In AI We Trust? is a podcast hosted by Miriam Vogel of EqualAI where we survey the global landscape for inspiration and best practices in the AI space with an eye toward responsible, trustworthy AI. Each episode aims to answer a ‘big question’ as we speak to leaders in government, tech and civil society.
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AI Literacy Series Ep. 7: Dr. Andrew Ng on Scaling AI for Social Good
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53:10In this episode of In AI We Trust?, Dr. Andrew Ng joins co-hosts Miriam Vogel and Rosalind Wiseman to discuss AI literacy and the need for widespread AI understanding. Dr. Ng makes a call to action that everyone should learn to code, especially with AI-assisted coding becoming more accessible. The episode also addresses AI fears and misconceptions,…
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AI Literacy Series Ep. 6: Bridging the Gap Between Technology and Communities with Susan Gonzalez
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51:19This episode of In AI We Trust? features co-hosts Miriam Vogel and Rosyn Man continuing their AI literacy series with Susan Gonzalez, CEO of AI&You. The discussion centers on the critical need for basic AI literacy within marginalized communities to create opportunities and prevent an "AI divide." Susan emphasizes overcoming fear, building foundati…
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AI Literacy Series Ep. 5 with Judy Spitz: Fixing the Tech Talent Pipeline
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1:15:59Description: In this episode of In AI We Trust?, co-hosts Miriam Vogel and Rosalind Wiseman speak with Dr. Judith Spitz, Founder and Executive Director of Break Through Tech sheds light on the blind spots within the industry, and discusses how Break Through Tech is pioneering innovative programs to open doors to talented individuals. She gets more …
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AI Literacy Series Ep. 4: Mason Grimshaw on AI Literacy and Data Sovereignty for Indigenous Communities
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56:19Mason Grimshaw: the Power of Identity, Community, and Representation Description: Co-hosts of EqualAI’s AI Literacy Series, Miriam Vogel and Rosalind Wiseman are joined by Mason Grimshaw, data scientist at Ode Partners and VP at IndigiGenius. Grimshaw discusses his roots growing up on a reservation, and what led him to the field of AI. He explains …
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AI Literacy Series Ep. 3: danah boyd on Thinking Critically about the Systems That Shape Us
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1:15:24Description: Co-hosts of EqualAI’s AI Literacy Series, Miriam Vogel and Rosalind Wiseman sit down with danah boyd, Partner Researcher at Microsoft Research, visiting distinguished professor at Georgetown, and founder of Data & Society Research Institute, to explore how AI is reshaping education, social structures, and power dynamics. boyd challenge…
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AI Literacy Series Ep. 2 with Dewey Murdick (CSET): Centering People in AI’s Progress
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40:05Description: In this episode of EqualAI’s AI Literacy Series, co-hosts Miriam Vogel and Rosalind Wiseman sit down with AI policy expert Dewey Murdick, Executive Director at Georgetown's Center for Security and Emerging Technology (CSET) who shares his hopes for AI’s role in personal development and other key areas of society. From national security…
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AI Literacy Series Ep. 1: What is AI and Why Are We Afraid of It?
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25:45Miriam Vogel and Rosalind Wiseman break down the basics, the limitations, the power, and the fear surrounding AI – and how you can transform it from a concept to a tool in the first episode of the In AI We Trust? AI Literacy series. The EqualAI AI Literacy podcast series builds on In AI We Trust?’s global reach, focusing specifically on AI literacy…
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Senator Mike Rounds (R-SD): Sen. Rounds' 2025 Message: Why Every Senate Committee is Talking AI This Congress
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30:22In this episode of #InAIWeTrust, Senator Mike Rounds (R-SD) discusses the transformative role of AI and the Senate’s efforts to support its innovation and development. From working to advance AI-driven health care solutions to ensuring U.S. leadership in innovation, he shares legislative priorities and insights from the Senate AI Insight Forums and…
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Vilas Dhar (McGovern Foundation): AI for the people and by the people: Year-in-Review and 2025 Predictions
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36:34In this 2024 year-end episode of In AI We Trust?, Vilas Dhar of the Patrick J. McGovern Foundation and Miriam Vogel of EqualAI review 2024 and discuss predictions for the year ahead.By Miriam Vogel
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Elizabeth Kelly (AISI): How will the US AI Safety Institute lead the US and globe in AI safety?
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26:26In this episode of #InAIWeTrust Elizabeth Kelly, director of the U.S. Artificial Intelligence Safety Institute (AISI) explains the significance of last week’s National Security Memorandum (NSM) on AI, shares her experience working on the Biden Executive Order on AI, and provides insight into the US AISI including: recent guidance for companies to m…
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Michael Chertoff (Chertoff Group) and Miriam Vogel (EqualAI): Is your AI use violating the law?
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28:55In this special edition of #InAIWeTrust?, EqualAI President and CEO Miriam Vogel and former Secretary of Homeland Security Michael Chertoff sit down to discuss their recent co-authored paper, Is Your Use of AI Violating the Law? An Overview of the Current Legal Landscape. Special guest Victoria Espinel, CEO of BSA | The Software Alliance, moderates…
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Dr. Brennan Spiegel (Cedars-Sinai): AI in healthcare: Will AI help humans to thrive?
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22:41In this episode of #InAIWeTrust, Dr. Brennan Spiegel, Cedars-Sinai Director of Health Services Research and Chair of Digital Health Ethics, discusses his use of AI for increased efficiencies and to improve patient care, including co-founding Xaia, an AI mental health tool. He talks about the importance of human-centered design and how AI can enable…
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Russell Wald (HAI): Innovating for the future - Can academia bring the next wave of AI innovation and train our future generations?
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41:24In this episode, Russell Wald, Deputy Director at the Stanford Institute for Human-Centered Artificial Intelligence (HAI) underscores the importance of academic research around AI, key lessons from the AI Index Report, the need for uniform AI benchmarks, and the value of AI education for policy makers. Resources mentioned in this episode: 2024 AI I…
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Dmitri Alperovitch (Silverado Policy Accelerator): The role of AI in “Cold War II”?
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30:56Dmitri Alperovitch, Co-Founder and Chairman of Silverado Policy Accelerator and Co-Founder of CrowdStrike, joins this week’s episode of #InAIWeTrust to share his view that we are in the “Second Cold War” with China, the role of AI in this battle as well as in bio tech and other key sectors, and the role of government in this arena. To hear more fro…
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Scott Galloway (NYU): Wealth, influence, and AI in America: Will AI be a tool of societal control and who (should be) minding the store?
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40:42Scott Galloway, professor, entrepreneur, and best selling author, joins this week’s episode of In AI We Trust? to cover hot topics including: impact of AI on businesses as a “corporate ozempic,” the political influence of “shallow fakes,” the dangerous threat of AI on our increasingly vulnerable and lonely population, the role of business executive…
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Ylli Bajraktari (SCSP): Will the U.S. be AI-ready by 2030?
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38:21In this week’s episode of In AI We Trust? Ylli Bajraktari, President and CEO of the Special Competitive Studies Project, joins us to discuss the implications of AI on national security, geopolitical competition, what the US government can do to establish a foundation for success in AI leadership, and the upcoming SCSP AI expo in DC (May 7-8). ― Res…
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K.J. Bagchi (The Leadership Conference Education Fund Center for Civil Rights and Tech) Encoding Justice: Can we protect our civil rights in the AI age?
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33:17In this episode of In AI We Trust?, Koustubh “K.J.” Bagchi, VP of the recently established Center for Civil Rights and Technology, founded by The Leadership Conference Education Fund, discusses the impact of AI on democracy, including deepfakes and elections; the interplay between AI and privacy; and the state of federal civil rights actions on AI.…
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Shelley Zalis, the Female Quotient (FQ): Can we achieve equality through algorithms?
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27:00In this episode of In AI We Trust? Shelley Zalis, founder and CEO of The Female Quotient (FQ), joins us in celebration of Women’s History Month. Tune in to learn about the FQ’s Algorithm for Equality Manifesto, how AI can help close the gender gap and the whys of championing women in industry. ― Resources mentioned in this episode: The Algorithm fo…
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Helen Toner (CSET): How to govern AI in the face of uncertainty?
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35:04This week Helen Toner, Director of Strategy and Foundational Research Grants at Georgetown’s Center for Security and Emerging Technology (CSET), joins In AI We Trust? to discuss decoding China’s AI policies, AI’s role in warfare, the potential impact of AI agents, challenges around regulating changing technology, and how to approach AI evaluations.…
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Micky Tripathi (HHS): Is AI good for your health?: How HHS is approaching AI use to support innovation and reduce harms & inefficiencies in our health care system.
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35:57In this episode, Dr. Micky Tripathi, National Coordinator for Health Information Technology at the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS), shares how AI can improve patient care, current work at HHS to implement the WH Executive Order on AI, the potential risks that AI presents to the healthcare system and how transparency can improve AI out…
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Dr. Athina Kanioura (PepsiCo): How to change your employee “DNA” to harness the power of AI (Hint: upskilling)
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39:28In this episode, Dr. Athina Kanioura, Executive Vice President and Chief Strategy and Transformation Officer at PepsiCo, updates us on Pepsico’s pioneering steps in providing technology and opportunities to its workers and partners of all sizes, her wish list for AI and privacy regulation, and the measures she has instilled at Pepsico to establish …
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Andrew Ng: Should we fear an AI-driven existential crisis?
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43:52Join us this week with AI-pioneer, Andrew Ng (Founder of DeepLearning.AI, Landing AI, Coursera, General Partner at the AI Found, adjunct professor at Stanford University) as we discuss the likelihood of AI’s existential threat, the merits of regulation, the transformative power of generative AI, and the need for greater AI literacy. ― Resources men…
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Kent Walker (Google & Alphabet): How do we make AI safety the new norm? Google's approach to AI safety by design
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21:14Join us for our first episode of In AI We Trust in 2024 featuring Kent Walker, President of Global Affairs and General Counsel at Google and Alphabet. In this episode, we examine the evolving global regulatory landscape, discuss the launch of Gemini – Google’s latest and most advanced AI model, analyze emerging trends in AI capabilities, and delve …
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Raffi Krikorian (Emerson Collective): How to unleash AI “superpowers” for good?
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35:24Join us for a thought-provoking episode as we delve into empowering society with AI “superpowers.” In this final episode of the year of In AI We Trust?, our guest, Raffi Krikorian, CTO of Emerson Collective, shares his insights into the broader landscape of AI using technology to amplify societal impact. Discover his vision on how AI will impact el…
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Decoding Big Tech's Impact on AI: Insights with Ross Andersen of The Atlantic
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35:57Join us this week as we delve into the pivotal role played by big tech and its CEOs in shaping AI development and policies. Ross Andersen, staff writer at The Atlantic, offers exclusive insights into the recent changes at OpenAI and discusses AI's historical significance, China's geopolitical influence, and the phenomenon of “foomscrolling.”…
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Amanda Levendowski (Georgetown University): Can AI and copyright law coexist?
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38:50Georgetown University Law Center Associate Professor Amanda Levendowski, and guest co-host Karyn Temple, Senior Executive Vice President and Global General Counsel for the Motion Picture Association (MPA) and EqualAI board member, join In AI We Trust? to explore the protections and limits of copyright law. Tune in to learn more about training AI sy…
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Vijay Karunamurthy (Scale AI): How do companies safely unlock the value of AI? (Hint – through human touch!)
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38:35Vijay Karunamurthy, field Chief Technology Officer at Scale AI, joins this week’s episode of In AI We Trust? to discuss how companies can responsibly harness the benefits of AI, the necessary role humans play in that process, and how a diversity of expertise is key to developing functional guardrails. Tune in to hear more on evaluating AI systems a…
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Paul Rennie (British Embassy): Why do we need the UK AI Safety Summit (next week)?
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39:00Paul Rennie, the Head of the Global Economy Group at the British Embassy in Washington D.C., joins this week’s episode of In AI We Trust? to discuss the upcoming U.K. AI Safety Summit, the U.K.’s approach to AI regulation, and the international regulatory landscape of AI. Tune in to learn more about who is participating in the upcoming Summit, what…
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Victoria Espinel (BSA), Reggie Townsend (SAS), and Dawn Bloxwich (Google Deepmind): How can companies responsibly integrate AI into their businesses? (Part 2)
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39:18In part two of our special episode of In AI We Trust?, EqualAI advisors Victoria Espinel and Reggie Townsend discuss how they got into the field of AI, their involvement in the EqualAI Badge Program and their experiences guiding its participants, and, along with Dawn Bloxwich, discuss how companies can benefit from their co-authored white paper: An…
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Xuning (Mike) Tang (Verizon), Diya Wynn (AWS), and Catherine Goetz (LivePerson): How can companies responsibly integrate AI into their businesses? (Part 1)
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38:35In this week’s special episode of In AI We Trust?, we interview three of our EqualAI Badge Program alumni—Xuning (Mike) Tang (Verizon), Diya Wynn (AWS), and Catherine Goetz (LivePerson)—to discuss their journey’s in the responsible AI field, share their highlights from the EqualAI Badge Program and AI Summit, and underscore the main takeaways from …
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Rep. Ted Lieu (D-CA): Can Congress regulate AI?
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28:49Representative Ted Lieu (D-CA) joins this week’s episode of In AI We Trust? to discuss how Congress should approach AI legislation, the impact of generative AI, and U.S. AI efforts on the global stage. Tune in to learn more about Representative Lieu’s computer science focused approach to AI policy and more.…
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Secretary Michael Chertoff and Lucy Thomson (ABA): How is AI reshaping the legal landscape?
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50:42Tune into this week’s episode of In AI We Trust? with former United States Secretary of Homeland Security, Michael Chertoff, and Lucy Thomson (American Bar Association), to learn the ways in which AI is changing the legal landscape, how the ABA is tackling this issue (spoiler alert: we applaud the launch of the new AI TF), and to learn the Secretar…
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Sarah Hammer (Wharton School) and Dr. Philipp Hacker (European University Viadrina): Can AI accelerate the UN Sustainable Development Goals (SDGs)?
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59:22Professor Sarah Hammer, Executive Director at the Wharton School of the U. of Penn and leads Wharton Cypher Accelerator and Dr. Philipp Hacker, Chair for Law and Ethics of the Digital Society at the European New School of Digital Studies at European University join this week on In AI We Trust? to debrief their recent #AIforGood Conference. Listen t…
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Chair Charlotte Burrows (EEOC): Is your AI system violating civil rights laws?
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45:40In this week’s episode, we are joined by Chair of the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) Charlotte Burrows, who highlights the EEOC’s work to address AI proliferation in the employment sphere. She discusses the need to increase education of the public on how AI is being used, EEOC guidance on key civil rights bills such as the Amer…
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Kevin McKee (DeepMind): How does AI influence the core of being human?
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35:57Tune in to this week’s episode of In AI We Trust?, where Kevin McKee, Senior Research Scientist at Google DeepMind, discusses issues of AI fairness, AI’s impact on the LGBT+ community, and the balance between developing AI that humans can trust and the anthropomorphization of technology. Kevin leads research projects focused on machine learning, so…
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Chris Wood (LGBT Tech): How can we ensure our LGBT+ voices are heard through our data?
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45:00This week on In AI we Trust? Executive Director of LGBT Tech, Chris Wood, joins Miriam Vogel and guest-co-host Kathy Baxter for a special episode in celebration of Pride Month. Join this week’s conversation on the duality of technology for the LGBT community – how it can be an impactful medium to foster connection in the LGBT+ community or a harmfu…
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Gilman Louie (America’s Frontier Fund, CEO of In-Q-Tel, NSCAI Comm’r): How will we respond to this ‘Sputnik’ moment?
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53:24Gilman Louie is CEO and co-founder of America’s Frontier Fund, CEO of In-Q-Tel, and an NSCAI Commissioner. Tune into this week’s episode of In AI We Trust, where Gilman shares his thoughts on the government's role in regulating, funding, and convening key stakeholders to promote responsible AI. Gilman invokes similar moments of technological innova…
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Rep. Chrissy Houlahan (D-PA): How do we prepare Congress for the age of AI?
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30:01Meet one of the Bad A#%* women in Congress, Representative Chrissy Houlahan (D-PA). She is a trailblazer: a strong advocate for and accomplished practitioner in STEAM (science, technology, engineering, art and math) as an engineer, Air Force veteran, successful entrepreneur and former chemistry teacher. This week on In AI We Trust? Miriam Vogel and…
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Dr. Haniyeh Mahmoudian (DataRobot): Who should be involved in AI ethics?
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41:40In this episode of In AI We Trust? Dr. Haniyeh Mahmoudian, Global AI Ethicist at DataRobot, provides insight into the timely and critical role of an AI ethicist. Haniyeh explains how culture is a key element of responsible AI development. She also reflects on the questions to ask in advance of designing an AI model and the importance of engaging mu…
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Justin Hotard (Hewlett Packard Enterprise): Are local communities and data the key to unlocking better AI?
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40:14Justin Hotard leads the High Performance Computing (HPC) & AI business group at Hewlett Packard Enterprise (HPE). Tune in to In AI we Trust? this week as he discusses supercomputing, HPE’s commitment to open source models for global standardization and using responsible data to ensure responsible AI. – Resources mentioned in this episode: What are …
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Jordan Crenshaw (U.S. Chamber of Commerce): Can your company survive without AI adoption?
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38:01Based on the testimony of 87 witnesses from 5 field hearings across the US, the U.S. Chamber of Commerce bipartisan AI Commission on Competition, Inclusion, and Innovation released a report yesterday, addressing the state of AI. Tune in this week to hear the U.S. Chamber’s Technology Engagement Center (C_TEC) VP, Jordan Crenshaw share key takeaways…
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Elham Tabassi and Reva Schwarz (NIST): What's the big deal about the NIST AI Risk Management Framework (AI RMF)?
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50:21Elham Tabassi and Reva Schwartz – two AI leaders from the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) – join us this week to discuss the AI Risk Management Framework #AIRMF released on January 26th thanks to the herculean efforts of our guests. Tune in to find out why Miriam Vogel and Kay Firth-Butterfield believe the AI RMF will be game …
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Davos in Review: Should we hit 'pause' on generative AI?
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34:35The annual World Economic Forum (WEF) at Davos gathers leading thinkers in government, business and civil society annually to discuss current global economic and social challenges. This week, listen to WEF Executive Committee Member, our own co-host Kay Firth-Butterfield, and Miriam Vogel discuss why this was Kay's “best Davos yet”. Not surprisingl…
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Dr. Stuart Russell (UC Berkeley): Are we living in an AGI world?
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51:03Dr. Stuart Russell (CS Prof, UC Berkeley) has kept us current on AI developments for decades and in this week’s episode, prepares us for the headlines we’ll hear about this week @Davos and in the coming year. He shares his thoughts and concerns on ChatGPT, Lethal Autonomous Weapons Systems, how the future of work might look through an AI lens, and …
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2022 Year in Review: Are we ready for what’s coming in AI?
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33:53In this special year-in-review edition of "In AI we Trust?", co-hosts Kay Firth-Butterfield (@KayFButterfield) and Miriam Vogel (@VogelMiriam) take a look back at the key themes and insights from their conversations. From interviews with thought leaders, government officials and senior executives in the field, we explore progress and challenges fro…
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Dr. Suresh Venkatasubramanian (White House OSTP/Brown University): Can AI be as safe as our seatbelts?
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46:00In this episode, we are joined by Dr. Suresh Venkatasubramanian, a former official at the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy (OSTP) and CS professor at Brown, to discuss his work in the White House developing policy, including the AI Bill of Rights Blueprint. Suresh also posits on the basis for current AI challenges as failure of i…
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Joaquin Quiñonero Candela (LinkedIn): Can we meet business goals AND attain responsible AI? (spoiler: we can and must)
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43:56This week, Joaquin Quiñonero Candela (LinkedIn, formerly at Facebook and Microsoft) joins us to discuss AI storytelling; ethics by design; the imperative of diversity to create effective AI; and strategies he uses to make responsible AI a priority for the engineers he manages, policy-makers he advises, and other important stakeholders. — Materials …
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Deputy Secretary Graves (DOC) answers the question: Can We Maintain Our AI Lead? (spoiler alert: We are AI Ready!)
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38:22The Department of Commerce plays a key role in the USG’s leadership in AI given the multiple ways AI is used, patented and governed by the Department. In this special episode, hear from Commerce Deputy Secretary Don Graves on how the US intends to maintain leadership in AI, including through its creation of standards to attain trustworthy AI, worki…
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Carl Hahn (NOC): When your AI reaches from the cosmos to the seafloor, and the universe in between, how can you ensure it is safe and trustworthy?
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44:22Carl Hahn, Vice President and Chief compliance officer at Northrop Grumman, one of the world’s largest military technology providers, joins us on this episode to help answer this question that he addresses daily. Carl shares his perspective on the impact of the DoD principles, how governments and companies need to align on the “how” of developing a…
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Mark Brayan (Appen): For whom is your data performing?
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28:52In this episode, Mark Brayan focuses on a key ingredient for responsible AI: ethically sourced, inclusive data. Mark is the CEO and Managing director of Appen, which provides training data for thousands of machine learning and AI initiatives. Good quality data is imperative for responsible AI (garbage in, garbage out), and part of that equation is …
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