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Deep conversations about life, relationships, and recovery. In this personal storytelling podcast, licensed professional clinician, transformational speaker, and conversation starter Lisa Lackey will show you how to take the front seat in your life, to step out where you’ve been hesitant, and to move forward in being all that you and others have told you that you can’t be. All you have to do is be willing to show up in your own life the best you can, and come on in to join the conversation.
 
Who’s a wounded healer? It’s any one of us who works in a caring profession and is bravely doing their own work, while helping others. My goal is to share the parallel journey we as healers walk along with our clients and how we attend to our own humanity while caring for others. My podcast is about conversations and community building, what we can learn from each other, and how we can help heal each other. We’re cultivating a space where we celebrate vulnerability, authenticity and “showing ...
 
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“I feel like there's so many different aspects of being a hairdresser. It's like, you're an artist, you're a counselor, a psychologist.” ~Shimi Shiba If only someone could take the easy intimacy that hairstylists enjoy with their longtime clients and translate the magic into a formal therapeutic setting… Oh, wait! I’ve met such a person. In this ep…
 
“Maybe it's not about healing. Maybe it's just about being with people who are wounded too. It's maybe like wounded is we're alive together.” ~Claude Cayemitte Hello friends! This is the episode in which Claude Cayemitte, LCSW blows my mind -- by answering the wounded healer question in a way I’ve never heard before. So, who is Claude Cayemitte? He…
 
“Shame is the thing that keeps us from even admitting that there's an issue and that we might be complicit in it.” ~Erin Law I’m back from a brief summer respite with a total buzzkill for some of my listeners: healing from supremacy culture sucks! There’s no rest for the (white) weary while our Black brothers and sisters continue to fight for their…
 
As part of our "Archival August," we are re-releasing episodes from the past that have held specific significance for me recently, as I take some time for personal healing. This episode with David Clinton was really moving for me personally. David is from my same hometown and I don't know about you guys, but during the pandemic and everything that'…
 
As part of our "Archival August," we are re-releasing episodes from the past that have held specific significance for me recently, as I take some time for personal healing. Lisa Lackey, is one of the premier therapists in Chicago. And it's funny, I knew Lisa from afar for a really long time and kind of had put her on a pedestal. Early on, when we w…
 
Today I'm talking with producer and director Laurice Bell. We go way back to our roots in Evanston, IL. We begin this conversation with the word "Sawubana", a Zulu greeting for "we see you" to talk about being in community at these times. Laurice's podcast is Evanston Rules. Find it at https://www.evanstonrules.com *** Watch for our online course T…
 
As part of our "Archival August," we are re-releasing episodes from the past that have held specific significance for me recently, as I take some time for personal healing. This episode with Tanya Markul felt right to share right now because the world is going through a major transformation and all the shadows are coming to light so we can transmut…
 
I catch up with my dear friend, Dr. Julie Ann Gray, about what it's like to be a clinician during these times of shelter-in-place and the amplification of racism in our country. Julie's book Diva Five Alive: Letters to My Sisters is available now. *** Watch for our online course Teaching White People Empathy Subscribe here for courses, events, webi…
 
As part of our "Archival August," we are re-releasing episodes from the past that have held specific significance for me recently, as I take some time for personal healing. This episode was recorded in the very beginning of my anti-racism journey, a touching conversation at a pivotal moment. *** Mishara D. Winston, LCSW is a Black, queer, creative …
 
A quick note to let you know that I'm taking a break in August, and why. Never fear, I'll be back in September and in the meantime, we are revisiting some friends from previous episodes. *** Conversations with a Wounded Healer is a proud member of @mhnrnetwork. Let’s be friends! You can find me in the following places… Website: www.headhearttherapy…
 
“Having those wounds shapes you, but also lets the next person know that they can heal from their wounds.” ~Da’Jonese Turner Empathy + Empowerment = Resilience. That’s a standard formula for wellbeing, but without access, whole communities never receive the attention they deserve. That leaves generations of traumas and day-to-day anxieties unidenti…
 
I had the honor to join trauma expert, author and clinician, Dierdre Fay on her YouTube channel where she invited me to talk about the traumatic impact of racism. In this episode, you will hear some of my own experiences, some of the experiences of family members, some history, some hopes, and some challenges. While I agree 100% that policies, proc…
 
“I feel like everybody has healing qualities in one way or another. We all have gifts, right, and blessings and so I believe everybody... no matter who you are, has that.” ~Ryanne Bright With friends like Ryanne Bright MA, LCPC, CADC, it's a wonder we haven't yet solved ALL of the world's problems. But we're working on it! Ryanne is the co-founder,…
 
“I think it's just really trying to take time to just sit. You don't even have to close your eyes. Just sit in your home and just look around. What do you hear? What do you feel in your body?” ~Jay Taylor Heads up, beautiful people: My conversation with Sound Meditation Facilitator Jay Taylor was recorded waaaay back in the spring, the earliest day…
 
“We're all just trying to figure out a way through it and praying and hoping beyond hope that this hurt and anxiety we feel in these moments are actual birth pains that are about to birth for us something new and beautiful that we haven't yet imagined, or that we've imagined and have never, ever thought possible.” ~Anna Golladay Anna Golladay is a …
 
I must look. “To avoid pain is to avoid growth and challenge and to avoid looking is to lose an opportunity for empathy and to avoid looking is also to avoid being authentic in my emotional responses to racism.” ~Lisa Lackey A teachable moment... “While my intentions were good & my heart was in the right place. I unfortunately made a thousand error…
 
“The 12 steps are a return to the internal world...If you just do the cogs in a wheel, they will create an emotional rearrangement in you.” ~Veronica Valli Hundreds of people take shaky steps toward sobriety every day. Veronica Valli began her journey 20 years ago this past May. Like many, she credits Alcoholics Anonymous (AA) with helping her stay…
 
Insideout Conversations has a renewed purpose! My husband and business partner Steve Lackey and I want to really focus the conversations around healing and healing through empathy. And for right now, we're really looking at empathy as it relates to racism and all the things that are going on around it. So we're hoping to invite you into our convers…
 
“If you’re not talking about power, then you're really not doing racial equity work or inclusive work.” ~Brit Holmberg Brit Holmberg, MSW, LCSW, is a staff therapist at The Wellness Center of Loyola University and a longtime friend. He's also the co-creator, alongside his colleague Marion Malcome MSW, LCSW, of “Becoming An Anti-Racist Social Worker…
 
“You've got to set up the dynamic, which is, we can talk about absolutely anything here. I'm not going to judge you. I'm not going to shame you. I can take it.” ~Tristan Taormino Sex episode! Sexpisode? You decide. Either way, educator, author, and media-maker Tristan Taormino talks about the joys of her DIY career and what she wishes therapists kn…
 
“I hope that my work speaks from the scars and not the wounds.” ~Robyn Henderson-Espinoza, PhD Revolutions take work. The movement to dismantle supremacy culture rightly demands that much of the work be done off-camera, by those who benefit most from its proliferation. Robyn Henderson-Espinoza, PhD engages those willing to do the requisite heavy li…
 
~We decided to re-release this episode because we couldn’t think of a better voice to lead during this time. We have chosen to mute ourselves and support #amplifymelanatedvoices through June 7th. “We have inherited a system and there's nothing we can do about it except acknowledge that and dismantle it. But if we don't acknowledge it, then we are a…
 
Have you been noticing the different shifts that you have been experiencing since COVID-19 ? It’s been pretty interesting living & observing my highs, lows & in betweens. There’s so much to learn about myself, my relationships, habits and patterns that pop up in the midst of profound uncertainty. My hope for me and you, is that we remember we are l…
 
“I think the most transformative practice that I've come across is this ability to see that in all of our responses and reactivity and whatever it is we're all, deep down, these beautiful animals who wish that they could live in a world in which everyone's needs were met and everyone loved each other. And we all have that wish. And that's not the w…
 
I’m happy to share with you an amazing podcast called Back From the Abyss! Our latest conversation was with Dr. Craig Heacock where we spoke a bit about his experiences working with psychedelics in psychotherapy. This episode “MDMA and the Inner Healer” showcases the story of a client and his experience with the MDMA-assisted therapy sessions. It’s…
 
Have you ever met people and their energy just makes you feel better, even if you already feel good? My guests today are Dr. Martha Linn and D Anthony Evans, they are two that have that life giving energy. Their lives are full and their own medical crisis led them down a path of healing that they now share with others as they pursue health. In this…
 
“I've had a lot of losses and vicarious trauma in my practice and, I think, starting Back From The Abyss was also a way for me to put out just balloons of hope into the world and to remind myself that people do get better and people heal and people do the hard work of therapy.” ~Dr. Craig Heacock For every harrowing loss with which Dr. Craig Heacoc…
 
No one's ever had an experience in a pandemic. And so we are learning lots of new things and it's causing us to really have to pivot and change our views and, really consider each other in ways that may be different from pre Covid-19. This episode goes behind the scenes of this pandemic, exploring the impact of sheltering in place as a couple. Hell…
 
“Well, that could’ve gone better…” Ever leave a therapy session wondering where things went off the rails or what you might’ve done differently? Meet your new best friends Carrie Wiita and Ben Fineman, co-hosts of Very Bad Therapy! They dropped by to discuss their show and managed to turn the tables on yours truly with questions of their own! VBT t…
 
“We have inherited a system and there's nothing we can do about it except acknowledge that and dismantle it. But if we don't acknowledge it, then we are actually maintaining [it].” ~Derrick Dawson A conversation that eloquently connects the dots between capitalism and systemic racism? Straight talk about our American way of life and the foundation …
 
“Forgiveness is not a tool to heal trauma.” ~Nate Postlethwait Here’s the thing about my conversation with Nate Postlethwait: his story made this Wounded Healer all sorts of mad - in the best possible way! Buckle in because Nate’s journey from confused and closeted to out and authentic is a white-knuckle ride on the complex trauma rollercoaster. Th…
 
“The whole system was created to keep you distracted onto a battlefield. You could not have been put on this wonderful journey called life to fight. That could not be what we are here to do.” ~Monika Black What do you get when a leadership maximizer and the Wounded Healer get together to discuss light and shadow, happiness and shame? A roadmap to j…
 
“You do your personal work. We really believe that we’re the change agents and we can't take our clients anywhere we haven't gone.” ~Adena Bank Lees Adena Bank Lees, LCSW, LISAC, BCETS, CP is an accomplished speaker, author, experiential trainer, and consultant working in traumatic stress and addiction. She’s a leading authority on, and advocate fo…
 
“I look at it kind of like “ally”, right? I would prefer that other people would call me a healer rather than me calling me a healer. Just like I would prefer people calling me an ally rather than me calling myself an ally” ~Chris Hoff Where to begin with Chris Hoff, PhD, LMFT? Do I start by introducing you to The Radical Therapist, his highly bing…
 
I’ve tried meditation but...eff that! Sound familiar? If meditation’s super-precious, über-enlightened rep has put you off in the past, Sarah’s guest Liza Kindred is here to reintroduce you to the practice - using language that this wounded healer is down with! Liza is a wearable tech consultant, a trauma-informed meditation instructor in training,…
 
“I'm very grateful for the wounds that I have acquired in my life. And I see now how those wounds were openings to something greater.” ~Gregory Koufacos The patriarchy, amiright?! They’re an easy (and rightfully) targeted group. However, there’s an entire generation growing up under the influence of our current system. What are we - therapists and …
 
“Each person is uniquely designed and each person is part of a big, giant puzzle of humanity.” ~Robin Winn This episode is like...your brain on pure, vibrational energy. Robin Winn, veteran therapist, Human Design specialist, and the best-selling author of Understanding Your Clients Through Human Design, chats with Sarah about how this relatively n…
 
"I've been freaking out about this lately, and I saw on The Today Show yesterday, one of their medical experts said, “we have to remember that this is temporary.” And as soon as I heard that, there was something in me that took a breath and was able to pause and stop freaking out for just a moment." ~Sarah Buino Sarah offers insights and practices …
 
“It’s hard to ask people to be comfortable with confusion. To let people sit in that a little is a challenge for most of us but vitally important. I see growth happening in discomfort.” ~Chuck Bernsohn Pronouns are powerful. And comfort is overrated. In this episode, Sarah chats with Chuck Bernsohn, advocate for LGBTQ+ and chronic illness communiti…
 
How do you show up when you’re a therapist (or therapist-in-training)? It’s this existential question that formed the foundation for The Modern Therapist’s Survival Guide, a podcast created by Katie Vernoy and Curt Widhalm. If you’ve ever struggled with the prevailing wisdom that therapists should exist in session only as blank slates, you’re not a…
 
“Sometimes, we need permission to be as awesome as we are.” ~Sarah Prager You know that old saying about strangers being friends you just haven’t met yet? This episode is exactly that. Sarah Prager LPC, LAC, is the clinical manager of co-occurring treatment at AllHealth Network Colorado as well as an EMDR practitioner and a Daring Way facilitator. …
 
A flight attendant and a music teacher walk into a podcast… But not just any podcast, mind you. This is CWH’s 100th episode! To celebrate, OG listeners Rachel and Margaret join the show to get giggly and get deep. They bond over their favorite episode (10!), and turn the tables on Sarah with a few questions of their own. Tons of fun, loads of a-ha!…
 
There are thousands of online personality tests, all designed to help you uncover your type -- or, at least provide an inventory of adjectives that probably, maybe, sort of describe you. The Enneagram is not a modern survey or sliding scale of attributes. Nor is it a superficial list of words. It’s a system with ancient roots based in sacred geomet…
 
“I feel like the Millennial generation...we’re very into breaking the generational curses.” ~Lauren McBride Behind the strong black woman archetype are millions of women seeking balance; safe spaces in which they can let down their guard without shame, fear, or judgement. Lauren McBride, LCPC, is poised to destigmatize mental health self-care in he…
 
“Out of suffering have emerged the strongest souls. The most massive characters are seared with scars.” - Kahil Gibran Taking care of others? That’s the easy part: shining a light so others can find their own way. But taking care of ourselves? Well… when the self is shrouded in shadows, the wounded healer can get lost in the dark. **Trigger warning…
 
“I use the same thing with offering mindfulness to people: you don't need to go right in to look at Medusa's eyes, you know, grab a shield... feel your feet on the floor and look around the room. Have a guide. Don't go into that bad neighborhood alone.” ~Joe Clements Joe Clements is a sought after mindfulness meditation teacher and host of the hit …
 
“Wounded healer points back to something that we both hold really sacred, which is like, we're all human beings here. And we're never not human beings as long as we're in one of these things called the human body.” ~Brooke Thomas Vanessa Scotto is a Counselor, meditation teacher, and Chinese Medicine practitioner whose work integrates spirituality …
 
“My role in this program is to create fertile ground. That's it. And then what I'm going to do is rely on the fertile ground to do the work of growing the plants. And so rather than being the guy that's growing the plants, I'm just creating the framework for that to happen.” ~Jeremy French Jeremy French is a maker. He's made lots of cool things - a…
 
"That’s our humanity: our capacity to feel things that much.” ~James McDonald What happens to someone with an opioid addiction? Popular debate currently limits their recovery to two outcomes: a lifetime of fruitless struggle or death. Why don’t we hear more and talk more about addicts getting better? Of addicts living meaningful lives? Those are th…
 
Sarah discusses the heartbreak, the gratitude, and the deep learning that comes from trauma work and difficult life circumstances. Let’s be friends! You can find me in the following places... Website: www.headhearttherapy.com/podcast Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/WoundedHealr/ https://www.facebook.com/HeadHeartTherapy/ Instagram: @headheartthe…
 
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