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A podcast about racial justice, anti-racism, and racial reconciliation. This podcast provides opportunities for white people to develop greater understanding and responsibility regarding race and racism. We bring you conversations and resources with a wide-range of experts and leaders. Hosted by psychologists Drs. Brandy Liebscher and Danielle Beck.
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When You Say (Kind of) Racist Stuff, but Don't Mean To
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It can be confusing and challenging for white folks who don’t see themselves as racist to acknowledge the subtle, and not-so-subtle, ways we exhibit racial biases and stereotypical thinking. This can be true even for people who are in close relationships with people of color and committed to being anti-racist. In episode 12, Drs. Brandy Liebscher a…
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Approaching Polarized Discussions About Racism
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How can I get through to people who see things so differently than me? What if I lose all my credibility and influence? These are questions we commonly hear, and have asked ourselves many times, when it comes to talking about race and racism. In episode 11, Drs. Brandy Liebscher and Danielle Beck discuss ways to approach these often polarized discu…
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Facing Our History. A Conversation with Allison Thomas
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In episode 10, Drs. Brandy Liebscher and Danielle Beck talk with Allison Thomas about her passion for researching her ancestors who were enslavers dating back to the 17th century in Virginia. Allison shares her family’s legacy, with humility and emotional honesty. She also discusses how racial healing can only occur if we are willing to tell the tr…
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How Do You Share a Podcast for White People? Very Carefully
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Sharing a podcast about race and racism is one thing. But when it’s specifically for white people, not surprisingly, there’s a lot of uncertainty about how to recommend this podcast to white friends and family. In episode 9, Drs. Brandy Liebscher and Danielle Beck offer some suggestions and challenges for how to help spread the word about the podca…
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1st Steps to Becoming Actively Anti-Racist
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In Beverly Daniel Tatum’s well-known book, Why Are All the Black Kids Sitting Together in the Cafeteria? she makes a helpful distinction between being actively racist, passively racist, and actively anti-racist. Unlearning racial implicit (unconscious) bias is an important step towards becoming actively anti-racist in one’s identity and way of life…
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Are All White People Racist? (No. Well, kind of. Let us explain.)
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In order to try and answer that question you need to understand the difference between prejudice and racism, know what systemic racism is, and be aware of implicit racial bias. All of which, Drs. Brandy Liebscher and Danielle Beck talk about in episode 7. Because this episode takes a more instructional approach, it’s been divided into two parts. In…
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This week we say farewell to President Barack Obama and First Lady Michelle Obama and face an uncertain future with a new president and administration. In this episode, which originally aired after the election, co-hosts Brandy Liebscher and Danielle Beck share, with rawness and openness, their own emotional response to the election and how to push…
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In episode 6, Drs. Brandy Liebscher and Danielle Beck talk with Stephen Lennstrom about his commitment to anti-racism and racial reconciliation as a pastor and theologian. Stephen shares personal stories and insights as a white man and Christian seeking to find his place in the transformative and liberating work of racial justice. At the beginning …
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In episode 5, co-host Brandy Liebscher sits down with her dad, Larry Liebscher, a retired police officer, to talk about police brutality. Their conversation was recorded following the deaths of Philando Castile (St. Paul, Minn.) and Alton Sterling (Baton Rouge) who were shot and killed by police July 2016. Brandy and her father attended a community…
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In episode 4, Drs. Brandy Liebscher and Danielle Beck grapple with the reality of a Trump presidency. They share their own emotional turmoil in the wake of this election, mindful of the fear, pain, and anger of those already vulnerable and marginalized in the United States. They also discuss their resolve to support white people who are committed t…
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Erina Kim-Eubanks: "Lessons from Ferguson"
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In episode 3, Drs. Brandy Liebscher and Danielle Beck interview Erina Kim-Eubanks, a Korean-American minister serving in Northern California. Erina talks about a trip she took this summer with a group of clergy to Ferguson, MO. During this trip the clergy participated in a protest at The Muny (St. Louis) in solidarity with the Black Lives Matter mo…
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Have you ever felt uncomfortable or defensive when talking about race or racism? Or have you ever received feedback that you were being insensitive when all you were trying to do was understand? In episode 2, Drs. Brandy Liebscher and Danielle Beck discuss common emotional reactions you might have in the midst of difficult conversations and experie…
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In episode 1, Drs. Brandy Liebscher and Danielle Beck introduce their new podcast, share why they created a podcast specifically for white people, and talk about their own commitment to racial justice, anti-racism, and racial reconciliation. Be sure to check out Dr. Brandy Liebscher's blog about "repurposed space" for white people who are committed…
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Coming soon, a podcast for white people about racial justice, anti-racism, and racial reconciliation. Hosted by psychologists Drs. Brandy Liebscher and Danielle Beck.
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