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We believe that George R. R. Martin has put a lot of effort and thought into creating a deeper dimension of archetype and symbol in his writing. He’s created connections between past and future, between sky and ground. He’s built on classic figures from world mythology and twisted them around in new and incredible ways to fashion his own archetypal characters whose divine roles are played out by the characters in the story. He’s done all of this not only to be artistic and clever, but becaus ...
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Tracie and Emily are two sisters who really love the show Lucifer. We're rewatching the series two episodes at a time and taking the time to illuminate the deeper meaning of the crime-solving devil tv show. Yes, we are overthinking it. WARNING: There are definitely spoilers. If you haven't watched the whole series (all 6 seasons), listen at your own risk!
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Lucifer means Lightbringer hosts a periodic live discussion panel with a rotating cast of guests focused on the A Song of Ice and Fire series by George R. R. Martin and occasionally HBO's Game of Thrones. Topics can range from specific plot elements like the Dawn Age or Tower of Joy to more general subjects like religion's role in the story to more 'meta' angles such as world-building or the unreliable narrator. Sometimes more adult topics having to do with sex, violence, race, class, gender ...
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“Family Dinner” and “Bloody Celestial Karaoke Jam” deliver both some of the funniest and some of the most poignant moments of the whole series. With a general appreciation for the relatableness of so much of what happens between characters in these two episodes and a very specific appreciation for Tom Ellis’ collarbones, the Guy sisters overthink t…
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Jon's recurring crypts dream that he can never quite finish? I think there's going to be a dragon at the end of it, and I have a theory about how and why, as well as a new theory about where dragon dreams come from in the first place. The Pact of Ice & Fire and the "Winterfell dragon" are also discussed, as well as how Jon will e a dragon waking fr…
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On rewatch, the Guy girls were reminded just how much they compartmentalize their memories about these two episodes. “Our Mojo” and “Spoiler Alert” provide delightfully fun and funny moments intermixed with grim details of the serial-killer-right-under-our-noses storyline. The sisters spend time teasing out the phenomenological and metaphorical mec…
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“Detective Amenadiel” and “Blue Ballz” are the only two episodes in this whole experiment that the sisters watched while in the same room, and they contain some of their most beloved and most reviled of the whole series. In their meanderings, the Guy girls think about the metaphor of reflection as used both visually and rhetorically in “Detective A…
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The layers of meta-commentary in the episode about a TV show where the actual devil is a consultant with the LAPD is lots of fun, and has the sisters wondering if Lucifer would have been more offended on Chloe’s behalf by turning her character into a stripper-turned-detective who doesn’t seem to be particularly bright. And the return of Lilith in a…
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Sothoryos, land of monsters and mystery - what in the Green Hell happened here? I'll explain it all - toad idol, fish people, Yeen and the Brindled Men, velociraptors and wyverns and basilisks, settlements by Old Ghis and Valyria, and a new origin theory concerning the Summer Isles.By David Lightbringer
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In our conversation about “Really Sad Devil Guy” & “Lucifer! Lucifer! Lucifer!” we think a lot about the tropes and short cuts that come from soap opera storytelling. And we don’t hate it. Both sisters are impressed with Tom Ellis’s ability to make us believe he is, in fact, his own twin (even down to his butt cheeks!). Tracie picks apart a key plo…
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“Save Lucifer” and “Who’s da New King of Hell?” allow the Guy Girls to overthink everything from acting vs. directorial choices, to the nature of sin and guilt, to the possibility of a “happy ending” for an immortal being in love with an all-too-human one. Tracie couldn’t wait to start the episode with her frustrations with Lauren German’s delivery…
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“Devil is as Devil Does” and “Super Bad Boyfriend” give some hints that the writers were wrestling with their copagandistic vehicle. However, there were also moments in these two episodes, especially in Chloe’s voice, that oversimplify the “rightness” of human justice. That they made these explorations around the death of a Black teenager is all th…
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“Expire Erect” (Die Hard, get it?) and “Orgy Pants to Work” turn out to be fantastic fodder for the Guy Girls’ particular brand of overthinking, and we did not hold back. Tracie had some THINGS to say about the mythology of Lilith (Maze’s mom), which led to some questions about who (and how) Lilith even is, and whether or not Lucifer could have bee…
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“O, Ye of Little Faith, Father” and “All About Eve” bring some of Emily’s favorite moments of the whole series. The first provides deeply satisfying dramatic irony through Father Kinley’s (Graham McTavish) web of deception, the whole of which, only we the viewers see. The second gives delicious comfort to a devastated Lucifer (Tom Ellis) who fears …
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The big news: HBO is partnering with writer Mattson Tomlin to develop an Aegon's Conquest show! I've got 5 big questions relating to where the most drama is, what characters besides the 3 conquerors could be featured, the dynamic of the Conquerors themselves, and more.By David Lightbringer
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“Everything’s Okay” and “Somebody’s Been Reading Dante’s Inferno” contain one of the sexiest scenes in the whole series, some really comprehensible character behavior, and some mediocre delivery of that behavior. The sisters spend a disproportionate amount of time gushing over the first several minutes of “Everything’s Okay,” only to ease into an a…
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“Boo Normal” & “Once Upon a Time” interrupt the flow of the Deckerstar storyline. These two episodes, though both boasting solid storytelling, tend to get skipped, fast-forwarded, or otherwise maligned by fans who cannot wait to find out what happens after Chloe unequivocally learns the truth in “A Devil of My Word.” Tracie and Emily take some time…
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“Quintessential Deckerstar” & “Devil of My Word” are so packed full of goodness to unpack we had to make notes for our conversation to make sure we didn’t miss anything. When it comes to storytelling, these episodes provide some deeply satisfying (and tear-jerking) character development, especially for Dan (Kevin Alejandro), Charlotte (Tricia Helfe…
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Fish-human hybrids ARE absolutely real in A Song of Ice and Fire. There are several populations of hybrids around the world, including small pockets in Westeors, and at least three prominent characters may be under their psychic influence - Patchface, Damphair, and Euron. Deep Ones cult turns out to be one of the oldest human religions in Westeros,…
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When you aren’t binging, “Anything Pierce Can Do I Can Do Better” & “All Hands On Decker,” are painful episodes to watch. Lucifer’s obliviousness is torture to Chloe Decker, who simply wants to be seen and loved. Tracie gets her Toms mixed up, Emily cannot abide the notion of a 20-min delay in Los Angeles, and the incongruous hair texture of actor …
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Our no-spoilers preview & ranking of all dragons on House of the Dragon! We'll give you the 411 on the dragons of Team Black and Team Black AS WELL AS the 6 unclaimed dragons on Dragonstone! HotD playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEHvft-cyPmDKN99XRXTtoHGCy1fHGHNXBy David Lightbringer
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“Orange is the New Maze” and the “Angel of San Bernadino” provide some interesting character development for Maze and some reminders that Lucifer is, in fact, the devil. Emily explores the ADHD-esque behavior of both Lucifer and Maze (hyper-fixation, missing social cues, etc) while Tracie appreciates Lauren German’s acting (for once). In true Guy G…
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Finally, some answers on the Ironborn! We've done the work, now let's connect the dots - on the Seastone Chair, the First Men who became Ironborn, the origins of Pyke and House Greyjoy, even the identity of Grey King's Mermaid wife and leal elder brother! AND a theory about the origins of House Casterly! Whew! Disaster Hunters playlist: https://you…
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“Let Pinhead Sing” & “The Last Heartbreak” make for some satisfying overthinking. Tracie and Emily delve deep into literal and figurative mirroring in the show, the sociological and evolutionary benefit of Tom Ellis’s devastated face, and the need for another character to alert the audience to the so-called romantic chemistry between Pierce (Tom We…
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“High School Poppycock” and “Infernal Guinea Pig” are fun episodes with some serious overthinking potential. In conversation about “High School Poppycock,” Emily relates her experience unhinging her jaw and swallowing the Twilight series whole. In fact, that brief conversation on Emily’s thoughts about Twilight became the pilot for the Guy Girls’ o…
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“Til Death Do Us Part” and “My Brother’s Keeper” provide some delightful storytelling and some missed opportunities around the world’s first murderer and his relationship with the devil. In the first of these paired episodes, Emily notes the similarities to an X-Files episode where Scully and Mulder pretend to be married in suburbia, and both siste…
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“City of Angels?” and “All About Her” have us thinking a lot about tv writers’ short cuts and senses of humor. The first, a pre-season-1 prequel, provides some believable and some less-believable canon origins for show staples. On the plus side, we get some mostly-naked scenes of Amenadiel (DB Woodside), but there is no interaction between Lucifer …
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Tracie and Emily agree that though there is some satisfying humor in “The Sinnerman” and “The Sin Bin,” these are not two episodes that either like to revisit. Not only does the plot in both episodes fail to hang together, but Tracie has a visceral reaction to eye-related injuries, and the sisters struggle with the lack of accountability for Chloe,…
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“Off the Record” and “Chloe Does Lucifer” provide a pattern interrupt, but keep things moving forward in season 3. Emily and Tracie find that “Off the Record” hits some satisfying storytelling notes, including big reveals, dramatic irony, and some meta-commentary about hell loops from within a hell loop. And while “Chloe Does Lucifer” gives us some…
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The ancient Ironborn traditions of salt kings and rock kings, and of the high kings appointed by the kingsmoot all date back to the era of the Grey King, when mariners from across the Sunset Sea merged with local First Men to create the Ironborn people. That's why there's nothing like the Kingsmoot anywhere else in Westeros, and why salt and rock k…
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Prepare for an all new conception of how the Ironborn nation came into being! I’ve discovered some truly incredible Ironborn worldbuilding secrets - yes, new ones, and even more incredibler. @GreyWasteTim joins me to help explain the Great Empire of the Dawn connections to the Ironborn in this video, with more to come this week! And yes if you are …
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“Welcome Back, Charlotte Richards” and “Vegas with Some Radish” give us some interesting back story on pre-Goddess Charlotte and card-counting Ella. We also get a nice blend of physical humor and satisfying writing. In the episode 305, We see our writers having their cake and eating it too as they critique the over-sexualization of consumer adverti…
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There's a reason for all the Bolton flaying in the story: it's not only horror and cruelty, but also the key to ancient magic which enabled the Boltons to rival the Starks for thousands of years. I will explain to you here in this brand spankin new Bolton theory, and yes this has to do with the Faceless Men.…
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What do the Others do with Craster's sons, whom he gives them as "offerings?" How does this unholy practice sustain the Others existence? How does it work, and why the weirwoods like magical drinking straws for the Others to... yeah this one is gonna get a bit gnarly, fair warning.By David Lightbringer
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These two episodes serve as a pattern-interrupt and then re-establishment of Lucifer’s dickishness in Season 3. Turns out there were very practical reasons for the pattern interrupt (they were filmed out of sequence) and also some storytelling beats that affected their reception (some of the choices and dialogue in 304 make sense only when looking …
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One part ancient mariner from across the Sunset Sea, one part rowdy First Men, and what do you get? The secret prehistory of the Ironborn. Tha's right, our Ironborn disaster hunters video has spawned a whole series, and in this video, you can find out about the Grey King and the two cultures who merged to become the bloody pirates we all know and l…
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The first two episodes of many fans’ least favorite season have the Guy Girls meandering on a wide range of topics. We move from some straightforward continuity questions (How is Lucifer able to be sunburned? And how did he not lose Amenadiel’s necklace when he was kidnapped?) to observations about the treatment of faith and hope (Ella humansplains…
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These final two episodes of Season 2 have Tracie and Emily taking long walks tangential from the episodes themselves. These include Tracie geeking out over the nature of divinity in the Hebrew scriptures, Emily waxing poetic about the fashion of the 1990s, and both sisters drooling a little over the Morningstar boys. They also spend some time think…
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An episode featuring a murder set in an exclusive private school sets off some OPINIONS from Emily about what really matters in education and the inherent classism built into mom-shaming. She also shares the surprising theory that children are really just three puppies in a trench coat. Meanwhile, an episode in which an emanation of the Divine inha…
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In discussing these two deeply satisfying episodes Tracie and Emily have deep resonance with some plot points as well as moments of downright confusion. The delightfully complicated and not-who-she-seems Candy Morningstar (Lindsey Gort) makes it clear we should never underestimate women just because they fit into a stereotype. This makes the moment…
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Sometimes, Tracie and Emily have so much overthinking to impart, they make lists so as not to miss anything. This is one of those times. “Stewardess Interruptus” and “Love Handles” have one of Lucifer and Chloe’s sweetest moments and one of their sexiest. These episodes force characters and audience rearranging mental furniture around Lucifer’s sex…
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“Homewrecker” and “Quid Pro Ho” have us thinking about the inherent chaos of the goddess of creation and destruction, and the nature of chaos. How much of chaos is simple messiness, and how much of it is destruction? Or is it something else altogether? We’re also struck by how refreshing it is to see a competent woman on screen just being her badas…
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“My LIttle Monkey” and “Welcome to Stabby Town” offer both humor and pathos, and have the sisters deep in our feelings. Lucifer continues to flail in these episodes after Dr. Linda’s reaction to his devil face in the last episode. Her reaction, which he reads as rejection, is confirmation of his own self-loathing, which Lucifer himself articulates …
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In really good television this season, we meet some new folks and new relationships. The Weaponizer/Body Bag franchises become a pillar of background ideas and images–and the initial basis of Lucifer and Dan enjoying one another’s company. The short arc of Uriel the angel/villain leads to a reflection on what makes a “good” villain, what a fantasti…
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These two episodes of Lucifer prove to be the jumping-off point for intense conversations. Recorded not long after Kyle Rittenhouse (the white teenager who crossed state lines and killed Black Lives Matter protesters) was acquitted, Tracie and Emily are thinking about punishment, justice, and the ways in which inherited paradigms can sometimes obsc…
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Who are the Ironborn? Where did they come from? Are they just First men who are good at fishing and hate farming, or do they come from a lost land across the sea... or from the watery halls of the Deep Ones under the sea? Disaster Hunters of Ancient arrives at the Iron Islands, where we'll hunt sea dragons, storm gods, squishers, and seafaring stra…
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The first two episodes of season two we meet new, key characters: the Goddess of Creation (in Charlotte Richards’ body) (Tricia Helfer) and Ella Lopez (Aimee Garcia). We also get the first appearance of Lee Garner, a.ka. Mr. Said-Out-Bitch (Jeremiah Birkett). As we dig into these two episodes we go deep into the source material for the notion of a …
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In these beautifully paired episodes, we get to relish in the villainy of Malcolm (Kevin Rankin), aka “Detective ‘Stache,” giggle at the caricature of Lucifer the Satanists present (there’s a lot of goat imagery!) even as we feel for the bereaved in the case-of-the-week procedural story-arc. Betrayal is a key theme in these two episodes, with many …
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Why did the First Men change their religion and begin worshipping the Old Gods of the weirwood? Why did they sign a peace treaty with the children of the forest when they were wining the war? I've got a great answer for you, and I'll also explain the real origin of the Night's Watch and generally just straighten out the timeline - but it might be a…
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