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The Second Chapter

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A reminder that it’s never too late to start your next chapter. On The Second Chapter, serial careerist Kristin Duffy chats with women who started the second (or third... or fifth!) chapter in their careers and lives, after 35. You'll find inspiring stories, have a few laughs, and maybe even be motivated to turn the page on your own second chapter! The Second Chapter is brought to you by Slackline Productions- a company dedicated to telling the stories of women over 35 through theatre, film ...
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Happy 2024! I've got an amazing episode for you this week: Welcome back Jen Zwinck, Kelly Dunham, and Amanda Cupcake. Toward the end of the year, I asked some of my favorite guests and yours of 2023 to share a little bit about what they've been up to since they've been on the podcast and maybe share a bit of wisdom or thoughts that they have about …
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The Five Theatre Girls: five women from Doncaster, who were never professional actors but just performed on one of Great Britain's most revered stages. Sandra, Christine, Ruth, Sharon and Sally were part of The Odyssey: The Underworld at the National Theatre of Great Britain, the culmination of a project that has brought amazing change to all of th…
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For Alison Wearing, experiencing a big change at age 12, her father coming out as gay in the 1970s, led to big changes in her adult life as well. Alison and Kristin talk about how Alison became a writer after failing English in school, how the dismissal of her second manuscript led to her taking the stage, and how letting go of the labels that defi…
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Amanda Rudd, aka Amanda Cupcake, started out in fashion but the fast pace and stress led to anxiety and health problems. She did something she thought she'd never do (listen to the podcast to find out what!), which has allowed her to discover that sometimes the best fashion model is a cupcake and success isn't always what we think. For more on Aman…
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Joanne Hardcastle's unexpected midlife success as an interiors guru and content creator led to, amongst other things, her appearance on Interior Design Masters, interior design's answer to the Great British Bake-Off. Joanne's current chapter, which she's calling "the fun chapter" of her life, only happened after the ups and downs of life, love, and…
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Despite a "having it all" life in New York City, under the surface, Amber James was anything but happy. A pandemic, two health crises, and a family death led Amber to take a risk, blow up her life, and start all over again. "I think that's why I'm sharing my story now is I want other women to be able to tell their stories, to find their voice, take…
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Christie Hayward is living in two worlds- the one that she loves to reminisce about and share with audiences in her show, Memories of the Early 1950s, and the one where she’s checking things off her bucket list, including presenting the show at her first Edinburgh Fringe at age 77. And it’s not just performing- Christine is busy running a plant bus…
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A limb difference at birth meant Kim Hughes' confidence was shaken at an early age. Years in a career that just wasn't right for her and a lifetime struggling to settle, finally changed after a relationship catastrophe in her forties. Now 51, Kim has gone to the front of the class literally (she's a yoga teacher!) and is letting go of judgment, mai…
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PODCAST EPISODE RECOMMENDATION! This is the second half of the 100th episode of The Second Chapter, also known as episode 101. Kristin is back with the seven guests she spoke with last week, some of your listener favourites from the first 99 episodes of The Second Chapter. If you haven't listened to the first part of this conversation, it's also re…
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For The Second Chapter's 100th episode, Kristin is joined by not one, not two, but seven of her former guests. These seven women are some of the podcast listener's favourites - an array of exciting and insightful women who have changed their careers and/or lives after 35. Joining for this special episode are: yoga instructor (and then some) Louise …
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Judy Foreman's life changes have happened through her journey from childhood abuse to empowerment. After an abusive childhood, Judy discovered the unyielding spirit that led her to peace. In Judy's latest book, Let The More Loving One Be Me, she takes us through a journey over 70 years covering her growth, deep fulfilment, rewarding work, and most …
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Jennifer Andrews was a speech therapist ready for something different. A gift from a young client provided the spark and led Jennifer to using her love of connection to found treppie.com Treppie is an online e-commerce marketplace for girls and young women, ages nine to 25 (or so) to sell their unique handcrafted products in a community-based and m…
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Matilda Leyser is the author of No Season but the Summer, a novel that combines the Greek Persephone myth with modern day England, climate change, and, ultimately, a story about mother-daughter relationships. But being a novelist is just one of her second chapter stories, after running away from words to join the circus (amongst other things!) Mati…
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In this, my last episode of season nine, I'm speaking with Patricia Stallworth. The subject of money is one that many of us are uncomfortable discussing, which is why I loved having Patricia as a guest! After her own divorce, which led to some painful money realisations, Patricia now helps others, especially women, plan for their financial futures.…
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'Traumatic overload' destroyed Marci Warhaft’s self-esteem and left her grasping for control - leading to years of eating disorders, promiscuity and doing things that she wasn’t proud of to survive. In her book, The Good Stripper, Marci chronicles a double- or even triple- life: mother of two by day, stripper by night, and obsessed fitness fanatic …
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Absinthia Vermut's love for art history and unusual parties led her to an event in 1996, where she tried absinthe (illegally) for the first time. Fast-forward to the legalisation of absinthe in the US and Absinthia is channeling her passion for the notorious "Green Fairy" into making award-winning small batch absinthe. But she's also doing things h…
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Kelli Dunham is a standup comic, a registered nurse, an author, a storyteller, and... wait for it... an ex nun. Kelli's website says, "I don't know how all of this came together on a resume", but I've done my best to find out, though there is so much beyond what we got to speak about*! Having lost two partners between the ages of 38 and 43, Kelli i…
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This week I’m speaking with pizza artist, Miriam Weiskind. Formerly a graphic designer... ahem, brand strategist... Miriam found a way to combine two of her greatest loves, running and pizza, in a way she never expected. It led to a totally new life of pizza tours, pizza paying it forward and pizza making, getting her through a bad break-up and the…
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Lyn Yeowart has been a writer for most of her career, but decided to go back for a creative writing master's degree some 30 years after graduating with an education degree. But Lyn's biggest change may have been something that was less to do with writing and career, and more to do with self and worth. Lyn is the author of The Silent Listener. Prope…
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Jane Griffin is a former BBC and ITN television and radio news reporter with over 25 years of combined experience in journalism, corporate communication, B2B PR, and crisis communication. Thanks, in part, to a nudge from a former manager, Jane launched her own PR business, Positive Story - not just putting a positive spin on business-to-business PR…
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Kim Carpenter is a keynote speaker, executive coach, author, creator of World Changing Women and founder and CEO of People at the Center. Much of Kim's job is taking a stand for good business and making the workplace more humane but before she could help others align their own lives and values, she had to align her own -- something that required se…
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Widowed in a brutal fashion at 35, Jen Zwinck took some unusual steps to start her second chapter - steps that included moving with her two-year-old to a small Caribbean island. Now Jen has found her "why" through Widow 180 podcast and the Widow Squad- working with other widows to come together, learn new ways to travel the path through grief and u…
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Like so many previous The Second Chapter guests, Liz Bieler followed the path she was told to follow, and for a long time, gave up a creative life she craved. Since letting her creativity flow -- and boy did it flow! -- she's become a jazz singer, a voiceover actor, and now an author with Alice in Condoland now available, and more books coming soon…
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This week Kristin is speaking with Kate Oakley. Kate is the founder of Your Future Fit. After 25 years in HR, she's fired up to help women with their physical and mental health in peri- and post-menopause. She realized she wasn't too old to start at 50, and she's on a mission to make this stage of her life- and yours- the best. You can find Kate @y…
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When Covid Lockdown squashed her fledgling business, a recruitment agency aimed at helping over fifties get back into the workplace, Stephanie Oram started writing. The result, Wax, Whips and My Hairy Bits- An Erotic Comedy of Errors, written under pen name SJ Carmine, has been as high as number two on Amazon's best bestseller list, and has started…
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Katharine Esty has had her fair share of chapters and is now living as an 80 something, which is also the title of her book, Eightysomethings- A Practical Guide to Letting Go, Aging Well, and Finding Unexpected Happiness. Eightysomethings includes interviews and advice on life in your eighties, how to have difficult conversations with parents and r…
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Martina Clark has lived a fascinating life, taking her to 90+ countries, seeing her in the room with world leaders, activists, and educators, and now as a writer, with her book, My Unexpected Life, an International Memoir of Two Pandemics, HIV and Covid 19. Martina had several major changes after 35, an age doctors never even expected her to see. S…
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Johanna Elizabeth left a career as a midwife to become a photographer, now specialising in boudoir photography for women. But it's so much more than pictures in lingerie. Kristin speaks with Jo about her lifetime of empowering women and helping them to feel seen and how her own diagnosis of autism at 47 is now helping to empower her. For more on Jo…
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Christine Errico was born with a cleft lip and palate. She spent much of her life feeling bullied alone and in denial. This week, Christine speaks with Kristin about her various career and life changes, and how she found the confidence to leave an abusive marriage, speak up about her cleft, and start advocating for, and coaching, others with birth …
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Kristin was truly inspired by her guests on The Second Chapter in the last year and heard from loads of you that you were, too. She asked some of her guests to continue to inspire by sending a brief message sharing a goal/resolution/plans or advice for 2023. Enjoy hearing a few familiar voices again and a bit of their wisdom for the brand new year!…
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Allison Miller 'slipped' out of being an actress and into being a lawyer, and then kind of slipped again into buying a summer camp with her husband in order to spend more time as a family with their four-year-old. What Allison didn't know is that all of those slips would lead to her current missions camp, collaboration, creativity, and coaching. Th…
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Suzanne Mahoney was leading a life many of us dream of, first as a chef, and then happily running her own successful bakery. But it was Suzanne's idea for a product to help people with hidradenitis suppurativa, a medical condition that she herself suffers from, that led her to 'close her eyes and leap'... leaving behind baking, moving across Irelan…
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We've all dreamed of being a rock star, right? In this episode, Kristin speaks with Cathy Loughead and Steph Smith of the garage punk band, Velvet Crisis. Cathy and Steph are self-described "normal" women... except they happen to be in their 60s and newly in a punk band. Thanks to Ruth Miller and her Unglamorous Music project, women like Cathy and …
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This week I have not one, but two, amazing guests, Babs and Laura Horton. When first woman and first playwright Plymouth Laureate, Laura Horton, tweeted that her mum's first play was premiering on a Tuesday with Laura's on less than a week later -- in the same theatre! -- I knew I wanted to hear their stories. There were a lot of firsts to ask abou…
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Change is good, right? So, after 75 episodes of The Second Chapter, maybe a change is in order. In this week's episode, Kristin recaps season 7, talks about how career change at a later age is finally making its way into the media and asks YOU for ideas. What's next for The Second Chapter? Links to articles and other bits mentioned in this episode:…
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From Overwhelm to Ease, PlanSimple Founder, Mia Moran Mia Moran is a mom of three and coach who has struck her perfect balance between motherhood, wellness and work. Mia's second chapter wellness adventure began about 12 years ago during a health crisis when she understood the power food could have on her health, her connection with her kids and he…
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Not Just a Tick Box, Pharmacist Turned Comedian and Actor, Lubna Kerr This week, I’m speaking with Lubna Kerr. Divorce, death and her own health scare have brought about big changes in Lubna’s life, but it was confusion over a comedy class that led her to her biggest change yet. Now, having mostly given up a career in pharmacy, Lubna is an actor, a…
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Sometimes it takes a new country, birthing a tiny human and a pandemic to start your next chapter! This week I’m speaking with Judith Keys- and we’re talking about two of my favourite subjects FOOD and new paths in life. Judith ended up in a secretarial role after school to start earning some money and got kind of stuck. It took moving to France, t…
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Danielle M. Orsino has kicked ass throughout her life... literally. Starting as an international award-winning martial artist, and now as a writer of high-fantasy novels, Danielle and Kristin discuss how her short career as a nurse led to writing, how she ended up on her book covers and why women have a place in the male-dominated world of high fan…
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Helping Career Shifters to Teach Now (with her company Now Teach), Katie Waldegrave This week, I’m speaking with Katie Waldegrave. Katie has had various career shifts of her own, both as a teacher and a writer. However, her current calling is helping other "second-chapterers" (aka career shifters) transition into teaching through her organisation, …
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From Hungover Widow to Available As Is, Debbie Weiss This week, I’m speaking with Debbie Weiss. When Debbie lost her childhood sweetheart at 50, she was forced to take a look at her life and start asking what SHE needed to be happy. When she finally started dating again, she found that many of the men she encountered weren’t it - and there were eno…
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This week I’m speaking with Clara Harris of Swamp Witch Studio for the last in my Women of the Fringe series. Clara took her live audio drama, This Moment in America to this year’s Edinburgh Fringe Festival. Seeking a deeper conversation, This Moment in America features ever-changing vignettes drawn from real stories across the US, interwoven with …
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For this special Women of the Fringe episode, I'm speaking with Paula David. Paula tried to please her mother by studying accounting, but performance and eventually motherhood was in her blood. A singer, writer and actor amongst other things, Paula brings her solo show, Blood, Sweat, and Vaginas about female sexuality, menopause and self-discovery …
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The Second Chapter special Women of the (Edinburgh) Fringe episodes! Ever wondered how someone really ends up running away to join the circus? This week I'm speaking with Shayna Swanson, who fulfilled the stereotypical parental nightmare, forgoing a "traditional" career and joining the circus. But years of performing also led to years of struggle w…
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The Second Chapter special Women of the Fringe episodes! This week, I’m speaking with Cynthia Shaw. Cynthia grew up in a small town in Colorado playing classical piano. After moving to new york as a student, she has continued throughout her life to add strings to her bow- going from musician to singer, actor, writer and performer. This month, she p…
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Desk jobs, and horses and dogs, oh my! This week, I'm speaking with Pauline Holmes. After 10 years at a desk job that hated, Pauline finally was free to pursue life beyond the desk. But a seriously scary horse-riding accident meant that she had to rethink her life and career once again. Now, Pauline is a 60-something poet and storyteller with the "…
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Say it with me: You're NOT too Old for That! This week I’m speaking to Vicki Larson. My chat with Vicki is SO topical this week in many ways. We talk about her book, Not Too Old for That: How Women Are Changing the Story of Aging and through it talk about: how we, as women, need to take ownership of our bodies and our health learning about investme…
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Mastering JOY with Masterchef winner, Irini Tzortzoglou What a guest I have for you this week! Irini Tzortzoglou spent eight years in a marriage because she thought she could grow to love someone and 30 years in a career she originally entered because she didn’t want to seem ungrateful. At 60, after a suggestion from second husband, Irini discovere…
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Let the episode be gin! This week, I'm speaking with Ellen Wakelam. Ellen was a teacher, but after becoming disillusioned with the role -- and reeeeeally long walk -- she and her partner started In the Welsh Wind, a distillery firmly based in her native Wales. I love this episode, almost as much as I love In the Welsh Wind's (seriously)tasty gin. E…
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When's the last time you learned a new sport? Moved to a new country? Wrote your own solo show? This week, I'm speaking with Erin Hunter. Although Erin has acted her entire life, she wrote her first solo show after 35 (in a new country, while learning to surf). And I'm so excited to announce that I'll be producing her show for the Edinburgh Fringe …
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