Inclusion Unscripted, host Margaret Spence tackles this critical question. We're exploring the them…

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E41: Elevating Black Women’s Voices: We Must Be Clear About What We Want Next 48:31

1+ y ago48:31

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We'll Ask Black Women, What Do You Want Next? As Black women, we face unique challenges in the workplace, and it's essential to have a clear vision of what we want next in our careers. In this episode, we'll dive into the importance of having a career plan and being intentional about our goals. We'll also discuss strategies for advocating for ourse…

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E40: The Mythical Career Ladder for Black Women 42:19

1+ y ago42:19

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We will explore the systemic erasure of Black women at work. Despite their significant contributions to the workforce and following the yellow brick road for advancement, the career ladder is stalled. In this episode of Inclusion Unscripted, host Margaret Spence will discuss the state of Black Women's Careers and the unique and complex challenges t…

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E39: Can We Stop Pretending? 47:28

1+ y ago47:28

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In a soul-searching conversation with one of my fellow DEI Consultants, she asked the critical question that I immediately wrote down – Can We Stop Pretending? Can we stop pretending that you care about DEI? Can we stop pretending that if we follow the rules, we'll get promoted? Can we stop pretending that you want inclusive hiring practices? Can w…

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E38: Allyship Needs Less Lip Service and More Action 46:39

1+ y ago46:39

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If you're an ally, it's easy to say you believe in Diversity - But Allies Cannot Believe that Diversity Is Enough! Unfortunately, most allies commit to DEI verbally but not substantively, so how do we move beyond DEI is essential to having partners that build equity and inclusion. In this episode of Inclusion Unscripted, Margaret Spence will discus…

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E37: The Fight for Diversity Intensifies, Who Still Has Our Back? 47:28

1+ y ago47:28

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The fight for diversity and inclusion intensifies, and the silence is deafening. All the beautiful "inclusive statements" have dried up, and the propensity to push back against the erosion of inclusion is lost in the shuffle. The courage to say your actions against diversity aren't right is lost in the zeal to return to normal. What is normal if di…

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E36: Self-Reflection: DEI Leader Wellness, Are We Burnt Out Yet? 33:12

1+ y ago33:12

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Self-Reflection: Serious Thoughts Our Wellness, Actions, Motivations, and Resilience. One of my biggest struggles is finding time to support everyone who needs it while staying focused on the work I am trying to do every day. I know for most DEI Leaders, that is your struggle as well. So how do you stay focused and support everyone – when you also …

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E35: Advocating For Health Equity: What Should We Know? 42:53

1+ y ago42:53

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When we discuss diversity and inclusion, we often don’t touch on health equity. How do diverse people navigate spaces to access and receive equitable health care? Diversity decisions in health care can affect your employee’s well-being in the workplace. Everyone shows up as whole people – how can you help your employees navigate their health care i…

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E34: The Economic Power of Black Women Impact, Inequity, and Inclusion 56:37

1+ y ago56:37

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Can We Close The $2.3 Trillion Gap For Black Women? In this episode of "Inclusion Unscripted" with host Margaret Spence, the economic impact of Black Women is explored. The discussion is fueled by a recent article on Black Women's hair, which sparked a conversation about the economic challenges they face. The episode delves into Economics 101 for w…

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E33: The Four Seasons of Your Career: Nothing Stays The Same Forever 41:13

2y ago41:13

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What Season Best Describes Your Career? It's time to do more than survive! As we move toward the end of the year, it’s time to assess where you are in your career and begin the process of moving toward your renewed goals. Many of you are still in survival mode. Some of you are in the cul-de-sac of your career. Others are in the whirlwind of undefin…

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E32: When High-Powered Women Leaders Fail Do All Women Fail? 53:24

2y ago53:24

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Introspection: Are women given winnable roles? What happens when women fail on the public stage? Two days ago, I predicted that the British Prime Minister wouldn’t last until the end of the week. Of course, I’m sad that I was right. But her public demise should make every woman take a moment to think about their own rise and potential fall. When wo…

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E31: Put The Oxygen Mask On Ourselves: How Do We Support Each Other? 46:53

2y ago46:53

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The overarching question can I trust my own people to have my back? Imagine standing next to a 150-story building; you’re looking up, and through the windows, you can see your fellow brother and sisters of color working diligently, and you ask yourself, how can I get to that level? What kind of support do I need from my community to rise? What type…

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E30: The Power of Equity – Distilling Equity Into Talent Strategies 48:15

2y ago48:15

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When you think about equity, what are your first thoughts? The normal narrative around DEI goes something like this, “Organizations must make diversity not a nice to have but a key advantage in your organizations’ core mission, corporate and social responsibility, and because it’s the right thing to do.” Nowhere in that discussion do we add equity.…

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E29: The Collective Impact of Equity for Professionals of Color 44:42

2y ago44:42

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It just seems that equity isn’t a high-level discussion in the DEI space. Most DEI practitioners focus on creating diversity, building inclusion, and talking through equality but then stop short of addressing equity within their organizations. Why aren’t we leading off with equity before talking about diversity? In this episode of Inclusion Unscrip…

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E28: Who Believes In You? 43:21

2y ago43:21

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Besides your parents, your family, and friends, who believes in you? Who believes in your vision, your purpose, and your possibilities? Who believes that you can be a leader? It’s imperative to determine very quickly if your leaders believe in you. As a person of color, the organization we work for must believe in us. Without ardent supporters, you…

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E27: How Will You Rewrite the DEI Story to Build a Different Narrative? 41:09

2y ago41:09

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How can DEI survive if the story's narrative assumes that we are less than and need help becoming more than? In this episode of Inclusion Unscripted, Margaret Spence will address how we narrate the DEI story. She feels that our DEI Story cannot be "Poor, pitiful you," and along comes a big organization to rescue us from ourselves. The story doesn't…

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E26: We Can Say No! The Art of Saying What You Feel 35:23

2y ago35:23

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Season 2: Inclusion Unscripted - Saying No Even When It Hurts Us. Over the last three months, I've taken the position that I can say no. No – it's final, almost fatal, but I've said it repeatedly until it's now a comfortable position. When individuals reach out to ask me for help, it's okay to say no. At first, it was challenging to say no, but I r…

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E25: Managers: Why Should Anyone Trust You With Their Career? 43:04

2y ago43:04

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If I accept your job offer, can I trust you to build the career I want? When an employee agrees to work for your organization, they are trusting you with their career even if you don’t acknowledge that fact. Unfortunately, within the hiring process, we often underestimate the level of trust that employees place in us. Unfortunately, we violate the …

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E24: Why You Must Question Your Career Now - Where Are You Going? 46:42

2y ago46:42

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Are you the only option for this job, or are you an option on the hiring menu? If you’re on the menu, are you the salad or the main course? The time to ask powerful questions about your career starts right now! In this episode of Inclusion Unscripted, Margaret Spence will walk through 10 powerful questions that every high-achieving professional mus…

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E23: How We Fail Diverse Candidates During the Hiring Process 47:46

2y ago47:46

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The multiple ways we fail diverse candidates, from Recruiting to Retention to Upward Mobility. This episode will focus on how we fail diverse candidates during the hiring process. A recent Harvard Business Review study suggests that employers have unconscious biases that pull the wrong candidates into their recruiting funnel. However, building a di…

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E22: DEI Leader Burnout and Turnover 47:28

2y ago47:28

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Diversity leaders are often the unsung heroes within organizations, working tirelessly to promote inclusion and understanding. However, this work can take a toll, leading to burnout, disillusionment, and frustration. How do we balance the outside crisis and the in-house challenges? In this episode of Inclusion Unscripted, Margaret Spence reflects o…

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E21: The Existential Crisis Is Equity For Professionals of Color 41:21

2y ago41:21

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We’ve asked for more diversity but what we need is equity. We defined inclusion, we nuanced belonging, we begged for equality – it’s time to demand equity first. We should ask organizations to provide the numbers on what positions offer equity and how many women and diverse employees are in line for equity roles. Then we should demand more hiring i…

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E20: Who Wants DEI to Fail? 41:10

2y ago41:10

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One of the critical questions we must ask is, “Have You Been Given a Winnable Role?” Are you set up for failure, or are you empowered to succeed? If the option is failure when winning isn’t possible – Can You Fail? Critical questions for DEI Leaders. In this episode of Inclusion Unscripted, Margaret Spence will explore the tenets of failure within …

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E19: Your HR Department Has No Diversity But Your Responsible for DEI 42:00

2y ago42:00

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Your organization wants to hire diverse candidates, but your Human Resources Department is not diverse. How do you create impactful diversity initiatives when the HR team lacks diversity? How do you empower DEI when there are no diverse voices in the hiring process? What should we expect if the HR team has no person of color and no member of any mi…

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E18: Professional Gaslighting and Disrespect 48:26

2y ago48:26

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There isn’t a Black Women Alive Who Hasn’t Experienced Extreme Disrespect in Corporate Spaces. It doesn’t matter what role we occupy or our standing within the organization. Unfortunately, the fact that we are Black Women makes us an easy target for professional gaslighting. Even when we are perfect, have stellar credentials, and outperform the bes…

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E16: Talent Development For Diverse Women Over 50 42:42

2+ y ago42:42

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Talent Development & Appreciation for Diverse Women Over Age 50! Let's talk about Diverse Women Over Age 50, how organizations underappreciate their contribution, and why talent development must include women over 50. In this episode of Inclusion Unscripted, Margaret Spence will discuss DEI from the lens of diverse women over age 50. The new normal…

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E17: Limits to Women’s Success - How Far Up The Ladder Can We Go? 47:56

2+ y ago47:56

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Can Women Support Each Other? Can Diverse Women Get Support from Other Women? Why Do Women Limit Each Others Success and Why We Must Do Better Now - #BreakTheBias Over the years, I've observed that when a woman becomes a CEO and leaves the role, a man and sometimes several men always replace her. In this episode of Inclusion Unscripted, Margaret Sp…

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E15: Black Professionals You Are Enough! 48:32

2+ y ago48:32

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Black Professionals – We Are Enough Today, Tomorrow, and The Day After That Too. Stop looking to corporate spaces for validation of your greatness. In this episode of Inclusion Unscripted, Margaret Spence will remind Black Professionals that we are enough! Many of you look to your organizations to validate your purpose. You want your boss to tell y…

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E14: Executive Level Exclusion - Invited But Not Welcomed 41:49

2+ y ago41:49

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When We Are Invited Into Executive Spaces Will We Ever Belong? Can we ever feel like we belong in spaces that are not diverse and where the welcome mat is not rolled out to its fullest? Diversity can be deliberate, but belonging must be fostered – the challenge, organizations want executive-level diversity, but they will never do the hard work to m…

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E13 - We Are Still Placeholders: Being the Only One 43:17

2+ y ago43:17

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In this episode of Inclusion Unscripted host, Margaret Spence will discuss the Placeholder Syndrome - when you're the only one on the team representing your entire race or gender or gender identity. By definition, Placeholders are there to prove to you that we are ALL good enough. If you've beaten the odds and arrived in the executive seat as a min…

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E12 - Sham Interviews Corporate Americas Diversity Hiring Strategy 45:34

2+ y ago45:34

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Diversity Hiring, Do you really want to hire us? Sham Interviews, Token Slate of Candidates, and Psychological Trauma of Repeatedly Interviewing Black Professionals You Have No Intention of Hiring. For every Black Professional tokenized by your sham interviews and hiring processes – we are serving you with legal action and seeking Class Action Stat…

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E11: I Can’t Show My Anger: How Organizations and HR Microinvalidate Our Emotions 43:44

2+ y ago43:44

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It has long been assumed that Black and Brown professionals must remain stoic in the face of microaggressions and other forms of racism. We are told that we must not express our feelings of anger, disgust, frustration, infuriation, and sadness when you violate our wellbeing. Unfortunately, this form of microaggression often goes unchecked. It is a …

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E10: The Deliberate Internal Recruiting Gaps For Black Professionals 43:19

2+ y ago43:19

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One of the most significant intentional and deliberate oversight in the HR process is not fortifying the internal recruiting of Black Professionals. Yes, HR, you are intentional, willful, systematic, and procedurally excluding Black Professionals from your internal recruiting strategy. Margaret Spence says in this episode, "You also allow your mana…

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E9: When You Are At Your Best and Most Inclusive Self, Who Do You Want to Become? 32:59

2+ y ago32:59

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DEI Stands At a Fork In The Road! What are the pressing issues that cause employees to question your commitment to DEI and inclusion? Margaret Spence asks in this episode, does your prior patterns of behavior cause employees to question your commitment to DEI results? This episode was recorded live at the beginning of 2022 and focused on making "Th…

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E8: Can We Trust HR to Advocate Fully for DEI? 46:38

2+ y ago46:38

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We can't begin to talk about DEI success without mentioning Human Resources. In this episode, Margaret Spence will unpack HR's role in fostering, empowering, and roadblocking diversity initiatives. Can HR leaders show up bolder for people of color in any organization? Margaret Spence says in this episode, we are not here to create comfort zones for…

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E7: The Chief Diversity Officer Window Dressing 44:53

2+ y ago44:53

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After twelve months of socially responsible Chief Diversity Officer (CDO) and Diversity Director hiring, why are CDOs walking out the door to start their own consulting company or moving on to new opportunities outside of DEI? If I didn't know better, you'd think CDOs are saying to organizations, take your job and shove it – I will not participate …

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E6: When Will We Know If DEI Is Succeeding and Who Gets to Define DEI Success? 40:13

2+ y ago40:13

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How Will We Know If Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) Programs Are Succeeding? While organizations build DEI programs, very few ask us - the people who are supposed to know if it is successful, what do we define as success? Most organizations don't even attempt to meet the mark of success - they're just running data points and wishing it all w…

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E5: Inclusion Isn’t A Policy, Its People 47:50

2+ y ago47:50

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What is your definition of inclusion? Why are employers still writing diversity and inclusion policies, instead of evaluating your people? Here's a bold question, what will make your organization more inclusive? The real question is, can inclusion create reverse discrimination? Who will be offended because the room is more inclusive? In this episod…

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E4: We’re Already Invisible: Why Diverse Professionals Must Embrace The Great Resignation 49:25

2+ y ago49:25

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Is it time to start looking for a new job? For some, the time is now, diverse professionals are fed up, and most organizations underestimate the level of resentment we have for them. But as Black and Brown professionals entertain new opportunities – there's reason to be cautious and calculating. Host Margaret Spence says, what diverse professionals…

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E3: Are We Asking for Equity or Equality? 48:02

2+ y ago48:02

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When you think about Diversity and Inclusion what are we asking for? Is it equity or equality? I wonder if we're asking for the right thing. Are we looking for greater equality, or is it time to size up our equity stake in organizations? Within every organization, there are two sides of the house the profit center and the cost center. One side invo…

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E2: Let’s Talk About Respect For the DEI Process 48:10

2+ y ago48:10

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Can you implement diversity and inclusion without addressing respect? I chuckle when organizations attempt to build DEI programs without addressing the underlying issues around respect. The silent elephant in the room. As Aretha Franklyn said, RESPECT – All I’m asking is for a little respect. When managers fail to hire women or minorities – are you…

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E1: Finding Your DEI Super Power 43:45

3y ago43:45

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Why You’re The Right Person For This Role What makes you uniquely gifted at this moment, at this time, to raise our voices in this arena? Have you ever asked yourself that question? Over the last few weeks, I've deeply evaluated what makes us good at advocating for diversity and inclusion – it certainly isn't the work of diversity. It's something m…

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Intro to Inclusion Unscripted with Margaret Spence 3:49

3y ago3:49

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Inclusion Unscripted, where we’re not just talking about diversity and inclusion, we’re living it. The Inclusion Unscripted Live Weekly Podcast is unapologetically honest about diversity and inclusion in the workplace. Host Margaret Spence believes that to push beyond diversity by the numbers, we need to start having conversations that no one else …

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