Imagine a world where communities thrive, curiosity sparks change, and hope fuels action. Welcome to The World We Want, the NAAEE podcast that's bringing a better future to life, one inspiring story at a time. Join us as we chat with people across continents and cultures who care about education and the environment—the trailblazers, visionary leaders, and everyday heroes making a difference. Learn more at https://naaee.org/podcast.
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Join host Jack Baker as he explores under-appreciated conservation stories! Featuring interviews with the pioneering conservationists at the forefront of wildlife protection, the show promises to highlight every story – no matter how small, strange, or unexpected! 🦜 Also, look out for new episodes of ReZOO – The Zoo Review Podcast! Co-hosted by Jodi McFarlane, this series investigates the conservation work of zoos from around the world, while also offering perspective on the visitor experien ...
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Global Voices: Lessons from Young African Leaders on Climate and Sustainability with Harrison Ashangwa and Richard Tusabe
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52:47Turning universal challenges into local solutions through environmental education, two young African leaders, Harrison Ashangwa and Ritchie Tusabe, are keeping EE relevant and thriving through youth-led initiatives. Harrison and Ritchie both grew up in African countries where environmental education is part of daily life—as knowledge passed down fr…
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106. Bringing Beavers Back to London (with Sean McCormack from the Ealing Beaver Project) [Recorded Live @ Global Birdfair 2024]
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28:21Welcome to the fourth special episode recorded liveat Global Birdfair 2024. Today, Jack is joined by Sean McCormack from the Ealing Beaver Project to discuss their efforts to bring beavers back to London! Jack and Sean discuss how this project came to be, the challenges it has faced, and the many successes that it has already seen! Plus, the duo ta…
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105. Conserving Africa’s Vultures (with Tom Morath from the Hawk Conservancy Trust & Nature's A Hoot) [Recorded Live @ Global Birdfair 2024]
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25:07Welcome to the third of four special episodes recorded live at Global Birdfair 2024. Today, Jack is joined by the host of ‘Natures a Hoot’, Tom Morath, to discuss the wonderful world of Vultures. They discuss the joys of working with Egyptian Vultures, the challenges of protecting the Lappet-faced vulture, and the Poison Response Action Campaign wh…
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104. The Legend of the Iberian Lynx (with Carmen Rueda from CBD Habitat Foundation & The Lynx Connect Project) [Recorded Live @ Global Birdfair 2024]
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25:42Welcome to the second of four special episodes recorded live at Global Birdfair 2024. Today, Jack is joined by Carmen Rueda from the Lynx Connect Project to discuss their work to protect the highly endangered Iberian Lynx. The duo discuss the importance of connection between local communities and the lynx, how the species bounced back from just 100…
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103. Rewilding the Greater Côa Valley (with Pedro Prata from Rewilding Portugal) [Recorded Live @ Global Birdfair 2024]
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28:22Welcome to the first of four special episodes recorded live at Global Birdfair 2024. Today, Jack is joined by Pedro Prata from Rewilding Portugal to discuss their work in the Greater Côa Valley! Jack and Pedro discuss the importance of coexistence between people and wildlife, how the production of shoes has been assisting rewilding efforts, and how…
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Outdoor Classrooms and Digital Tools: Reimagining Education for Today’s Students with Stefan Moss
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44:15How can a student’s future be impacted when a scientist passionate about education steps into the classroom? Stefan Moss, an environmental scientist and educator, joins host Gerry Ellis to discuss how he transforms complex science principles into engaging, hands-on learning experiences, fostering both hope and awe in young learners. From his early …
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Transforming Environmental Education from Knowledge to Action with Kathy McGlauflin and Gus Medina
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45:05Delve into how environmental education programs have evolved from lessons of awareness to calls to action. Join host Gerry Ellis in this thought-provoking conversation with Kathy McGlauflin and Gus Medina, examining how these shifts, along with the changes in methods and technology, have shaped the field and what it means for connecting people to n…
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Teaching Through Laughter: A New Bridge to Climate Conversations with Esteban Gast
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48:33How can humor break down barriers and ignite hope in the face of climate change? Join comedian and climate educator Esteban Gast as he reveals how comedy can inspire climate awareness and action. From navigating diverse audiences to building bridges through laughter and shared experiences, Esteban and his cohort of comedians bring fresh perspective…
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102. Are You Team Moo Deng or Team Pesto? (with CJ Greco, Host of The Birdy Bunch Podcast & Teen Programs Manager for the Lincoln Park Zoo) [Pangolin Holiday Spectacular 2024]
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57:54It is time to settle the biggest and most controversial debate of the year, are you #TeamMooDeng or #TeamPesto?! To fight it out, I am joined by the Teen Programs Manager for the Lincoln Park Zoo, the host of the Birdy Bunch Podcast and one of the NAAEE 30 Under 30 – the incredible CJ Greco! CJ was here last week talking all about their favourite c…
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101. Recapping the Very Best of Conservation in 2024! (with CJ Greco, Host of The Birdy Bunch Podcast & Teen Programs Manager for the Lincoln Park Zoo) [Pangolin Holiday Spectacular 2024]
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50:48It is time for the annual PANGOLIN HOLIDAY SPECTACULAR! This year, I am joined by the Teen Programs Manager for the Lincoln Park Zoo, the host of the Birdy Bunch Podcast, and one of the NAAEE 30 Under 30, the incredible CJ Greco! We are going to talk a little bit about their work, their love of puns, and how they came to be one of the BEST environm…
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Shattering Assumptions About the Rules of Conservation Education with Dr. Kathayoon Khalil
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36:35How can we rethink the role of nonformal education and conservation spaces to build deeper connections with the world around us? In this episode of The World We Want, Dr. Kathayoon Khalil shares how breaking barriers, building connections, and fostering empathy can create a brighter future for people and the planet. She also discusses the value of …
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100. Celebrating the Top 10 Most Under-Appreciated Creatures in the World! (with Robi, Emma, Alicia, Connor, Steph, Natasha, Indy, Tasnia, Toryn, Tomi, Franca, Rae & Jodi)
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1:37:31Welcome to the 100th Episode of Pangolin: The Conservation Podcast! I cannot believe that we are finally here, and so we are going to spend today celebrating. Firstly, we are going to look back at the last 4 years and reflect on what it means to be here. Secondly, we are going to be ranking the world’s most under-appreciated and misunderstood creat…
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When You Wonder, You're Learning: A Legacy of Learning with Authors Gregg Behr and Ryan Rydzewski
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45:59Effective education doesn't happen accidentally. Fred Rogers, beloved educator, television personality, and friend to millions through the TV screen, knew this. His thoughtful approach to Mister Rogers' Neighborhood was grounded in science, pedagogy, and a deep understanding of children’s emotional and intellectual needs. In this episode of The Wor…
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Greetings from Pittsburgh: The NAAEE Conference 2024 Recap!
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45:54The great Pennsylvanian poet Taylor Swift once asked, “arethere still beautiful things?”. The NAAEE Conference in Pittsburgh proved the answer is a resounding YES! I was lucky enough to be able to attend the North American Association for Environmental Education Conference in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania from the 6th-9th of November 2024! I met the mos…
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Exploring the Healthy Heart of Environmental Education with Dr. Vik Mohan
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39:20Dr. Vik Mohan speaks of his lifelong journey of stewardship, healing, listening, and community building in this episode of The World We Want: the NAAEE Podcast. Find out more about Vik's work in Madagascar, across Africa, and within, as he and host Gerry Ellis discuss what it takes for meaningful partnerships and on a personal level, the well-being…
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Cultural Warmth Fueling Climate Impact with Joy Hayley Munthali
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59:29A key component of effective environmental education is working with the communities you're helping, even letting them lead. Joy Munthali, founder of Green Girls Platform, speaks to the process that has led to meaningful and longlasting partnerships both with communities and funders. "We need education that works for young people, education that wo…
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Environmental Education in the Urban Wilderness with Jaime González
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55:51Explore the urban wilderness with conservation educator Jaime González as he talks about the evolution of the conservation field as well as his own growth as an educator. Having grown up in Houston, Texas, Jaime shares about the impact a "nature-deprived" community has on our perception of where beauty, wonder, and yes, conservation can take place.…
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99.5. World Lemur Day 2024! (with Lynne Venart, Director of the Lemur Conservation Network)
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1:09:15It is one of the best days of the year - World Lemur Day! To celebrate, Jack is joined by the Director of the Lemur Conservation Network, Lynne Venart, to discuss all of the most recent progress in Lemur conservation. There are so many incredible, exciting, progressive, and brilliant things going on across Madagascar (and the rest of the world) to …
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99. Queer is Natural! (with Christine Wilkinson - Conservation Biologist, Carnivore Ecologist & Science Communicator) [Pangolin Pride]
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1:03:19It is the final episode of Pangolin Pride! This time, Jack is joined by the incredible Christine Wilkinson to discuss how being Queer is Natural! Christine is a researcher, advocate and science communicator with a passion for Queer Ecology. So, Jack and Christine talk about their journey into this world, what queer ecology is and why it matters, an…
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98. Designing Dublin Zoo's Conservation Master Plan! (with Andrew Mooney, Conservation & Research Officer at Dublin Zoo) [Pangolin Pride]
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52:35Today we are celebrating Dublin Zoo's Conservation Master Plan! Jack is joined by the brilliant Andrew Mooney to discuss how this came to be, what it contains and how it is aiming to create a complete paradigm shift within the organisation! Jack and Andrew also talk about the IUCN Centre for Species Survival which is based at the zoo and how the or…
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97. This Episode is Fire! (with Kendall Calhoun, Postdoctoral Researcher at UCLA) [Pangolin Pride]
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54:50Today things are heating up as we discuss the impact of fire on wildlife! To do this Jack is joined by the absolutely brilliant Kendall Calhoun, whose work focuses on helping to understand how extreme climactic events, such as Megafires, are impacting wildlife in California. Jack and Kendall discuss climate justice, the ability of different species…
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96. The Story of the Sloth (with Andrés Bräutigam, Veterinary Supervisor at the Toucan Rescue Ranch) [Pangolin Pride]
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1:02:50Today Andrés Bräutigam is joining us to tell the story of the sloth! He teaches us how these amazing animals evolved, what makes them special and how we can protect them. He also discusses the day-to-day challenges of being a wildlife vet, and what it is like to work with a really diverse range of species! Make sure to share your thoughts on social…
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95. Providing Knowledge, Power & Hope Through Environmental Education (with Alerick Pacay of 'Seeds of the Ocean', & Tomás Teicher of 'Conciente Colectivo') [Pangolin Pride]
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1:13:44Joining Jack today, are Tomás Teicher (Consiente Colectivo) and Alerick Pacay (Seeds of the Ocean)! They are here to discuss the power and impact of environmental education! The three educators will discuss the importance of equipping young people with skills to help protect the environment; how to engage people in environmental education; some of …
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94. The Song of the Gibbon (with Susan Cheyne, Co-Chair of the Borneo Nature Foundation International & Vice-Chair of the IUCN Section on Small Apes) [Pangolin Pride]
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52:39Today we are joined by Susan Cheyne to discuss the singing, swinging story of the Gibbon! Susan is a co-director of the Borneo Nature Foundation International and the Vice Chair of the IUCN section on small apes. She talks about why gibbons sing, how their social groups function, and how we can help to protect them! We also discuss the importance o…
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93. Standing Up Against Homophobia & Transphobia Online (with Allie McGregor, Senior Comms Officer for the Royal Zoological Society of Scotland) [Pangolin Pride]
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54:11Joining us to celebrate #PangolinPride is Allie McGregor, Senior Comms Officer for the Royal Zoological Society of Scotland! Allie is here to discuss how to promote positivity online and how to deal with homophobia and transphobia on social media. Plus, she tells us all about some of her favourite species from New Zealand! Make sure to share your t…
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I am so excited to announce that for Season 7 of Pangolin we are officially celebrating Pangolin Pride! 💚🏳️🌈 For the whole month of June, I will be releasing episodes which celebrate voices and stories from the LGBTQ+ community. I will be joined by wildlife vets, environmental educators, researchers, communications professionals and a whole host o…
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ReZOO #28: Parc Zoologique de Paris & La Ménagerie, le zoo du Jardin des Plantes!
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1:09:09On today’s special episode, Jack and Jodi discuss both Parc Zoologique de Paris & La Ménagerie, le zoo du Jardin des Plantes! Having both visited Paris in the last year, they compare the two experiences and say what each of them do well. Which is better, the historical Ménagerie OR the custom built Parc Zoologique? One thing is for certain, both ar…
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92. The Power of the Pangolin (with Kelsey Prediger - Founder of the Pangolin Conservation & Research Foundation)
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44:08It is the Season 6 finale! To celebrate, Jack is joined by one of the first people he ever spoke to on the show, the incredible Kelsey Prediger! When they first spoke 4 years ago, Kelsey was a masters student working on pangolin conservation in Namibia. Since then, she has founded 'The Pangolin Conservation and Research Foundation', influenced gove…
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91. International Chameleon Day! (with Chris Anderson & Fano Ratsoavina from the IUCN Chameleon Specialist Group)
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1:01:03Today Jack is celebrating International Chameleon Day with Chris Anderson and Fano Ratsoavina from the IUCN Chameleon Specialist Group! With over 200 different species, chameleons are some of the most incredibly inspiring animals on Earth - you are going to fall in love with them! Today, the group dispel some of the misconceptions people have surro…
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Last year Jack and Jodi made a very special pilgrimage to Prague Zoo to visit their pangolins, however what they found was so much more than they could have hoped for! This incredible zoo is home to Spoonbills, Tasmanian Devils, Echidnas, Javan Leopards, Malayan Tigers, Giant Salamanders and SO MUCH MORE! The duo had such an incredible time and it …
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90. A Boar-ing Conversation About Rewilding & Shifting Baseline Syndrome! (with Toryn Whitehead - PhD Student and Member of BES’s Climate Change Special Interest Group)
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1:15:58Today Jack is joined by Toryn Whitehead, a PhD Researcher at Kings College London and a member of the British Ecological Society’s Climate Change Special Interest Group! He is here to talk about his research into shifting baseline syndrome, rewilding and feral pigs/wild boar in Scotland! Jack and Toryn also discuss the importance of respect and nua…
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89. The World of the Wolf (with Martha Hunt Handler, Board President of the Wolf Conservation Center)
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51:43Today Jack is joined by Martha Hunt Handler - an author, wolf advocate and Board President of the Wolf Conservation Center! The duo discuss how Martha began her conservation journey, the story of the Mexican Grey Wolf, the tale of Yellowstone National Park and how we can all help to protect these incredible, misunderstood creatures! Jack and Martha…
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88. How to Love & Protect Local Wildlife! (with Emma Hodson - Host of 'Zoology Ramblings' and 'The Biome Project', & Wildlife Champions Assistant for the Avon Wildlife Trust)
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1:01:13Today Jack is joined by Emma Hodson – co-host of 'Zoology Ramblings' and 'the Biome Project'! She is here to talk about how we can all act for the nature that surrounds us! This includes taking action in our gardens, learning more about local nature, and using apps like iNaturalist and Merlin Bird ID to form greater connections to nature! While the…
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Reading 'Blue' By Alicia Hayden (A Poem from 'Multi-Coloured Ghost Towns')
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3:57Welcome to the final bonus episode celebrating the work of Alicia Hayden – a creative conservationist, wildlife artist and poet! Her most recent poetry collection, ‘Multi-coloured Ghost Towns’, is a celebration of her life and connection with nature. Today, Jack reads ‘Blue’, a deeply personal poem about the connection between two people. Alicia’s …
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Reading 'Swimming Laps' By Alicia Hayden (A Poem from 'Multi-Coloured Ghost Towns')
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3:57Welcome to the second of three bonus episodes celebrating the work of Alicia Hayden – a creative conservationist, wildlife artist and poet! Her most recent poetry collection, ‘Multi-coloured Ghost Towns’, is a celebration of her life and connection with nature. Today, Jack reads ‘Swimming Laps’, a beautiful reflection on the questions we pose to na…
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Reading 'Something Very Gentle' By Alicia Hayden (A Poem from 'Multi-Coloured Ghost Towns')
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3:24This week we are celebrating the work of Alicia Hayden – a creative conservationist, wildlife artist and poet! Her most recent poetry collection, ‘Multi-coloured Ghost Towns’, is a celebration of her life and connection with nature. In the first of 3 special episodes, Jack reads ‘Something Rather Gentle’, a poem about the beautiful connection betwe…
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87. What is Wildlife Artivism? (with Alicia Hayden - Creative Conservationist, Artist, Poet & Author of 'Multi-Coloured Ghost Towns')
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1:14:21Today Jack is joined by Creative Conservationist, Wildlife Artist, Poet and generally lovely person Alicia Hayden to discuss wildlife artivism. They explain what this is and how it can make science far more accessible! The pair also chat about how Alicia grew up drawing and writing little stories about ants, her work with organisations like the BBC…
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NAAEE Instagram Live: Using Photography, Podcasting & Technology in Environmental Education (with Nina Hamilton from the NAAEE & Anthony Ochieng from TonyWild)
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56:48Welcome to a special bonus episode of Pangolin! Today I sit down with Nina Hamilton from the 'North American Association for Environmental Education' and Anthony Ochieng of Tony Wild to discuss environmental education. The conversation revolves around wildlife photography, podcasting and the importance of sharing our knowledge and love with the wor…
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86. The Tale of the American Red Wolf (with Craig Standridge, Nature Engagement Curator for the North West Trek Wildlife Park)
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59:05Today Jack is talking all things Red Wolf with Craig Standridge, the Nature Engagement Curator for the North West Trek Wildlife Park! He is here to discuss this incredible creature, its story, its future and all of the incredible work that has gone on across the USA to help protect it! This involves discussions of the AZA's American Red Wolf SAFE P…
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85. Embracing Invertebrates & Unlearning Our Biases (with Jasmine Isa Qureshi - Author, Researcher, Poet, Bee Enthusiast and Founder of 'Soil To Sky')
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1:12:22Today Jack is joined by Jasmine Isa Qureshi, who is – not to set the bar too high - undoubtedly one of the most incredible speakers that we have ever had on the podcast! The duo talk all about where Jasmine's love for nature comes from, their work with organisations such as the Bumblebee Trust, and their love for flat-topped millipedes! Jack and Ja…
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Exploring 'Colouring for Conservation' by Rae Landriau [Bonus Episode]
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3:22Jack checks out Rae Landriau's 'Colouring for Conservation' - a colouring book dedicated to raising awareness of climate and conservation issues! Contained within the book's pages are the Bowhead Whale, Beluga, and Lynx... as well as a variety of smaller and crazier creatures. This book is perfect for anyone looking to relax, take a moment to thems…
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84. Colouring for Conservation (with Rae Landriau, Founder of Create Change Collective & Member of the NAAEE 30 Under 30)
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1:13:29Welcome to SEASON 6 OF PANGOLIN! It feels sooooo good to finally be back - we have so many amazing things in store! To kick things off, Jack is joined by Rae Landriau to discuss her amazing work using unique, brave, and bold awareness raising methods. The duo chat all about her Pollinating Positivity Project, the River Aware Challenge, and the Clim…
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ReZOO #26: Rotterdam Zoo (Diergaarde Blijdorp)
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1:28:23While in the Netherlands, Jack and Jodi made a special trip to Rotterdam to visit it’s incredible zoo! Knowing that this collection was home to Pallas’ Cats, Amur Leopards, Toucans, Gorillas and a WHOLE AQUARIUM, they had very high expectations. Thankfully Rotterdam exceeded their wildest dreams! Useful Links Don't forget to subscribe to the podcas…
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On today’s episode Jack & Jodi ReZOO the incredible ARTIS! Found right in the heart of Amsterdam, this incredible collection is home to everything from Elephants to Spoonbills. Having both been before, Jack and Jodi had high expectations for their visit – time to find out if they where met! *THIS EPISODE WAS RECORDED BEFORE THE NEW LION HABITAT WAS…
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83. A Great Big Happy Recap of Conservation in 2023! [New Year Special]
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56:00Happy New Year! Today Jack looks back on all of the year’s best conservation stories. That means we get to talk about everything from Redwoods to Manta Rays, from Echidnas to Puffins! Jack also discusses his personal highs and lows, makes some New Year’s Resolutions and reflects on what he wants to see in 2024! Thank you so much for an amazing 2023…
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82. The Pangolin Holiday Spectacular 2023: A Christmas Q&Sleigh!
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1:03:50Are you having a Giraffe! It's Christmas again already?! We are back for our annual Christmas Special and this year it's just family. So, Jack sits down in front of a roaring fire, with a big mug of hot chocolate, and answers your burning questions! (some details about hot chocolate and fire may be exaggerated 👀) Have you ever wondered... What is J…
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ReZOO #25: The Arizona-Sonora Desert Museum (with Connor Davies)
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1:39:04Welcome back to 'ReZOO: The Zoo Review Podcast'! Today Jack is joined by Connor Davies to discuss a zoo which promises to ‘turn your idea of a museum inside out’ – the absolutely glorious Arizona-Sonora Desert Museum! Set in the beautiful desert of Arizona, this Museum contains a Zoo, Botanical Gardens, Art Gallery, Natural History Museum, and Aqua…
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81. Against All Odds: The Scale of Extinction (with Beryl Makori of the Pangolin Project & Karen Laurence-Rowe, Wildlife Artist of the Year) [Produced with the David Shepherd Wildlife Foundation]
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59:57Today Jack is joined by Beryl Makori (The Pangolin Project) and Karen Laurence-Rowe (Wildlife Artist of the Year) to discuss the conservation of giant pangolins in Kenya, and the power of wildlife art! On top of that, the trio also discuss bats, whales, chameleons and how we can all use our talents for conservation! This episode was produced in col…
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ReZOO #24: Reid Park Zoo (with Connor Davies)
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1:40:32Today, Jack is joined by guest host Connor Davies to discuss the absolutely wonderful Reid Park Zoo. Found in Tucson, Arizona, this incredible little collection boasts an impressive array of species from around the world. Jack and Connor discuss the zoo's conservation programmes, Africa & South America Trails, and future plans for development! Some…
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ReZOO #23: Phoenix Zoo (with Connor Davies)
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2:24:31Welcome back to 'ReZOO: The Zoo Review Podcast'! Today, Jack is joined by guest host Connor Davies to discuss the incredible Phoenix Zoo. They chat all about the zoo's Arizona Trail, Conservation Work, Development Projects and what makes it truly spectacular! They also discuss amazing species such as Pronghorns, Crested Screamers, Toucans and Siama…
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