Prof. Wayne Visser, PhD, shares his reflections on what it means to be purpose-inspired - for business, society and each one of us. The podcast explores how business can be a force for good in the world, and how individuals can make a positive difference. Covering topics like corporate social responsibility (CSR), sustainable business and transformational change, each series is based on one of Dr Visser's books that synthesizes the emerging ideas, practices and lessons learned on the journey ...
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Join me, Prof Wayne Visser, for inspiring conversations with leaders in the breakthrough movement to regenerate nature, society and the economy. Thriving is about going beyond sustainability to a net positive agenda of innovation and regeneration. Each episode is a dialogue with thought leaders and pioneering practitioners, capturing their perspective on the six great transitions to thriving: how to go from degradation to restoration of ecosystems, from depletion to renewal of resources, fro ...
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I'm Gauri Talathi-Lamb and this is Business of Building - a personal note from the leaders of today to the leaders of tomorrow. I am an engineer, project manager, business owner, CEO, wife and mother. I'm also an ordinary girl from an ordinary suburb in Mumbai, and I have had the absolute pleasure of meeting the most extraordinary and inspiring people in my career and life who have made a huge difference to me, to their teams and their communities. If you are looking for the ways to celebrat ...
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41. Doughnut Economics for Business, with Erinch Sahan
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My guest this week is Erinch Sahan, Business & Enterprise Lead at Doughnut Economics Action Lab (DEAL). In this episode, he discusses how: Incentives in business are working against planetary boundaries and social foundations Growth as a core driver of business is incompatible with doughnut economics We need to make the deep design of business rege…
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40. For the Love of Soil, with Nicole Masters
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My guest this week is Nicole Masters, Director of Integrity Soils and author of For the Love of Soil. In this episode, she discusses how: Farmers feel connected to the land, yet are destroying the living soil “Feeding the world” is a distribution problem, not a production problem Regenerative agriculture is a philosophy or paradigm, not a set of te…
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39. How Regeneration Shifts us from being Apart From Nature to being A Part Of Nature, with David Harland
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My guest this week is David Harland, until recently the CEO (International) of the Eden Project, with its two biomes with a million plants and the world’s largest indoor rainforest. In this episode, he discusses how: The Eden Project shows “the art of the possible” in turning ecosystem degradation into restoration Buckminster Fuller’s “spaceship ea…
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38. Invoking the Spirit of the Salmon to Tackle Diversity, Equity and Inclusion, with Tamara Makoni
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My guest this week is Tamara Makoni, Founder and CEO of Kazuri Consulting. In this episode, she discusses how: Equality and equity are different – and why equity is more important for creating fair outcomes Discrimination often emerges unconsciously, for example through “micro-aggressions” Diversity and inclusion require investment of time and reso…
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37. Regenerative Agriculture Doesn’t Work Without Mutual Accountability, with Aneel Kumar Ambavaram
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My guest this week is Aneel Kumar Ambavaram is the Founder Director of the Raddis (Radically Disruptive) Cotton Program. In this episode, he discusses how: He made the transition from selling agricultural chemicals to leading regenerative agriculture Regenerative agriculture increases the resilience for small farmers in a climate damaged world Tran…
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36. Giving Diverse People a Seat at the Table is Not Enough, with Hanan Challouki
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My guest this week is Hanan Challouki, the Founder of Inclusified. In this episode, she discusses why: Inclusion goes beyond having the right processes to having the right culture Listening is as important as giving people a seat at the table Diverse teams are more productive and more creative Diversity is most needed – and hardest to embrace – in …
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35. A Better Everyday Life for the Many People, with Ludvig Liljekvist
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My guest this week is Ludvig Liljekvist, Global Strategy, Development & Innovation Insight and Foresight leader for Ingka Group (largest IKEA retailer). In this episode, he discusses: What “positive” means in IKEA’s People and Planet Positive strategy Why circularity remains challenging for a retail business focused on affordability How three “wick…
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34. Making Sustainability and Diversity Business-as-usual, with Audrey-Flore Ngomsik
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My guest this week is Audrey-Flore Ngomsik, CEO & Co-Founder of Trianon Scientific Communication and President of The Brussels Binder. In this episode, she discusses how: A more complex and dynamic world makes diversity more necessary to survive and thrive Incorporating diversity into targets and incentives is needed to make change happen Role mode…
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33. Impact Investing, Hip Hop and the Black Opportunity, with Tino Chebebe
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My guest this week is Tino Chibebe, author of The Black Opportunity, Founders’ Associate at Azteq and Investment Committee member at Impact Shakers Microfund. In this episode, he discusses how: Impact investing can make a critical difference in tackling social and environmental challenges Afropeans are underrepresented in the venture capital and te…
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32. What Trees Can Tell Us About a Changing Climate, with Valérie Trouet
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My guest this week is Valérie Trouet, a palaeoclimatologist, Professor of Dendrochronology at the University of Arizona and Scientific Director of the Belgian Climate Centre. In this episode, she discusses how: Studying tree rings can give insights into climate change over the past 2,000 years There is evidence that climate change was a contributin…
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31. Breakthroughs in Safe and Sustainable Data Storage, with Bhupinder Bhullar
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My guest this week is Bhupinder Bhullar, CEO and Co-Founder of Swiss Vault. In this episode, he discusses how: Data storage represents around 4% of global carbon emissions and $66 billion of e-waste Energy footprints and cybersecurity risk are especially high for genetic data storage Innovation has led to more than 10X reductions in energy consumpt…
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30. Developing the Heartset of Femininity, Family and Flexibility, with Nuria Chinchilla
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My guest this week is Nuria Chinchilla, the IESE Business School Professor of Leadership and Head of the IESE Chair on Women in Leadership. In this episode, she discusses how: Waste and pollution occur not only in the natural environment, but also in society Values are different from value, help us to go beyond a new mindset to a new heartset We ne…
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29. Navigating the Nature Agenda, with Jason Walters
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My guest this week is Jason Walters, Director of GlobeScan, who has overseen research among 11,000 people from 11 countries on biodiversity and business. In this episode he talks about: Why action on biodiversity is so far behind action on climate change – yet starting to gain traction in the past 2 years How only 2% of people believe nature is in …
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28. Don't Be Mean to the Holocene, with Lucy Siegle
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My guest this week is Lucy Siegle, a British journalist, broadcaster and author of books on ethical living, including most recently Be the Ultimate Friend of the Earth. In this episode, she talks about: What the role of the media is in educating people on social and environmental issues – and how requirements for “balanced” reporting can be a barri…
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27. Regeneration: Putting Life at the Centre of Everything, with Paul Hawken
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My guest this week is Paul Hawken, environmentalist, entrepreneur, activist and author of the bestselling books The Ecology of Commerce, Drawdown and Regeneration. In this episode, he talks about: Why sustainability has become a “weasel word” and limited practice that we may be better off avoiding altogether How regeneration is different to sustain…
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Building Partnerships to Benefit All with Rachel Bell
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On this episode of Business of Building I am joined by Rachel Bell, an Architect and Director of Partnerships at Stride Treglown. Her journey started with a BTEC in Construction and then she studied architecture at Bath university. Having joined Stride Treglown in 2000, Rachel has worked across many different sectors. Her role now at board level is…
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26. The Yin and Yang of Inclusion and Innovation, with Francoise Chombar
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My guest week is Francoise Chombar, Chairwoman at MELEXIS and STEM Platform, and board member at AMS and Umicore. In this episode, she talks about: How technology can be a force for positive impact, but only if it is inclusive – and how inclusion is a driver for innovation Why diversity, equity and inclusion (DEI) needs to become a societal and org…
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25. The Factory as a Forest, with Jon Khoo
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My guest week is Jon Khoo, Head of Sustainability (EAAA) at Interface. In this episode, he talks about: Why doing “less bad” is no longer a credible option and what becoming a restorative enterprise means in practice, in terms of ambitious strategy and regenerative design How Interface is learning to live zero, love carbon, let nature cool and lead…
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Thriving in a Sustainable World with Dr. Wayne Visser
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On this episode of Business of Building I am joined by Dr. Wayne Visser, Professor of Integrated Value and Holder of the Chair in Sustainable Transformation at Antwerp Management School and author of the best-selling book Thriving. He is also Founder of CSR International, Director of Kaleidoscope Futures and Fellow at the University of Cambridge In…
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24. What’s Broken in our Food System, and How to Fix It, with Claudia Lee
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My guest week is Claudia Lee, a journalist and podcaster on sustainable food systems. In this episode, she talks about: How the food system needs to navigate the challenges of climate change, biodiversity loss, plastic and chemical pollution and food security Why tackling food waste is critical, with pioneering cases like Rice Inc in China; I also …
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23. Pessimism is a Luxury We Can No Longer Afford, with Kumi Naidoo
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My guest this week is Kumi Naidoo, Founding Chair at Africans Rising and former Secretary General at Amnesty International and Executive Director at Greenpeace. In this episode, he talks about why: Thriving requires a can-do attitude and intergenerational mentality that accepts that social and environmental justice is a struggle of a lifetime Frami…
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22. Exercising the Muscles of Sustainability, with Peggy Van Casteren
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My guest this week is Peggy Van Casteren, Head of SDG & Community Impact at J&J Benelux. In this episode, she talks about how: Sustainability is like a set of muscles in business, which need to be connected, exercised and strengthened The healthcare industry is evolving from a focus on curing sickness to early interception and prevention of disease…
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21. Making Net Positive the New Norm, with Andrew Winston
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My guest this week is Andrew Winston, co-author of Net Positive (with Paul Polman) and a globally recognized expert on megatrends and how to build companies that thrive by serving the world. How net positive – which means thriving by solving the world’s problems, not causing them – is different from what came before What the outside-in perspective …
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20. The Secret Revolution in Agriculture is Nitrogen, with Kelly Price
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My guest this week is Kelly Price, who is Co-Founder and CEO of Agreed Earth. Kelly talks about how: Our current economic model looks a lot like cancer – and why systems thinking is a way to change our metabolism as a species Food security is a challenge of distribution rather than production – and how regenerative agriculture can “feed the world” …
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19. Enabling Environments for Peak Performance in Work and Life, with Eddy Annys
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My guest this week is Eddy Annys, who is Managing Director of Randstad Belgium and a former Olympic athlete. Listen to Eddy talk about: His experience as a world class high jumper, and how peak performance by world class athletes is only possible by having an enabling system Why ensuring that everyone has an opportunity for meaningful work remains …
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18. Helping Farmers to Kick their Chemical Drug Addiction, with Charlie Curtis
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My guest this week is Charlie Curtis, who is Founder and Director of Progressive Agriculture Services and Head of Agriculture and Environment for the Cool Agriculture Alliance. Listen to Charlie talk about: How in developing countries offer many lessons on regenerative farming practices that can help to transform our food system in the global north…
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17. Regenerative Agriculture as an Investment Opportunity, with Antony Yousefian
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My guest this week is Antony Yousefian, who is the Founding Partner of ReFi Ventures and Advisor to Tech Nation. Listen to Antony talk about how: Conventional intensive agriculture is extractive, while regenerative agriculture is better for food security, resilience and health Innovation through regenerative agriculture can turn farming into a “her…
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Small Steps, Big Impacts with Masami Sato
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In today’s episode I talk to the award winning entrepreneur Masami Sato, who is the founder and CEO of B1G1. B1G1(also known as BUY1GIVE1) helps businesses around the world integrate effective giving in what they do. Today,B1G1 works with more than 3,000 businesses and these businesses have created over 300million giving impacts to date. Masami has…
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16. Innovation to Help Customers Become Net Positive, with Virginie Helias
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My guest this week is Virginie Helias, who is Chief Sustainability Officer at Procter & Gamble. Listen to Virginie talk about: Why the goal of thriving must be thriving for all people, not only for the few – and how innovation and collaboration are the key How licensing technology – such as digital watermarks to enable increased and improved plasti…
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Interview with Juliette Morgan - ESG Strategies
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In today’s episode I talk to Juliette Morgan. Juliette is a real-estate industry leader with 20 years experience of working internationally. Juliette has managed portfolios of millions of square feet in development and asset management, later focusing her career on ESG strategies in the built environment. Juliette is now a leader in Gensler’s Globa…
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15. Grassroots Solutions to the Biodiversity Crisis, with Douglas Tallamy
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My guest this week is Douglas Tallamy, who is the T. A. Baker Professor of Agriculture at the University of Delaware, where he has authored over 100 research publications and has taught insect-related courses for more than 40 years. His bestselling books include book Bringing Nature Home, The Living Landscape, Nature’s Best Hope and The Nature of O…
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14. Thriving in an Age of Disruption, with Micaela Patron
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My guest his week is Micaela Rizo Patrón, who is general manager of Perú Sostenible, a network of over 80 companies, which represents the World Business Council for Sustainable Development in Peru. Listen to Micaela speak about: What the more chaotic conditions and informal systems of developing countries can teach us about creativity and resilienc…
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Space-as-a-Service - A New Era in Flexible Workspace with Caleb Parker
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In this episode I speak with Caleb is an American entrepreneur based in London. He’s the founder of Bold, a Space-as-a-Service brand acquired in 2019 by NewFlex. Bold just opened a community for entrepreneurs, innovators and fast growing companies in Manchester, England and we’re recording this podcast in The XCHG, a white label community in partne…
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13. To Shared Value and Beyond, with Mark Kramer
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My guest this week is Mark Kramer, a Harvard lecturer and leading researcher, writer, speaker and consultant on strategies for social impact. He is best known as the co-author of seminal articles on creating shared value, collective impact, and catalytic philanthropy. Listen to Mark speak about: Why there is a synergy between successful companies a…
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What is ESG and its Importance in the Real Estate World with Wesley Thomson
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In this episode I speak with Wesley Thomson, the Head of ESG for UK and Europe for the global real estate advisory firm Avison Young based out of London. Wesley has over 17 years of experience in ESG and has advised Government, cities and large corporates across the globe on their decarbonisation journeys. The past 7 years specifically Wesley has b…
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12. Think Big, Act Small, Start Now, with Claire Maxwell, John North and Anders Aspling
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My guests this week are Claire Maxwell, John North and Anders Aspling, who make up the leadership team of the Globally Responsible Leadership Initiative (GRLI). They speak about: The critical importance of building trust and holding courageous conversations that help us navigate the liminal space between extinction and hope Why freedom, stability, …
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My Personal Journey: Building a Life in a New Country
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In this episode I am going to share my own story, from growing up in Mumbai to founding a boutique PE firm in London with my husband. We all have a journey to share, and we can all be an inspiration to others, which is why I think it’s important to open up. I explain why I became interested in engineering, what motivated me to move to the UK, and h…
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Build and Sell a Real Estate Business Successfully with Scott Murdoch
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In this episode I am joined by Scott Murdoch, Chairman of UK Retail at CBRE and the Founder/Managing Partner of CWM prior to the merger of the two businesses in March 2022. Scott brings vast experience and considerable expertise from the Commercial Property Industry where he currently represents a number of Landlord clients including Battersea Powe…
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Past and Future of Building Services with FHP Chairman Dave Forster
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On this episode I am joined by Dave Forster, the Chairman of FHP Limited – a dynamic property engineering and sustainability services support in the real estate space. FHP were, and still are, at the forefront of economic movement to private real estate investment and ownership. Dave started his career at the Brightside engineering company at age 1…
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Mentorship in the Ever-Changing Real Estate World with Vanessa Murray
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In this episode I am joined by Vanessa Murray, an Asset Manager for Stanhope Plc, property developer and investor who delivers large scale commercial and mixed-use construction projects across the UK. Prior to joining Stanhope, Vanessa spent eight years specialising in property management. After a very brief stint in rural surveying and a whirlwind…
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How to Lead & Grow Your Business with International Teams with Bernd Hake
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In this episode I am joined by Bernd Hake. Bernd brings deep experience in the luxury, consumer goods and technology sectors. Prior to his CEO role at leading energy drink company Red Bull, Mr. Hake served as Global Chief Commercial Officer of Hugo Boss, a leading fashion and lifestyle brand, following senior executive roles in business development…
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11. Changing the System From Within, with Steven De Haes
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My guest this week is Prof. dr Steven De Haes, Dean of Antwerp Management School. Listen to Steven talk about: Why shareholder-oriented business education can fairly be blamed for our previous global financial crises How self-awareness, global perspectives and societal consciousness are three pillars of responsible management education Why integrat…
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I'm Gauri Talathi-Lamb and this is Business of Building - a personal note from the leaders of today to the leaders of tomorrow. I am an engineer, project manager, business owner, CEO, wife and mother. I'm also an ordinary girl from an ordinary suburb in Mumbai, and I have had the absolute pleasure of meeting the most extraordinary and inspiring peo…
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10. Turning Food Waste into Value with Frankie Fox
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My guest this week is Frankie Fox, CEO and Co-founder of foodsquared.earth, and a founder on Cohort 2 of Carbon13’s Venture Builder for the climate crisis. Listen to Frankie talk about: How waste from industrial processes is a massive business opportunity for social and eco-entrepreneurs Why start-up venture incubators are critical for seeding and …
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9. One Life, One Mind, with David Lorimer
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My guest this week is David Lorimer, an educator and philosopher, program director of the Scientific and Medical Network and author of A Quest for Wisdom: Inspiring Purpose on the Path of Life. Listen to David talk about: How we can reframe education as “drawing out” rather than “stuffing in” – and why local action is a key to empowerment Why we ha…
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8. Remaking Fashion by Regenerating Cotton with Niccy Kol
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My guest this week is Niccy Kol, Brand and Impact Catalyst for Raddis Cotton, which is building the world’s first regenerative cotton value chain, and Ambassador for Waste2Wear. Listen to Niccy talk about: Why promoting recycled and recyclable textiles in a circular economy do not go far enough – and why natural fibres are better What it takes to c…
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7. The Force is With Us with Ervin Laszlo
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My guest this week is Dr Ervin Laszlo, a philosopher and systems scientist, Nobel Peace Prize nominee, founder and president of the international think tank The Club of Budapest, and author, co-author or editor of 106 books, including The Upshift. Listen to Ervin talk about: Why we are at a chaos point in society – and how that represents a positiv…
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6. Pathways to Dignity and Regeneration with Indira Kartallozi
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My guest this week is Indira Kartallozi, who is Founder Director of Sustainability Leadership Kosova and co-director of the Kaleidoscope Futures Lab. Listen to Indira talk about: How her own journey as a refugee brought insights into individual resilience and the challenges of diversity and inclusion in society What is necessary to support migrants…
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5. Redefining the Purpose of the Economy with Stuart Hart
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My guest this week is Professor Stuart Hart, who is the Steven Grossman Distinguished Fellow in Sustainable Innovation at the University of Vermont's Grossman School of Business, and author of "Capitalism at the Crossroads". Listen to Stuart talk about: - Why thriving is a revolutionary agenda – and goes to the heart of the real purpose of the econ…
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4. The Wisdom of Natural Intelligence with Leen Gorissen
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My guest this week is Leen Gorissen, founder of the Centre4NI and author of "Building the Future of Innovation on millions of years of Natural Intelligence". Listen to Leen talk about: - What natural intelligence means --- and how it applies to business and government - How termites and whales can help us to respond to climate change - What shiftin…
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