ana007: Citizen of Nowhere | Part 2: Joe’s Immigration Ordeal


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Drawing on Joe’s own immigration experiences, we dig deeper into the “Freedom of Movement” conversation and discuss green cards, spouse visas, citizenship, immigrant enclaves, sidewalk entrepreneurship, book clubs, and “Moral Turpitude.”

Part 2 of the Citizen of Nowhere Series.

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Episode 007, therefore Bond parody.

Theatrical trailer for 007: Citizen of NowhereVoiceover: Adam Litwin – Check out his upcoming Sci-fi/Comedy feature film Soul Frackers

Theme from 007: Citizen of NowhereVocal: Tim and Joe’s Dad


Joe’s a hypocrite

From Australia to the US

US visa

Two weddings for the price of two

I don’t know much, but I know I love Helium Karaoke

Green Card – A straightforward process? 00:08:41

I-485 Form: There are no stupid questions, only stupid bureaucrats:

“That was more of a movement”

Was it an Oprah Book Club?


Moral turpitude


Communist or Fascist – Democrat or Republican?

Genocide – What happens in Niagara…


A Nazi

Who would say yes?

I-864 Form

The best place to get Tuberculosis

Fiancé visa

In limbo for months

Forced to marry

Guys with forms and guys with guns

The interview

Government buildings assume everyone coming in the door is a potential threat – just like at the border.

Prove your love – we had TWO weddings!

Muriel’s Wedding

Commingled finances

Six months and $1,800 for a green card

Received, only to relinquish

Back to Australia

Tip your movers

All those summers of back breaking labor finally paid off


Bike and skis – the sunk cost fallacy in action

The miracle of logistics companies

Customs declaration

Perfect timing

Joe’s Australian spouse visa 00:36:50

Australia – everything’s a little more bureaucratic

Documenting six years of Joe’s international travel

Original birth certificate?

Paperless visas cause confusion – Visa Entitlement Verification Online (VEVO)

Joe’s kids’ dual citizenship

“They were born Australians, but they were made Americans”

Wait a few months for your appointment to wait some more

Traveling to Melbourne to do paperwork

Thwarted by Tiger Woods

Incidental costs of passport / visa / citizenship processes

Nameless public servants

Batching applications

Joe’s Australian citizenship 00:50:30

A bonus for podcast listeners!

Why become a Australian citizen?

A leg up in the job market

Easier to start a business

Foreign Investment Relations Board (FIRB)

Fearing nationalist revolution

Fearing nationalist bigotry

An American Spy?

Doing the paperwork – again

Finding a “referee”

HAZOP interruption

The interview – again

The test – arbitrary trivia

In government approval processes, the actual proof of knowledge and character is minimal. The bureaucracy of the process itself is what weeds people out.

The citizenship ceremony

Pledging allegiance

Benefits of citizenship

The right to be forced to vote

Voting silliness

The right to be forced to be on jury duty

More voting silliness

Auction your vote on ebay?

The right to be forced to join the military

That’s about it

Dual citizenship

Australians think Joe is Canadian

Tax Implications 01:13:07

Only two countries collect tax on foreign income of non-resident citizens. USA and Eritrea – an elite group

What taxes has Joe signed his kids up for?

US Citizens have to file tax returns for TEN YEARS after renouncing citizenship.

FinCEN form 116: FBAR – Foreign Bank Account Reporting, or “Fourth Bloody Amendment Repealed”

US Citizens have to report any foreign account valued over $10,000

Penalty for not submitting the form is the greater of $10,000 or HALF of the unreported assets. So much for unlawful seizure.

How many terrorists fill out their FBAR forms?

FATCA – Milking the offshore fat cats, and everyone else

Tax evasion vs. tax avoidance

The Panama Papers – Hypocrisy of politicians

Tax havens – created by onerous tax laws

Unintended consequences of immigration controls 01:32:11

Are illegal immigrants renegade libertarian heroes?

Anchor babies

Prohibition of immigration forces immigrants to live outside the system

Same-sex couples could be forced apart

Stateless people – real Citizens of Nowhere

Everywhere they go is ruled by a State – that’s the problem

Prohibition of immigration creates dangerous industry of human trafficking.

Eliminating prohibition of high demand goods and services eliminates profit centers for criminal organizations.

Nauru: Australia’s “Pacific Solution”

Now Australia has its own prison island!

Indefinite detention

If you’re paying to support people anyways, why not let them in so they can work?

Socialism + Open Borders => Ultra-Nationalism

Ultra right-wing groups are exclusionary National Socialists

Left-wing groups are inclusionary International Socialists

Nazis were Socialists too!

International socialists are deluded in thinking that socialism is sustainable

National socialists are deluded in thinking they can save it

Effects of mass immigration on the built environment 01:58:53

Immigrant enclaves facilitate integration.

Integration vs. assimilation

Immigrant enclaves create support networks for new immigrants.

Cultural conflicts can be better mitigated in an anarchic society than in a state

Sidewalk entrepreneurship

Coconuts, granola, motoconchos, and Kung Fu Panda 3

The importance of public space

Homesteading public use of space in an anarchic society

Community gathering spaces


Businesses within the home

How immigrants can thrive

Many of the things people do to get by in poorer countries are prohibited by zoning, building codes, licensing, and other restrictions in western countries.

Main Streets created by commercial additions to residential buildings

This isn’t trickle down economics – it’s “Build up”

How governments prevent immigrants from thriving

Immigration controls

Zoning prohibits certain uses

Zoning creates sprawl and reduces pedestrian traffic for small business

Building codes restrict uses within buildings

Restrictions on boarding houses

Granny flats / in-law apartments

Occupational licensure prevents immigrants from doing skilled work

Bigotry, Xenophobia, and Racism

The market puts a cost on discriminatory practices

Supporting a “right” to not be forced to associate or disassociate with anyone else does not equal support of racist beliefs.

“So there, we just solved racism!”

Next episode: A borderless world is a stateless world. What does this look like, and how do we get there?


Why Joe Became an Australian Citizen

Muriel’s Wedding

They’re a Weird Mob

Another Aussie who came to the US

Immigration and Crime – What the Research Says

Sweden’s ultra-nationalist (and socialist) vigilantes

How cultural enclaves overcome bigotry, and thrive

The CATO Institute does excellent work dispelling common anti-immigration myths:

Why Unemployment Is Lower When Immigration Is Higher

Low-Skilled Immigrants Are Still Not Harming Low-Skilled Natives

Visa Caps Are Protectionist Occupational Licenses on Steroids

After Welfare Reform, Immigrants Thrived Without Federal Benefits

How to Select Refugees for Private Sponsorship

U.S. Muslims Become More Socially Liberal As Muslim Immigration Rises

Muslims Rapidly Adopt U.S. Social Values

Muslim Immigration and Integration in the United States and Western Europe

The Choice: Legal Immigrants or Illegal Immigrants

Common Arguments against Immigration

Immigration and Terrorism

New Research Finds that Immigrant Crime Is Still Low

The “Vesper” martini:

“A dry martini,” [Bond] said. “One. In a deep champagne goblet.”“Oui, monsieur.”“Just a moment. Three measures of Gordon’s, one of vodka, half a measure of Kina Lillet. Shake it very well until it’s ice-cold, then add a large thin slice of lemon peel. Got it?”…“Excellent … but if you can get a vodka made with grain instead of potatoes, you will find it still better. Mais n’enculons pas des mouches”From “Casino Royale” by Ian Fleming

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