Biracial co-hosts Sara & Misasha - two wickedly smart, funny, compassionate best friends - have very mixed-race children between them, and are personally invested in helping to uproot systemic racism. Weekly episodes include interviews of people whose stories you might not often listen to; deep dives into history, psychology, and current events to explain why we are where we are as a country; and actions that you take right now to make change in your spheres. We're not perfect, but we're rea ...
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244: Why We Need to Take Trump At His Word (Don't Look Away)
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You know that person you know - the one who exaggerates everything? It’s kind of like that story of the blameless “boy who cried wolf” who lives in fantasy land and never takes responsibility for anything - and this person seemingly has not only the best life anyone could ever imagine, with loads of money, tons of friends, amazing vacations, but al…
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243: High Five, Friends - Where We’ve Been and Where We’re Going
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This week marks the FIVE-YEAR anniversary of the Dear White Women podcast! That means we’ve outlasted almost all the other podcasts out there… like ya knew we would. From those first few episodes released altogether on April 15, 2019, to now… it’s been quite the ride. This year, in order to kick off year SIX (!!!) of the podcast, we thought we’d de…
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242: How to Have Compassionate Dialogue, with Dr. Nancy Dome
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If you know us, you may know that we LOVE a good conversation - even if it’s uncomfortable or difficult. But this year, as we head into what seems to be ONLY conversations that are uncomfortable or difficult, how do we best do that? If the idea of even talking to someone now gives you pause, then this is the episode for you. The connection quality …
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241: Why Should We Care About “Being Political”?
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“Oh, that’s so political.” “We don’t talk about politics here.” “Stop being so political.” Have you heard that before, when someone brings up a topic that may have been mentioned in the news (or on social media)? Maybe you’ve even been the one that said it. But - have you ever heard it explained what exactly “political” means in this context? Or wh…
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240: Why Should We Care About Baseball? (Hint: It's About Civil Rights And Humanity)
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If you’re listening to this episode around the time when it’s being released, then you’ll be listening to this right on the last day of Black History Month in the United States. It should go without saying that Black History is American History, but we’re going to say it anyway, and we’ll add that it shouldn’t be confined just to the shortest month…
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239: Why Should We Care About Presidential Immunity?
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In honor of Presidents’ Day coming up next week, we thought we’d focus on president…ial immunity. See what we did there? With this episode, we’re kicking off a new “why should we care about…” series on DWW where we focus on the WHY behind important issues, so that we go into November making the most informed decisions we can about the candidates AN…
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238: Of Greed and Glory: The Master-Slave Dynamic Pervades America
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You know when you have a conversation that provides you with a framework of a problem – one you may not have even known existed – and it opens your eyes in a whole new way? Yeah, today is one of those conversations. Because it helps look at questions like this: Do we really know what freedom is? How about liberty? And if we don’t know what those co…
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237: Helping to Dismantle or Uproot Systemic Racism Does Not Always Have to Be Heavy
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It can be as simple - and meaningful - as picking up a fiction novel, reading it, and discussing it with your book club. Because once you see, hear, and learn, we don’t think you’ll ever be able to “go back to how it used to be.” You’ll change. You’ll do things differently. You’ll make ripple effects happen. Change is not a one-size-fits-all phenom…
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236: DEAR WHITE WOMEN – Happy New Year 2024
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Akemashite Omedetou Gozaimasu! Happy New Year! We like to split this episode, one we have done every year at this time of year for the last four years, into two parts – reflections and projections. You’ll want to listen so you don’t miss how to stay involved in what’s next for us, the podcast, and 2024 as a whole. What to listen for: Our history, i…
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235: It’s Not Race, It’s Racism: Raising Multi-Ethnic Families, with Naomi Raquel Enright
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One of the things that we find most rewarding about our own journeys in anti-racism, racial justice, and social justice is when we come across practitioners who come from a similar framework that we do (heart-centered, humanity first, believe people when they tell you their stories, and all of those things) but also challenge us to think more broad…
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234: HOW to Have Uncomfortable Conversations, 2023 Version
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When you think about the holidays, what image comes to mind? Sitting around a holiday table with friends and family? Spending time with loved ones? Watching some holiday movies, sipping hot cocoa, and all the warm holiday fuzzies? Or is your reality more like that of a lot of Americans, especially this 2023 holiday season: uncomfortable or downrigh…
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233: Hearts Recognize Hearts, with Ryan Alexander Holmes
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If you heard our last episode on the myths surrounding Black-on-Asian crime, you heard that narratives pitting one historically marginalized community against another is a tactic sometimes used to distract us from the real enemy that we all should be focused on (hint: it’s white supremacy). It helps when we deconstruct the facts and look at real st…
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232: DEAR WHITE WOMEN: The Common Enemy Is White Supremacy
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You know the viral videos - the ones showing Black people, usually men, attacking unsuspecting Asian folks, usually elderly Asians. These are atrocious, awful incidents of course. We don’t want anybody to be harmed. AND, since we can hold two thoughts in our heads at the same time, we also need to state that these viral videos are giving us an inac…
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231: Schuyler Bailar, the Man Behind He/She/They
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When we’re asked to do anti-bias talks at corporations, we’re sometimes asked by the different ERGs if we’re comfortable talking about LGTBQIA+ issues - and we answer with our truth, which is that we are both cisgender, heterosexual women who use she/her pronouns. Nobody in our families is LGBTQIA+. So while the skill sets to tackle bias are relate…
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230: Mixed Asians and Immigration: It’s Not A Simple Story
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You heard us talking with Alex Chester-Iwata the other week on the show, who is third-generationJapanese American, and was the first family member in decades to visit Japan. So, maybe like some of you listening, she has no direct experience with immigration – your family feels like it’s “always been here” in America. That experience that Alex has o…
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229: Mixed Asian (Media) with Alex Chester-Iwata
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When you turn on the TV or open a book, or look for memes on the Internet… how easy is it to find someone who looks like you? Your family? Because it’s never been that easy for us. So when today’s guest, who started her own media company called Mixed Asian Media out of her OWN frustration over not being represented out there, came across our radar,…
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228: Multiracial Asians - It’s Time to Get Personal
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DEAR WHITE WOMEN - Multiracial Asians - it’s time to get personal Why is talking about the multiracial identity and deconstructing the misperception of the Asian monolith important and relevant to you listening, if you’re not multiracial? Several things. Census information - over 10% of the population identifies as multi-racial, but will changing d…
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227: Reimagine Inclusion with Mita Mallick
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We do this work for our kids, and for ourselves. And when we talk about this work, there are a lot of spheres we need to change to make this world better for said kids - including schools, kitchen tables, policing and the false idea of law & order, public services, government, and the workplace. And, to focus on workplaces for a second, we always t…
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226: Birmingham, Bending Toward Justice, And Hope, with Doug Jones and Bill Baxley
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They say never meet your heroes, but we’re so glad we got to meet two of ours, as they gave us the shot of hope at the end of our conversation that we all need, considering everything that’s happening around us currently. To be honest, we had been looking forward to this conversation ever since David Louie (Episode 212, if you want to go back and l…
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225: The Humanity Archive, with Jermaine Fowler
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If you know us, you know that we love to focus on our shared humanity - in other words, the threads that bind us together, those common traits regardless of anything else, the things that make us human, after all. And so when we discovered our next guest, we felt like we found a kindred spirit - after all, his whole platform is called The Humanity …
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If someone talks to me (Sara) about summer reading, honestly, my brain first goes to fiction novels. I love them, and I have been noticing that if they’re particularly well-written, I end up learning a whole lot about humanity. And the book we’re highlighting for you today is just one of those phenomenal book experiences. We’re excited to bring to …
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Our notes for this conversation with Christine, before we had it, were this: expect this to be a casual vibe, hilarious interaction, lighthearted fun conversation! We would say that was EXACTLY what this was, in a nutshell. We went into this thinking we’d probably discuss some stuff like her upcoming book(s), plans, and more. But it really was more…
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222: The First, The Few, The Only with Deepa Purushothaman
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We’re so excited to kick off our summer book club with this amazing book: The First, The Few, The Only. When we interviewed Deepa for this episode, we remember being so excited to talk to her about this book because, while we’ve talked about a lot of books written for White people to learn more about race and racism, it’s not often that we come acr…
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Did you miss us last week? We missed you! Listen in to this week’s episode in order to hear some exciting updates, a small podcast look-back, and what we have planned for this summer . . . What to listen for: After four years of weekly shows and 220+ episodes later, we’re moving to a new release schedule – releasing every other week! Why? This lets…
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220: A Sound bowl Healing Session, with Christina Ifurung
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As we’ve discussed on the show, as biracial people with Japanese immigrant parents, anti-Asian hate is something we’ve had to be even more keenly aware of over the last few years. Even beyond that point of tension, let’s be honest, the world is just a lot - for everyone - nowadays. So we wanted to present you with a gift. The gift of connecting wit…
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