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Find your voice - Episode 11 - My Little Spartan - Michael V Kalisperas #11
Tagline: "Unleash your inner spartan..."
Apologies in advance for the sound quality on my end. Technical issues certainly played their role. But in true spartan fashion we kept going.
Michael Kalisperas life turned upside when his son was hit with a number of health conditions due to the neglect of a midwife. Sadly his beautiful son's life had changed which would have a knock on effect to Michael and his family.
However determined to not let this get him down, Michael continued to take action and let his excuses be a thing of the past. Realising his own excuses and rationales to avoid doing the hard stuff are so insignificant compared to the battles his son, and daughter face on a daily basis he ensured he crushed his goals.
A successful property investor, an author, a father and loving husband Michael story is one which touched my heart.
I reached out personally when I first heard his story because he genuinely changed my whole perception on the way I view my life or sometimes feel about my own situation.
I urge you all to ignore the sound defects, which I take full responsibility for and listen to this incredible man's story.
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[Music]
welcome to an episode of find your voice
a movement led by yours truly
Aren do a guy who has overcome
crippling anxiety adversity and
difficulty like so many of you in life
whose main goal now is to help you
combat your excuses take control of your
life write your own story and most
importantly find your voice so now
without further ado I welcome the host
of the show himself mr. Aren do what's
going on people thank you for tuning in
to another episode of find your voice my
name is Aren and as always I am the
host of the show so it's very rare that
I will stop a podcast especially at the
end of it just to kind of find out who
the individual is now I'm not saying I
don't get inspired or motivated by
people but generally speaking I'm just
kind of excited for the next podcast
however on this particular occasion a
few years ago I actually pause the
podcast towards the end of the show now
the only problem was I still had the
rest of my car journey to go so I was
kind of sitting in silence but it was
worth it because I really wanted to send
a message to this individual who I'm now
very grateful to have on my podcast and
I sent a message out to Michael to kind
of say thank you for the inspiration for
the motivation and more importantly I
hope things really do progress a little
bit easy for him I suppose in life and
speaking to him in this interview it's
difficult to say how things got easier
but one thing I can say is that he's
attitude is still the same he's
willingness to just go out there and
take action and not be a victim of his
circumstances is fantastic and that's
kind of what this podcast is about it's
about eliminating your excuses it's
about pay with the cards that you're
dealt with it's about literally thinking
okay this is what's happened now how do
I change this how do I go out into the
world and really find my voice and kind
of write my own story so I think I'm
going to leave it there
I just want to say before it starts I
did have some teething issues with the
Wi-Fi so we actually have to do a zoom
core where
which was fine for videos but
unfortunately some of the Sam when I was
editing it back wasn't quite as clear as
I had hoped because I was using my
laptop speaker as opposed to my mic that
I'm now recording this intro with so
hopefully you can bear with this because
I think more important than the sound
quality is the message and the story
behind Michael's life so without further
ado let's get this interview on the way
okay so I am here today with my course
obviously I want to say thank you
Michael for taking time out of your day
and there how are you doing today young
I'm very well thank you
good stuff good stuff so I think it's
important for the listeners to really
start to understand your story from
yourself so if you could please explain
how you progress through life yeah sure
progress through life as it seems like a
I'm 42 in them in literally a couple of
weeks time so it's February you know so
not long I'm gonna be 42 so other know
where to begin to go through the whole
life scenario but I've done quite a lot
of things I guess I could go back to
even school where I would say I was
probably not the best at school and not
really someone that was a you know in
these special sets as they call him
because I wasn't really interested in
school I didn't feel the vibe at school
I just didn't you know bond with the
teachers if I'm being honest but my life
completely changed where when I went to
college and you meet a different type of
teacher and different environment and it
was a bit more more creative more my
feeling you know what cuz I've always
come from a creative background I've
always been like an artist as such and
then I ended up pretty much ending up
going to to university ended up at de
Montford University and doing them so we
call multimedia design and marketing
basically which was basically it was
multimedia and I left there and a lot of
my friends ended up in the 3d world from
from from those sort of forces and ended
up her kind of like playing games for
Sony Playstation so I'm got a real while
yeah got really good friends I'm quite
well in that and then and I ended up
basically showcasing my work they they
asked for a few people to earn
to showcase their work at an exhibition
in London I think it was the Olympia I
can't remember the actual name of the
venue from being asked me so many years
ago and it was a big place and and they
had about I don't know six of us the
showcase our stuff so they picked people
that they wanted to showcase at this
show and it was just like a sort of like
greatest show and Khaitan story short I
got a head hunted by my boss back then
Charla Crais for the BBC ended up
working at the BBC basically doing
designs and websites for them and yeah
we touched on many many areas it was
within a group of people as a lot of
these companies are and so I was in the
designer group and basically design
websites ranging from Teletubbies to
crime watch Top Gear yeah yeah very very
very very very varied set of you know
even like you know History Channel maybe
we've seen so it was really it was a
department called fracture and learning
back at the time I think they've got rid
of the actual Department have something
else it's called a different name now
yeah and I was in and I didn't stay
there as long as I could of I decided to
leave I don't know what it was I come
from originally London actually
ironically but most of my life was
brought up in a small village called
Mulford where they've got the movin
hills and more than spring water and all
this kind of thing and it is a bit like
house on the prairie kind of thing and
as when I lived there I can't wait to
get out and you know escape and get into
University and all that sorcerer and and
meet people and but when you go to the
like concrete jungle and kind of think
on what god what is this AZ yeah yeah
it's kind of like we start realizing you
know my dad says it is well he lived in
them the most of his life I actually
came over here with nothing I mean he
literally had no money for shoes he
literally came with nothing from from
Cyprus and he started up and he's done
well for himself through hard graft and
he he said to me I will I won't go back
to London even if someone pays me you
know you
not because he doesn't like London
didn't love it you just just just found
a different vibe somewhere else simple
as that and I think for me it's the same
find different vibe I still go to London
often I'm going for five days literally
in the next day date in half I'm going
there for five days you're going in out
of business and meet people and you know
so yeah it's a it's I love it a little
bit but to live there it's a different
world he's in it
different world I lived there bought a
house on the outskirts of it was a was
well II did the Olympics actually now
really wish I didn't sell it I ended up
selling it because I got squatter's you
believe that I so that's my first true
investment and actually that property
now is worth about seven hundred
thousand I bought it about 115 I think
it was i sold actually actually i only
had it for a year and I sold it but I
made 40k profit in that point that's lo
que ya I can't complain and it was a but
still I can't complain absolutely my
point of doing it in keeping up was I
always I always thought back there I
used to watch location occasionally all
those programs and I always wanted to
build my own house I just wanted might
get buy land above my house and you know
obviously working in London you know
you've got to be pretty sorted you know
sign up and bloody you know 23 years old
or whatever was coming about what and
you know the reality is that to buy land
in London
absolutely from some guy in Morphin you
know
and yeah just bought that property no
the plan was to keep it but
unfortunately got screwed over yeah yeah
and I was kind of like I just lost the
will to live my eyes I have to get rid
so yeah ventually got rid of them and
they trashed it as well because although
I Franky refurbished it and they trashed
it which was really nice of them
but hey and it's one of those and it I'm
back in it now yeah back into property
well I wanted to do it quicker if I'm
being honest with you I bought my own
house back in Melbourne after I sold my
my house there
bought my own house back in well when
that was brick building you know
something come up whilst we're coming
out of the recession a boy at the
recession period which was the worst
thing can do I look because I'm so
paranoid I was stuck on a high
fixed-rate back of n so back then when
rates were going down to ridiculous
amounts I was on a 6% or something crazy
and it was but it was high right at the
wrong time but there was there's off at
this something there's nothing better
than having a peaceful kind of like you
know as long as you can work bloody hard
did all the hours of possibly do to
cover it and literally you like working
and everything was going straight into
that pretty much but I truly believe you
know if you can get through the hard
times that you know the green the greens
growing you know absolutely is not
growing yeah so no it was a it was worth
it it was worth it and there's my my
first house and I say proper house 5
bedroomed detached properties in it yeah
lots of people of them you know done
things with you know the great things
but at the time that was the right thing
absolutely how so some wonderful thing
isn't it yeah absolutely
so that's took you back into property I
used still actively a property investor
knows that where you kind of call
yourself or ya know it's a bit weird
because I mean I think digress in that
last question I'm I got back into
property after my son was made severely
disabled basically we basically had my
beautiful son born
Vasili born completely healthy came home
with him completely normal and then a
mistake by the Midwife
not following certain procedure
basically ended up with a catalogue of
mistakes not just the Midwife we forgave
them publicly in the newspapers which is
pretty damn hard to do because you know
there was blatant mistakes I mean when
you go to the report that they did it
was like there was several mistakes and
it basically you know from having a
beautiful child born healthy coming home
you know healthy we've got a child now
that's severely disabled trapped in his
hot and wheelchair pretty much trapped
in his body and declared blind deaf with
spastic cerebral Z so I mean he's real
control is his taste
you know and that was hard we were told
he was blind to completely weave and
sort of like therapy and all sorts of
stuff we research in America and and you
know not too long ago we had some
reports saying that he's they put some
probes on his head and the reckon he
could see now and that really just about
that he was completely deaf but we
painful taking a decision while they're
young to put them through horrible
operations but but we put him through an
operation that has given him like the
robotic sound if you know I mean so ok
he's got something called Cochlear's
where they kind of drill into the head
they put a magnet processor goes on that
and then they put some probes or
whatever goes straight down into the
cochlea and now that goes back to a
processor and so he can hear like and
the best way I describe it to people is
why we've been described we've been told
it is Americans used to talk yeah that's
how he can hear pretty much so he'll
pick some things up certain spectrum
some sounds he might not be able to pick
up but um generally you know but he
reacts to me he knows me his mom he
knows that's the love it definitely
responses without that just give me an
example but the amount of light therapy
they put on him is basically that you
put it had he his blood was poisoned
pretty much had to do platoons but they
the way they can sort of negate that
that the increase of bilirubin which
helped cause brain damage was put him
under the lights and they did that for a
lot of premature children actually but
but they put him under the lights and he
was that much under the lights that he
actually looked like a black child and
he was you know you know at work with
olivey skin but generally kind of white
you know but he look like a black child
and you know I will never forget and
I've got him on my phone I mean
literally I've just got him on my phone
and it's a reason to have a picture of
him on my phone like this the reason why
people think it's probably weird why do
I have him as a screen saver as my child
with all these tubes in him you know up
his nose on his arms everywhere probes
everywhere and looking it's like
completely you know
okay but the reality is I'm really proud
of him that's why that's his that's his
defining moment you know they survived
that and no matter how much crap has
happened since in the last almost seven
years literally I look at that photo and
when I'm feeling it and I've had a lot
of crap come on trust me within a lot of
locals when I'm really feeling that
thinking how dare I even complain you
know I complain this kid has gone
through everything you know and he
steals your perception and kills
everything that is your lifee absolutely
yeah yeah I'm even using that now on my
diet I'm on I want to call it a
lifestyle change a lifestyle yeah I love
that change but I've lost like almost I
was it I was 17 pound 17 stone - alright
and I put on weight free depression 17
pounds - - and with just over three
weeks on and I'm I'm 1510 now so baby
it's a big drop for a short period time
and that's because of him you know
because I just think I thought screw
this I can't I can't keep killing myself
absolutely but it's a property yeah I'd
say I'd say that was my defining moment
I needed to do something to help my son
and to have my family well we're in
hospital whilst all that stuff was going
on with transit bills coming in needed
to pay and what people don't show you is
you know obviously you don't have the
support you know the supports maybe late
Iran after a while a little bit of
support here in there so it's charitable
support you know if you get a case
through negligence then you get support
later on down the line
but even then you've got support where
people assume or you know you thought
you got proper support your support so
it's actually like that last night you
know I had about four hours sleep which
is standard now most people don't get
that they think that's weird but that's
standard for us and like we've got with
three carry Shaw so you know my wife and
I cover in that you know
I got full-time care 24/7 well he's
supposed to Apple we've never had
full-time 24 not for seven years it's
just impossible it's just we struggle to
get people you know what you get it it's
like it's like yeah unfortunately our
home has become a business in terms of
like it's a care home you know but you
know what in the last year he's been
really stable so you know it's taking a
lot more there's less hospital visits
and stuff like that so you know he's
been really really stable and you know
he sees making massive massive strides I
mean he was declared blind he was
declared death
we know he can see now he's using on I
guess how much he can see we don't know
I truly believe it's with the therapy we
did with that research we did with
Christine Ramon which basically involved
putting a torch in the eyes and
switching on and off watch the people
open and grow he'd never met a flinch to
talk through the light and he could
flinch and then so at night me and my
wife throughout the night with taking
turns and just through four hours
you know switched it has to be tungsten
not a blue like they can screw through
the eyes er it has to be like those
old-fashioned boulders you know yellow
ones and yeah and you just watch his
body so he's like my sergeant is I I
recite which open and grow grew and
closing and and yeah off and then
eventually after months of doing that
once I think is my wife in the in the
bathroom she was he wasn't sleep and
seals up with him and she was just doing
it bless her persevering on and she's
just called me and I'm not military went
in there and the lights were all off I
put the lights on and I put the lights
on because you had a torch and he
changed the hell Wow
and she goes let's see he did it to you
as well I'm like wow that's crazy
so ya know it's mine it's mine so is
that and then again he was fed through
the tube and we retrained him through a
like a milk bottle he couldn't move his
mouth off he couldn't in his brain
damage basically he's brain damaged but
and we used to squeeze the teat you know
and then move his bottom of his chin
with our finger just dissolved so get
him into a sort of like you know any now
he takes it takes food from the weekend
from Holly is it
it's it's been hard it's been hard man
but you know perseverance what can I say
and that's what it is and I think it's
difficult because obviously I can't
relate to anything that you've gone
through in that situation but using that
as an example so my foster siblings
say pastor Simmons there were initially
foster siblings we went through special
guardianship so three of my siblings
have had similar what's gonna call it
disabilities growing up as well so for
instance the older one he's got a mental
age which is less than half his age
we've got one who's on the autistic
spectrum yeah and when they came into my
life a little bit which is why I
resonate with your story a bit is it
change my whole perception of life and
everything that I used to mourn about
the silliest things now I'm grateful for
and I know you know we all sending out
quotes every single day and we're all
trying this positive beacon of light but
I genuinely had them within my followers
as well similar to yourself and it's
near when I'm there feeling crappy or
feeling sorry for myself because I don't
know the car tires flat or something
something daft perspective but these
kids are finding them much harder battle
them then I'm having to fight and yes
it's commendable because I don't want to
make this about property because anyone
that wants to know my calling properties
new fantastic and you've got podcasts
out for that and you can reach out to
him afterwards but this is more about
you as a person who's taken this use you
change the perception you've dealt with
the cars that you are handed it's not
fair I can't explain only thing anyone
can explain why weird out certain cards
but all we can do is play with them the
best way that you can a new kind of I
know you very quickly scaled up after
that and maybe that's because your back
was against the wall I suppose and yeah
you spy on me I mean there's a my
favorite quote and I promote it in one
of my groups could effusive entrepreneur
it's called it's from Jack London and
it's a it's basically about you know
playing a bad hand well basically yeah
and there's an ace of cards you know ace
of hearts on the card you can you can
always play a bad hand well and so
basically don't even if you you can do
feels like on them on the outside of it
you might feel like you're losing it's
how you play or how you react to that
that counts so example is in property
is I mean add a commercial to
residential big one
I'm Birmingham it's 15 rooms in the end
and it was my my first commercial and my
second project in property and I pretty
much jumped the gun a bit but we have
everything complying at us literally and
it was really stressful and at the same
time as going through moments or like
I've been for my own health care
problems I was going through cancer
scare myself and there's a lot going on
obviously my son and you know dealing
with deal certain builders oh my god
nightmare and getting things wrong and
it was just you know massive learning we
had contamination issues we had we had
all sorts of problems just cracking on
but you know again look at my my son on
my photo on my on my phone and I talk
about my son but I actually used my son
as a metaphor for my family yeah because
my kids that my children Ellie Maria two
girls they're just as amazing Maria for
instance she's actually disabled as well
but people don't know it and she's got
some good Zubaz syndrome where middle
part of her head the brains not fully
formed and really rare and it can happen
by being sheared and my bum or I've been
shitty stressed at birth and it can be
it can happen from genes and all
something that it's not our genes
because we checked them and you know it
basically she's got autistic issues she
could go blind that she grows older
because the protein doesn't protect her
eyes and all this kind of stuff but she
could have been worse I mean apparently
they're not supposed to have balance and
can't walk but she she fires us all I
mean she was she was born and had was
shaken her lace and Eliza liked she had
nystagmus and head wouldn't stop shaking
so she's trained a brain to you know to
planets her eyes and and she's learned
you know to keep straight and she she's
talking to normal school she's doing
everything she's you know she's only
four or five now and she's doing really
really well and I she's got little
tantrum tantrums but not doesn't quite
understand certain stuff but I mean I'd
say but now she's still more behaved
some children I know that haven't got
nearly so I class
I think I don't sort of put out there
just because she's not disabled really
you know he is on paper but she's not so
for me you know it's almost like my son
was brought there to sort of like help
us deal with the shit that's to come if
that makes sense my thought was like
that and we didn't have no problems
before and all the stuff for the
property stuff I don't I think what
would have hit was hard but going
through sheer hell you know when my son
really sort of prepared us a lot for a
lot of stuff oh it came I understand
that but I think sometimes it's funny
because I don't wish anyone to really go
through pain it's not yeah yeah but that
makes me feel sad when I know people are
going through pain but sometimes I feel
people need to experience some level of
adversity you know not to really find
focus and change their life as well and
as much as I'm trying to tell people
don't wait for that wake-up call for
example don't wait for to find out that
your child may need extra care for
example or you've been hit with the
illness get out there and do it now and
I suppose it's easier said than done
because if nobody's having to live the
life Safe Routes that you've lived for
example yeah well like my siblings they
don't really have that agency my it's
frustrating I get frustrated because I'm
like we are so blessed like beyond means
even what we're doing now being able to
communicate how we eyes Isis anything
yeah absolutely I mean there's so much
horrible stuff out there in the world
and it's just you know it's crazy to you
know to to not be grateful for what
we've got and and and you know when you
see people that are grateful when
they've got little and we've all been
there we've all been them in some way in
our minds we've been at the greatest of
lows and it could be from spitting out
with your boyfriend or girlfriend
it could be splitting up with you know
you know a JV partner I don't know the
point a point is you know at that point
it could be serious the most absolute
low you know you could have health
issues cancer issues family there's all
sorts we've had that as well in this
period and that n is it's not great it's
not great but at the same time you know
I've always said one of my sayings is
like you know we will never you know
we'll never
I don't get my words up today well we're
never given a Golden Path
it was never we never no one promised us
anything you know and so and so like if
you want something you've got to go and
get it you either fail or you success
fall you know and if you're successful
great if you fail get up and do it again
and keep trying that and even if you've
got no money or anything there's always
away you know and you know what worst
comes to the worst I'm dying from
something it's if you've got your mind
in the right mind and you think you know
what I was conceived that's amazing I
lived a few years that's amazing if you
get your mind in the right mind you
still be grateful even when you're dying
you know I mean and we've seen other
witness people like that you know yeah I
love that mindset you just touched on
something and make sure we add it at the
end of the show you've got a group you
just say yeah I've got I've got a group
it's called the effusive entrepreneur
okay so anything about stuff like these
entrepreneurs is in the name but about
your mindset as well well it's actually
I do marketing I do it mine only a
marketing training and that's like a
little group I actually put more effort
in my closed group which is people in my
arm in a number the thing for me is like
I literally had a VA that was helping me
out on that side of things
and she literally went AWOL live just
randomly went AWOL and I don't know what
happened I really don't know but she's
from Philippines
it just went AWOL so yeah looking at a
decent VA at the moment I think I found
one
we'll see how it goes but yeah now I
need to push push put more engagement in
that group from being honest with you
okay yeah I know it's a great group I've
got loads of people about I think about
300 people in the group yeah I do
engagement but not as much as I like
I've got a couple of other groups have
got one called it's magnetic marketing
system is another group it's just
basically a really secret one group
where it's just the people that I train
arm property marketing getting leads
about business and all that kind of
stuff an investment it's a small very
small group at the moment I've got a few
people that you guys know some really
great people successful people right in
there and yeah
so that's going really well gonna be
open that up again soon um yeah just
I've got my event in London that's
causing a lot of bloody Wow yeah my son
right that's marketing again it's going
to be we've got we've got a Khadija the
apprentice star she's gonna be there
we've got a YouTube expert you know he's
helped Samuel Leeds get from 50,000 to
150,000 something a lot you know he's
talking it's all about marketing it's
gonna be it's gonna be awesome and can
fit about 480 people at the Marriott
Hotel in London it's my event big
pressure on me it's only 16th and 17th
of March this year prices start at 97
pounds but you get actually what we're
doing now we get got this program
actually that I'm affiliated to and
we're going to be offering people free
access to this program which is you know
pretty amazing yeah any other ticket
prices which basically covers their
costs on the bottom ticket easily and
basically they could create landing
pages you know can forgive the email
system within it so if you want to build
your own website that's the and
templates in there so they get that for
free
I haven't launched it yet but you've
heard it here first on our I'm just
gonna say you were saying your nervously
I'm sure you don't need any more
motivation than just to look at your
phone before that exactly exactly that
may be right yeah okay absolutely that I
see it I mean I guess that the
nervousness is the fact that you know
it's a it's a big thing you'd love to
fill it out you know you care about it
care about I've got 15 speakers and many
come from abroad there's people like you
know top and marketers making 40 50
grand a month you know it's crazy but a
figure of guy there
their partnership guys and and and you
know it's yeah it's it's this pressure
you know but it's great it's great now
I'm like you know I'm one of these like
you know it's easy for me to go easy
coming to go you know what you've got to
try these things what does Rob Moore say
don't the risk you know basically
absolutely yeah yeah I'm sure
well yeah I'm so it's all quite a few
tickets not enough but we've only just
launched so you know it's a it's
something we pushing out there look
forward to it make sure you media
information is
after this and I'll send you a signature
notes it's automated I said it put a lot
of people it's good for you know coaches
anyone wanting to launch an event anyone
that's in marketing wants to do a bit
more marketing on their property and get
some really great bubbly gonna get some
tools for it
fantastic okay brilliant so you actually
doing like more stuff than I knew about
you I know I know of course he's a
full-time dad and I thought that would
be taking up all your time but here you
are making your own events and
everything so another question then so
you're successful in what you've done in
terms of the property you're doing a
great job with your children and your
family so what's the day like from the
moment you wake up tell you got like 17
or yeah I bet I am
I wake up about four or five in the
morning right sometimes going to bed
late unfortunately but it's not my
choice no that's not by choice that's
actually by habit now that's initially
it wasn't by choice now if I'm being
honest with you the reality is I could
sleep a little bit longer but I've just
it's just become me now if I can get
sleep and I accidently sleep through
that because all exhausted or whatever
and and actually doing this diet it's
really helping me so if my son doesn't
disturb me and doesn't wake up and that
you know I could easily go into 7:00
you know easy yeah well it's it's just
um it's just nice you know I actually
get a good rest when I go to like events
you know you know so but my schedule is
basically get about four or five I I
always turn ask me why it's really
strange but I always always come
downstairs I eat a banana
randal cake I'm not banana man
my first thing I do a banana I go to my
son I give him a really big kiss because
he's exhaust get ready has his dinner
and he's get ready for his he's like
specialist school a given big kiss the
girls are still in bed and my son's lot
obviously awake and then I start looking
at my schedule for the day I never
follow it just to me
okay he's organized work just look at it
yes I'm aware of it because what happens
when I start creating a website or
landing page for someone
or final for someone to help convert you
know get people to event or through
Facebook ads or whatever I'm doing for
people I end up like getting engrossed
in the computer and some way it's gonna
be supposed to be an hour it ends up
being longer so so setting time because
for me doesn't and and what I do is I
just make sure I do the stuff and and I
make sure I do it at whatever cost and
so I do I literally do that and I try
and mix it with the children like I have
the computer here in the living room mo
more often on by my bed upstairs on my
bed believe in our it's not the best
comfortable thing to do here because of
the reception's better there you know a
billion you get piece if the kids are
kind of well-behaved watching TV I like
to kind of come here in that but if it's
too noisy I just can't I just can't over
this I've got like a an outbuilding as
well that I converted for a training
suite and I've got an office there that
needs a little bit more finishing off
but it's pretty much burn so I'm gonna
start and can start utilizing that more
just gets a bit cold I've got the heat
is on there in that but it's like you go
warm it up for like an hour or so before
and today I can't be asked you know just
a lot stay upstairs on my bed and just
do my work you know not a great thing to
do but now I've got a proper PT involved
with my exercise we're gonna make it
that part of my schedule something to do
this year try and get you know not just
use the lose the the fat actually gets
physically more stronger and you know
getting care scheduling for that at
least I think for me there's anything on
schedule that I want to do I'm pushing
my marketing efforts because a lot
people while so I've been my property
journey you know I've had a few podcasts
and interviews and so on I've not really
promote it'll push what I what I trained
in you know design and marketing and and
I've had a few people approached me over
the years from property world and it's
like I've helped them massively I've
helped people like were there you know
they might have a 399 ebook and I make
them 15k within a couple of months in
just Facebook ads but
by promoting a book you know and it's
it's I know I'm good at what I do but I
don't
and III this is my biggest flaw I don't
like selling I don't like selling and
I'm one of rob mores mentors and I've
signed up to his thing cuz I got really
good at helping people value their
selves helping them realize their worth
and he said something recently he said
he said something about when people say
oh I don't need to sell myself I don't
need yeah I don't need to sell myself
people come to me that's me that's me
man I hate to admit it it's like I get I
get work it just comes to me right but
actually imagine what I'd do if I should
start promoting myself you know leave it
so much on the table yeah I'm leaving so
much on the table almost I almost don't
give a crap because I'm designing my own
life you know I mean yeah at the same
time if I really want to get to my goal
my goal is actually to eventually be
able to afford to buy an Ironman suit
for my son some sort of give him the
independence thought we know that's
gonna cost millions and if I want to get
to that goal at that you know at that
point then I'm gonna have to do better
than this sort of like you know just you
know happy happy that enough works
coming my way and people using me that
way I think I should be you know
professionalizing myself a little bit
more and and valuing myself more to the
point that I should promote myself it's
just that there's a nervousness of
promoting yourself I mean I think you've
probably seen it amongst the the the
forums and that people kind of think
your guru rising yourself or you know
like oh god who's another person
thinking a minute I had a business
before hello you know these people
business before and what you do in
business is you promote a market that's
what you're supposed to do you know
they're almost I allow myself to be
affected by other people's judgments
which you can't do even myself I mean I
promote myself a lot more recently
especially in the last 12 months in
terms of like my own brand and me as a
person that initially was the hardest
thing I've ever had to do and the whole
point of like you need to know your
Worth and stuff
we were spoken to me I thinking one of
my first jobs when I was young as a
project manager and my manager at the
time because I came out of me
you know when they ask you what's
special about you give three things as
an icebreaker I was like nothing I'm
just I'm just me yeah he told me
afterwards because he he listed like a
few things that he found special about
me and long story short he was that if
you don't blow your own trumpet nobody
else is gonna in this world because of
the way the moment is and I don't know
you always resonated with me and it
still took me the best part of seven
eight years later on to real stuff I'm
thinking if I can just do this and not
really worry about the engagement and
kind of just be like look I've got a
message here I want to share it it comes
from the heart it's honest if you
resonate with it fantastic if you don't
not a problem so it was difficult for us
because they used to send it off and
you're kind of looking at your phone
thinking what's gonna happen and now
it's kind of like I just Lars a and
people ask me that how did you write
content and I say I don't like really
write contact a kind of document like my
life kind of things like you've done
something a property I'll speak about it
if it's health and fitness I'll speak
about it if it's like an interesting
meeting I'll just speak about it and
hopefully I always try and give people
some sort of tangible yeah information
that they can take away I think you
should be that because I didn't know you
were doing all these amazing crazy
wonderful things yeah a bit here in
there I do you know I mean I'll get my
flap out on flipping social media just
to really put myself available to the
world you know that I'm gonna lose
weight and I say I wrote i put a vision
I put watch this miraculous journey of
this of me this is anyway and I've done
it in three weeks already there's no
ultimate accountability
you know ridicules you that you're gonna
be it's embarrassing
a whole lot the source stuff but at the
same time you know for the first time in
my life we have tried different diets
since what happened to my son I put a
lot of weight on the first time in my
life I'm facing it head-on so yeah oh
you and look at my fat mass yeah I'm
here
absolutely even my addictions and I call
them addictions because that's all I've
ever eat and then it's like I literally
get urges for this stuff isn't my port
my secrets of this diet is I'm facing it
and I call it the no BS lifestyle diet
okay basically I put Pringles fizzy
drinks and I've got a packet of Haribo
outside of my bed
oh no Quinn okay right and I sleep with
them by the side of my bed and I wake
that with the word we
because I had to face my addictions yeah
yeah and it's a bit like that in
property when people would like go to
training training training training
training training training training
training training the good mentors were
saying you got to do you've got to just
you know and and I you know I'm a course
drinking I'm proud of it I'm proud of it
I'm a course drunk eating for two main
reasons number one it's always good even
if you already know the stuff to go over
again it's good to get reminders right
but number two and this is the biggest
one
mentors need Mentors even if you're
whatever level you are and all my
mentors have got mentors themselves you
know I mean Nick James is mentorship
I've been under song azuki's mentorship
I mean Rob Moore's mentorship you know
the reality is and I I mentor other
people myself yeah and I truly believe
that you you've got to really be what's
the word humble enough to want to keep
learning absolutely and there's a lot of
people that are arrogant and feel like
the only courses well good for you happy
you do not everyone wants to work that
way I actually love people right I love
networking I love people but I love
genuine people that I've got integrity
they're true to them certainly I really
can't stand people that fake I hate it
and I can sense them a mile away and and
I always when I talk about marketing's
be true to yourself just be yourself and
people attract to you and a good friend
of ours Camilla does the sa stuff I
would say so name
can we look oh yeah she's exactly great
and I mentor mentoring in marketing as
well but it's usually just started to be
fair and and you know she's a really
great she's doing massive should be
really successful and she's doing it by
just being herself she's been brilliant
you know and you know we all learn off
each other I've learned a lot of Simon's
uchi I've learned a lot of Rob more I've
learned a lot of Nick James you know
I've got another mentor that is you know
definitely need him because he's like
he's like a sales machine he really
knows he's you know he's good he's got a
product called open with a closing
doesn't do its Leslie it's just like you
know you want my product is I'm worth
this much and you know so this is what
it is and he's named my Elwell really
great guy amazing guy getting hired by
some really top guys at the moment
because he's easy really is you know
legend or what he does and so yeah I
want to constantly improve I want to be
I want to be my ultimate self before I
die and I know more than a lot of people
know life it's bloody short man
it really is severely because of your
experiences yeah absolutely yeah
yeah I think you touch on quite a few
things with your whole I'm looking
forward to it but I actually lose 42
pounds in seven and a half weeks myself
so what I want to do boxing never go to
the gym and I was a think was about 24
at the time and there was like seven
year-olds two ten-year-olds very cheeky
little kids and I'd to go for a room
with him so I told the kids because then
I was all the way and I could I couldn't
run more than like 200 meters and all I
could hear him was saying come on old
man come on Batman and all these kind of
like really literally me facing it but I
took I took it personally I was like
I'll get you back and then with a love
working working my ass off basically for
the next two months it really really
helped and there is no magic formula to
anything whether it's property whether
it's health and fitness whatever it is
literally you just got to go and do it
and then if you you learn a little bit
you pivot I hope that's called it on my
uncle my own podcast called Mike drops
get okay I guess my drop is call mine
yet close and I've interviewed a couple
of a top level you know we're talking
really high level guys in America my
calls another guy called les Evans and
11 there's Evan said a thing to me he
said he said um he said people think
there's an easy route to success but
it's all hard work even when it doesn't
look that way and he said even if you're
people just speak in the thing they're
just speaking they're successful from
speaking and
and he's brilliant at that is amazing
amazing me he's gonna you know he's he's
advised people in the White House he's
done all sorts he's just bum a lot the
guys absolutely legend and he's had
become a really good friend of mine and
and he was saying to me you know I
remember it was on the lines of like I
remember when you said pedal stall
people like that look big and famous and
he became himself but in the end they're
just flipping normal people and what
people don't understand is that you know
they want to laugh you know they want to
get on you know they don't to be used
and and and there's a lot of truth in
that and there and there's a lot of
people do assume they also die they
connected that way back I used to give
him a lot of my time for free and in the
end I ended up blocking him and this is
where you learn about time for money and
it wasn't yeah it was like you every
every conversation about a heart I've
tough your love to have your lives love
to out Matt me yeah I'd live in a
flipping shed and have my son healthy
you won't want my life trust me it's not
great but you know it's not as great as
you think it is you know and and it was
just constant constant constant constant
like you know like MV and it wasn't the
nice he wasn't moving forward is that I
want to get 200 houses within two years
and he was like really unrealistic yeah
all right 10x it I you know go for it
you know I hate that comment that word
clinics it got you know I love what
Grant Cardone is about I just hate the
10x it that side of it not because I
don't believe in it I believe in it
it's just that I see if thrown around
too freely now and and like by people
that could potentially really screw
their lives over if they do try to 10x
it you know and where they feel that you
know they've been inspired and they can
just rush ahead you've got to get the
education in I don't care what you know
you got to build the foundations he's
got to build the foundations and and
then and then to exit first you know and
then check out what you know check out a
flavor for it and then check out what X
might be you know I don't like the 2x
you know I'm not doing us a great point
I think we're in the
society obviously with the whole
Instagram highlight reels and nobody's
really posting stuff that is like their
bad days of supposed and I supposed
indirectly I don't know how but when I
was getting a bit of traction in like
the property groups it was because I was
just Oakley admit all my mistakes up
something I was just documenting again
like listen I am probably the worst guy
a property talking three years ago I was
a look I made this mistake I've made
this and people resonated with that so
indirectly actually helped 9% of the
time it is lychee everyone showing their
best date on a highlight reel and I
think we get that thing and then people
read the secret and it's all this
wishful thinking and it's like listen it
is goes back to what you said earlier do
it do it you've just got to face it and
do it just exactly I mean madness you're
spot on and the crazy thing is is that
I've been exactly the same I've done
podcasts and I've been honest just
straight on you know I'll straight up
with out loud you didn't want to hear it
we didn't want to hear it I'm like you
know and and cut long story short the
the realities that they won't value in
my time but I wasn't violent valuing it
I can't blame them it's actually
something that I get a trouble from from
my wife so I'm always trying to help as
many people as I can so I'm always
having these one-hour coffees that going
to like one and a half hours or
conversation 15 minutes or less yeah and
then at the end of its like I've got no
time to spend with my wife for example
yeah because I'm just trying to help but
then most of those people they'll come
back with pretty much the same kind of
questions or concerns two months later
having done nothing
you're almost yourself and I think I'm
similar to you in that respect which is
there's some great points that you made
days that I need to start my new my time
a little bit there yeah not so much I
know I need to charge for example it's
on the faith basis that is this person
really going to do it and what I've
started doing as of the last two days is
taking calls on the way to the gym so
I'm like you've got ten minutes with me
far away I'll kind of give you
everything I've got I know it's working
okay because it kills that time to the
gym so yeah absolutely yeah it's not
eating a weigh-in time that you which is
valuable time is valuable time time I've
said entire book emergency we have you
know in the lane if if if people don't
value your time
mmm bug you you spell as I and why work
with people that don't value you they're
just picking and sponging your brain
because they can't be asked again spend
the money on the courses and the
education and or go through the grit in
the action that you've gone through in
the pain that you've gone through they
just want to just you know squeeze your
sponge brain and get all the bloody Evo
out you know those people it doesn't
make us a you know this is not a you
know I'm holy than now I'm perfect I I
know my share you know this has just
just been honest with the situation you
know so I absolutely love helping people
I really do it's just some people just
don't value your time enough so okay
we're gonna change gears a little bit
we've spoken about adversity which is
one of the main drivers like in your
life and I don't wish it on anyone to go
through the same kind of stuff but we
all go through something what I would
ask you though is a different question
is about fear so it's probably a common
question but I want to know what is your
biggest fear but I want to stop and take
away what I think he's gonna be your
first answer from doing some Daryl Brown
tactics here so you can't mention your
your children or your wife in this
scenario but what is your biggest fear
as as yourself my biggest fear for
myself is not accomplishing my dreams
okay and my dreams are actually yes they
are to be able to get enough money to
afford certain things from my family and
I'm not supposed to mention them but my
actual my dreams are to actually be
successful and proud enough to know that
you know that boy in school that was at
loss was crap had to have extra
education was themed
you know classes dyslexic really smashed
it regardless he's not I mean and and so
you know for me to start that would
really be probably my biggest fear stop
him from for me I really I really want
to get aspire to inspire is what I want
to do right and the way you inspire is
by doing great things and and those
great things could be I give a lot to
charity myself I donated just over four
thousand
pounds Christmas do recently you know
and and before that I've donated loads
and even my book my little spot and that
I've written for my son all the all the
money from that including the cost of
making it which most people don't do
they has gone to different charities you
know everything wasn't a lot you know
because these costs of these profits
carry yeah yeah and even before that
even you know I've just constantly you
know every year given in some form to
charity and the point is this like it's
not because I'm you know I want to be
seen as you know are what passive and uh
and people that know with me will know
this is true so I could be a property
meet in and we're walking up the road
for me laughter and I'll just give
twenty pounds of baby homeless man I
don't record it I don't you know but
people that would mean no it yeah I
don't do it for you know I know in
London wherever I am if I see someone
I'll donate and you know and I don't
care if they're they look like they're
druggies well it's not at the end of the
day I because I'm not gonna judge you
know they can do what the hell they want
with it
you know I want to give if I've got it
you know and if it helps them it helps
them I just get I don't need to promote
it or anything that but the reality is
although ironically there's a promote in
this podcast estrangement but honest is
like where we're and it's just merely
answering your question you know my goal
is to aspire to inspire to inspire and
if I can do that for my kids and other
people and great you know and and if it
means like you know giving when you
haven't even got it and I've done that
and and you know it's like then you know
you do you leaving some sort of trail of
legacy wait wait people might not
remember me you know but you know
someone might you know yeah I don't know
but at the end of the day it's strange I
haven't made haven't made it in in my
mind a successful property developer or
marketing agency in my mind I've got a
long way to go but I'll also at the same
time I don't want to have a lot you know
I want to be comfortable I don't want to
have like the two hundred thousand
living rooms and what
acquiring to do well you know I really
don't I don't envy people like that when
I see people doing well I'm like good on
you I'm yeah I really I never had the
jealous I never I just truly think good
on you the ones I don't like are the
ones that do it and they're they're
horrible assholes you know I mean these
people win don't they yeah yeah okay
fantastic no I know that that makes
sense I think I'm very similar as well
in relation to what you saying there and
just on that analogy song I've had going
off on a bit of a tangent here people
who are quite charitable but they'll
never give to somebody who maybe they
assume is gonna have alcohol and drugs
or something and my philosophy has
always been I mean growing up and the
way my mom's always talking is just give
whatever you can give but and the base
is that maybe maybe your donation that
they will just change that person's
perspective or life and providing you're
not just throwing it at home and maybe
you can just give it a try contact will
have a good day or something so I just
give him that lift that they need all
just to keep him going for another day
so I'd always urge people whatever you
can give this absolutely give but yeah I
can't imagine you being somebody's gonna
be taking a selfie while you're doing
that I mean and the truth is I should be
you know utilizing it for you know but
at the same time it's it's not it
doesn't sit right
you know it doesn't sit right so you've
heard the buzzer it's going off so what
I'm gonna do now is but Mike with three
spaces for the next 60 seconds and he's
all I do basically whatever the first
answer comes into your head please give
me that one and you ready mate I'm cool
I'm ready okay we're gonna start in
three two one
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YouTube Marvel or DC are Marvel easily
would you rather know how you were dying
or when you would i how love or money
love books or movies i love books
actually if you could sit with one
person in the world for an hour who
would it be I would love to sit with
Donald Trump to figure out why the hell
looking weird and
go ahead going on I just I'm just
perplexed and also kind of yeah it's a
weird one
that we interested yeah you're worse be
a growing up fighters actually okay and
finally what is your biggest addiction
my biggest might what was my biggest
addiction was slight wrinkles and yeah
wrinkles my biggest addiction at the
moment is learning junkie for learning
and just some Pringles because I'm a
Pringles fun as well what's your
favorite cocktail sorry I don't get me
thinking the next one's on reflection
yeah we've spoken about this earlier
we've spoken about hindsight being a
wonderful thing how you can teach you to
get to where you are quicker easier or
with less heartache for example but
knowing what you know now and with your
life experiences and obviously your
mindset now if you could go back to a
time maybe when you were younger maybe
going through college or school and you
can just whisper something in your ear
knowing how life would pan out for you
and just to kind of maybe motivate or
inspire that young Michael what would
you say I would say you're able to do
anything you put your mind to because I
really believe growing up because I was
told it you know my teacher I didn't
have a good attention span and my
teacher must teacher said to me oh
you're gonna end up as a glassblower she
was old fashioned herself and most
people didn't really kind of connect
with her if I'm being honest with you
but that really thought I thought what
the hell you know kind of thing to say
that just because I you know and I
wasn't interested in her lessons I just
would and again it goes down to what we
read in property marketing people could
be connected you know whatever you do in
it's about attention and connection
right you've got to get the attention to
be noticed and you've got to connect so
if you're going to get an investor to
come to you you've got to get the
attention you've got to do that one way
or another and then you've got to
connect and you can only connect by
being you because long term wise you
know it's a marriage you know it's
simply that absolutely and it's the
easiest thing to do be yourself rather
than trying be someone else off man do
not have some music but I see people my
god and I just cringe and I know that it
makes me cringe
I see people they've been I
I won't even touch into it too much but
there's people that mean there's a
particular person that's training the
same people when they're like they're
following the same moves and everything
in their acting the same as this person
exactly in every way and it's a it's
squiggly it's creepy and windy it is and
the problem with it is as well if you're
copying somebody else you're almost
relying on them to do something you know
the few to follow see as a policy if you
just make your own journey and write
your own story I've got one thing where
I've got respect for these people that's
all for helping them is they've already
taken a step at least they're getting
themselves out of the shell and they do
something but but seeing exact copies
it's just yourself yourself it's like
have you ever seen those live videos
when they're sat there quietly for like
flipping five minutes I'm like I don't
like it I just it's just great I'm like
I just talk shit for a bit I say to
people okay just talk shit wait to
people come on
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and that's not always like to ask my
guess is if in 150 years time and you
are no longer here but all that exists
is a book and it's about your life and
somebody's walking past and they pick up
this book what would the blurb say and
also what would be the title of the book
well already written it it's called my
little spot on the globe
it says embrace your struggle to find
your strength and pretty much what we
talked about today and and I it has a
sub heading saying unleash your lip in a
spa and because we've all gotten in this
part and and what I mean by that it's
not a judgment thing on Spartans and
while it's just the fact that you know
against the odds it's a metaphor
it's against the odds they know they're
gonna die but they're fighting all they
can yeah and that's the point at the end
of the day we're all gonna freakin die
but let's just see what we can do you
know that's all we can do but you know
you know the end of a that's why I don't
mind helping people as much as I can
because that you know any bit of help
you get out there is what
nice absolutely Granta our future looks
already out yes my little spy Amazon
yeah best seller international
bestseller there you go is it oh wow
yeah i 100% put that in the bottom of
and the show notes as well alright it's
actually the first time somebody's
already answered my question and done my
question but what I always like to ask
people is there is somewhere they can
contact you now I know you're doing
amazing things all over the world in
networking marketing property you're an
author as well there's one place and I'm
just gonna limit it to one but I will
obviously add everything else afterwards
what is the number one place that you'd
prefer base for Facebook Facebook I'm 5m
I'm maxed out sorry guys so just listen
I've got another group page good Michael
V Calais Paris just a baby bear I'd be
there and start using it more now
because I'm that's my that's my own
that's my professional page so just want
them on to Michael V or try and message
me on on on my one at least and I'm not
try and connect and brilliantly it's
been a absolute pleasure like I said at
the beginning I reached out to you long
time we don't know yeah I love your
story you know that this is fascinating
promise there's live calls on them you
all get busy I haven't managed to
reconnect there so and thank you for
your time today you've been doing
awesome things as well okay it's good to
see and again like you know we reach out
to people that we connect with and like
and so on and you know obviously
responded back to you because I know
like and trust okay you know it works
the same way you know yeah that's how I
see it and and that's how that's how
relationships grow that's how investors
get involved that's how all this stuff
happens you know it's it's all about
that you know so absolutely absolutely
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Find your voice - Episode 11 - My Little Spartan - Michael V Kalisperas #11
Tagline: "Unleash your inner spartan..."
Apologies in advance for the sound quality on my end. Technical issues certainly played their role. But in true spartan fashion we kept going.
Michael Kalisperas life turned upside when his son was hit with a number of health conditions due to the neglect of a midwife. Sadly his beautiful son's life had changed which would have a knock on effect to Michael and his family.
However determined to not let this get him down, Michael continued to take action and let his excuses be a thing of the past. Realising his own excuses and rationales to avoid doing the hard stuff are so insignificant compared to the battles his son, and daughter face on a daily basis he ensured he crushed his goals.
A successful property investor, an author, a father and loving husband Michael story is one which touched my heart.
I reached out personally when I first heard his story because he genuinely changed my whole perception on the way I view my life or sometimes feel about my own situation.
I urge you all to ignore the sound defects, which I take full responsibility for and listen to this incredible man's story.
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[Music]
welcome to an episode of find your voice
a movement led by yours truly
Aren do a guy who has overcome
crippling anxiety adversity and
difficulty like so many of you in life
whose main goal now is to help you
combat your excuses take control of your
life write your own story and most
importantly find your voice so now
without further ado I welcome the host
of the show himself mr. Aren do what's
going on people thank you for tuning in
to another episode of find your voice my
name is Aren and as always I am the
host of the show so it's very rare that
I will stop a podcast especially at the
end of it just to kind of find out who
the individual is now I'm not saying I
don't get inspired or motivated by
people but generally speaking I'm just
kind of excited for the next podcast
however on this particular occasion a
few years ago I actually pause the
podcast towards the end of the show now
the only problem was I still had the
rest of my car journey to go so I was
kind of sitting in silence but it was
worth it because I really wanted to send
a message to this individual who I'm now
very grateful to have on my podcast and
I sent a message out to Michael to kind
of say thank you for the inspiration for
the motivation and more importantly I
hope things really do progress a little
bit easy for him I suppose in life and
speaking to him in this interview it's
difficult to say how things got easier
but one thing I can say is that he's
attitude is still the same he's
willingness to just go out there and
take action and not be a victim of his
circumstances is fantastic and that's
kind of what this podcast is about it's
about eliminating your excuses it's
about pay with the cards that you're
dealt with it's about literally thinking
okay this is what's happened now how do
I change this how do I go out into the
world and really find my voice and kind
of write my own story so I think I'm
going to leave it there
I just want to say before it starts I
did have some teething issues with the
Wi-Fi so we actually have to do a zoom
core where
which was fine for videos but
unfortunately some of the Sam when I was
editing it back wasn't quite as clear as
I had hoped because I was using my
laptop speaker as opposed to my mic that
I'm now recording this intro with so
hopefully you can bear with this because
I think more important than the sound
quality is the message and the story
behind Michael's life so without further
ado let's get this interview on the way
okay so I am here today with my course
obviously I want to say thank you
Michael for taking time out of your day
and there how are you doing today young
I'm very well thank you
good stuff good stuff so I think it's
important for the listeners to really
start to understand your story from
yourself so if you could please explain
how you progress through life yeah sure
progress through life as it seems like a
I'm 42 in them in literally a couple of
weeks time so it's February you know so
not long I'm gonna be 42 so other know
where to begin to go through the whole
life scenario but I've done quite a lot
of things I guess I could go back to
even school where I would say I was
probably not the best at school and not
really someone that was a you know in
these special sets as they call him
because I wasn't really interested in
school I didn't feel the vibe at school
I just didn't you know bond with the
teachers if I'm being honest but my life
completely changed where when I went to
college and you meet a different type of
teacher and different environment and it
was a bit more more creative more my
feeling you know what cuz I've always
come from a creative background I've
always been like an artist as such and
then I ended up pretty much ending up
going to to university ended up at de
Montford University and doing them so we
call multimedia design and marketing
basically which was basically it was
multimedia and I left there and a lot of
my friends ended up in the 3d world from
from from those sort of forces and ended
up her kind of like playing games for
Sony Playstation so I'm got a real while
yeah got really good friends I'm quite
well in that and then and I ended up
basically showcasing my work they they
asked for a few people to earn
to showcase their work at an exhibition
in London I think it was the Olympia I
can't remember the actual name of the
venue from being asked me so many years
ago and it was a big place and and they
had about I don't know six of us the
showcase our stuff so they picked people
that they wanted to showcase at this
show and it was just like a sort of like
greatest show and Khaitan story short I
got a head hunted by my boss back then
Charla Crais for the BBC ended up
working at the BBC basically doing
designs and websites for them and yeah
we touched on many many areas it was
within a group of people as a lot of
these companies are and so I was in the
designer group and basically design
websites ranging from Teletubbies to
crime watch Top Gear yeah yeah very very
very very very varied set of you know
even like you know History Channel maybe
we've seen so it was really it was a
department called fracture and learning
back at the time I think they've got rid
of the actual Department have something
else it's called a different name now
yeah and I was in and I didn't stay
there as long as I could of I decided to
leave I don't know what it was I come
from originally London actually
ironically but most of my life was
brought up in a small village called
Mulford where they've got the movin
hills and more than spring water and all
this kind of thing and it is a bit like
house on the prairie kind of thing and
as when I lived there I can't wait to
get out and you know escape and get into
University and all that sorcerer and and
meet people and but when you go to the
like concrete jungle and kind of think
on what god what is this AZ yeah yeah
it's kind of like we start realizing you
know my dad says it is well he lived in
them the most of his life I actually
came over here with nothing I mean he
literally had no money for shoes he
literally came with nothing from from
Cyprus and he started up and he's done
well for himself through hard graft and
he he said to me I will I won't go back
to London even if someone pays me you
know you
not because he doesn't like London
didn't love it you just just just found
a different vibe somewhere else simple
as that and I think for me it's the same
find different vibe I still go to London
often I'm going for five days literally
in the next day date in half I'm going
there for five days you're going in out
of business and meet people and you know
so yeah it's a it's I love it a little
bit but to live there it's a different
world he's in it
different world I lived there bought a
house on the outskirts of it was a was
well II did the Olympics actually now
really wish I didn't sell it I ended up
selling it because I got squatter's you
believe that I so that's my first true
investment and actually that property
now is worth about seven hundred
thousand I bought it about 115 I think
it was i sold actually actually i only
had it for a year and I sold it but I
made 40k profit in that point that's lo
que ya I can't complain and it was a but
still I can't complain absolutely my
point of doing it in keeping up was I
always I always thought back there I
used to watch location occasionally all
those programs and I always wanted to
build my own house I just wanted might
get buy land above my house and you know
obviously working in London you know
you've got to be pretty sorted you know
sign up and bloody you know 23 years old
or whatever was coming about what and
you know the reality is that to buy land
in London
absolutely from some guy in Morphin you
know
and yeah just bought that property no
the plan was to keep it but
unfortunately got screwed over yeah yeah
and I was kind of like I just lost the
will to live my eyes I have to get rid
so yeah ventually got rid of them and
they trashed it as well because although
I Franky refurbished it and they trashed
it which was really nice of them
but hey and it's one of those and it I'm
back in it now yeah back into property
well I wanted to do it quicker if I'm
being honest with you I bought my own
house back in Melbourne after I sold my
my house there
bought my own house back in well when
that was brick building you know
something come up whilst we're coming
out of the recession a boy at the
recession period which was the worst
thing can do I look because I'm so
paranoid I was stuck on a high
fixed-rate back of n so back then when
rates were going down to ridiculous
amounts I was on a 6% or something crazy
and it was but it was high right at the
wrong time but there was there's off at
this something there's nothing better
than having a peaceful kind of like you
know as long as you can work bloody hard
did all the hours of possibly do to
cover it and literally you like working
and everything was going straight into
that pretty much but I truly believe you
know if you can get through the hard
times that you know the green the greens
growing you know absolutely is not
growing yeah so no it was a it was worth
it it was worth it and there's my my
first house and I say proper house 5
bedroomed detached properties in it yeah
lots of people of them you know done
things with you know the great things
but at the time that was the right thing
absolutely how so some wonderful thing
isn't it yeah absolutely
so that's took you back into property I
used still actively a property investor
knows that where you kind of call
yourself or ya know it's a bit weird
because I mean I think digress in that
last question I'm I got back into
property after my son was made severely
disabled basically we basically had my
beautiful son born
Vasili born completely healthy came home
with him completely normal and then a
mistake by the Midwife
not following certain procedure
basically ended up with a catalogue of
mistakes not just the Midwife we forgave
them publicly in the newspapers which is
pretty damn hard to do because you know
there was blatant mistakes I mean when
you go to the report that they did it
was like there was several mistakes and
it basically you know from having a
beautiful child born healthy coming home
you know healthy we've got a child now
that's severely disabled trapped in his
hot and wheelchair pretty much trapped
in his body and declared blind deaf with
spastic cerebral Z so I mean he's real
control is his taste
you know and that was hard we were told
he was blind to completely weave and
sort of like therapy and all sorts of
stuff we research in America and and you
know not too long ago we had some
reports saying that he's they put some
probes on his head and the reckon he
could see now and that really just about
that he was completely deaf but we
painful taking a decision while they're
young to put them through horrible
operations but but we put him through an
operation that has given him like the
robotic sound if you know I mean so ok
he's got something called Cochlear's
where they kind of drill into the head
they put a magnet processor goes on that
and then they put some probes or
whatever goes straight down into the
cochlea and now that goes back to a
processor and so he can hear like and
the best way I describe it to people is
why we've been described we've been told
it is Americans used to talk yeah that's
how he can hear pretty much so he'll
pick some things up certain spectrum
some sounds he might not be able to pick
up but um generally you know but he
reacts to me he knows me his mom he
knows that's the love it definitely
responses without that just give me an
example but the amount of light therapy
they put on him is basically that you
put it had he his blood was poisoned
pretty much had to do platoons but they
the way they can sort of negate that
that the increase of bilirubin which
helped cause brain damage was put him
under the lights and they did that for a
lot of premature children actually but
but they put him under the lights and he
was that much under the lights that he
actually looked like a black child and
he was you know you know at work with
olivey skin but generally kind of white
you know but he look like a black child
and you know I will never forget and
I've got him on my phone I mean
literally I've just got him on my phone
and it's a reason to have a picture of
him on my phone like this the reason why
people think it's probably weird why do
I have him as a screen saver as my child
with all these tubes in him you know up
his nose on his arms everywhere probes
everywhere and looking it's like
completely you know
okay but the reality is I'm really proud
of him that's why that's his that's his
defining moment you know they survived
that and no matter how much crap has
happened since in the last almost seven
years literally I look at that photo and
when I'm feeling it and I've had a lot
of crap come on trust me within a lot of
locals when I'm really feeling that
thinking how dare I even complain you
know I complain this kid has gone
through everything you know and he
steals your perception and kills
everything that is your lifee absolutely
yeah yeah I'm even using that now on my
diet I'm on I want to call it a
lifestyle change a lifestyle yeah I love
that change but I've lost like almost I
was it I was 17 pound 17 stone - alright
and I put on weight free depression 17
pounds - - and with just over three
weeks on and I'm I'm 1510 now so baby
it's a big drop for a short period time
and that's because of him you know
because I just think I thought screw
this I can't I can't keep killing myself
absolutely but it's a property yeah I'd
say I'd say that was my defining moment
I needed to do something to help my son
and to have my family well we're in
hospital whilst all that stuff was going
on with transit bills coming in needed
to pay and what people don't show you is
you know obviously you don't have the
support you know the supports maybe late
Iran after a while a little bit of
support here in there so it's charitable
support you know if you get a case
through negligence then you get support
later on down the line
but even then you've got support where
people assume or you know you thought
you got proper support your support so
it's actually like that last night you
know I had about four hours sleep which
is standard now most people don't get
that they think that's weird but that's
standard for us and like we've got with
three carry Shaw so you know my wife and
I cover in that you know
I got full-time care 24/7 well he's
supposed to Apple we've never had
full-time 24 not for seven years it's
just impossible it's just we struggle to
get people you know what you get it it's
like it's like yeah unfortunately our
home has become a business in terms of
like it's a care home you know but you
know what in the last year he's been
really stable so you know it's taking a
lot more there's less hospital visits
and stuff like that so you know he's
been really really stable and you know
he sees making massive massive strides I
mean he was declared blind he was
declared death
we know he can see now he's using on I
guess how much he can see we don't know
I truly believe it's with the therapy we
did with that research we did with
Christine Ramon which basically involved
putting a torch in the eyes and
switching on and off watch the people
open and grow he'd never met a flinch to
talk through the light and he could
flinch and then so at night me and my
wife throughout the night with taking
turns and just through four hours
you know switched it has to be tungsten
not a blue like they can screw through
the eyes er it has to be like those
old-fashioned boulders you know yellow
ones and yeah and you just watch his
body so he's like my sergeant is I I
recite which open and grow grew and
closing and and yeah off and then
eventually after months of doing that
once I think is my wife in the in the
bathroom she was he wasn't sleep and
seals up with him and she was just doing
it bless her persevering on and she's
just called me and I'm not military went
in there and the lights were all off I
put the lights on and I put the lights
on because you had a torch and he
changed the hell Wow
and she goes let's see he did it to you
as well I'm like wow that's crazy
so ya know it's mine it's mine so is
that and then again he was fed through
the tube and we retrained him through a
like a milk bottle he couldn't move his
mouth off he couldn't in his brain
damage basically he's brain damaged but
and we used to squeeze the teat you know
and then move his bottom of his chin
with our finger just dissolved so get
him into a sort of like you know any now
he takes it takes food from the weekend
from Holly is it
it's it's been hard it's been hard man
but you know perseverance what can I say
and that's what it is and I think it's
difficult because obviously I can't
relate to anything that you've gone
through in that situation but using that
as an example so my foster siblings
say pastor Simmons there were initially
foster siblings we went through special
guardianship so three of my siblings
have had similar what's gonna call it
disabilities growing up as well so for
instance the older one he's got a mental
age which is less than half his age
we've got one who's on the autistic
spectrum yeah and when they came into my
life a little bit which is why I
resonate with your story a bit is it
change my whole perception of life and
everything that I used to mourn about
the silliest things now I'm grateful for
and I know you know we all sending out
quotes every single day and we're all
trying this positive beacon of light but
I genuinely had them within my followers
as well similar to yourself and it's
near when I'm there feeling crappy or
feeling sorry for myself because I don't
know the car tires flat or something
something daft perspective but these
kids are finding them much harder battle
them then I'm having to fight and yes
it's commendable because I don't want to
make this about property because anyone
that wants to know my calling properties
new fantastic and you've got podcasts
out for that and you can reach out to
him afterwards but this is more about
you as a person who's taken this use you
change the perception you've dealt with
the cars that you are handed it's not
fair I can't explain only thing anyone
can explain why weird out certain cards
but all we can do is play with them the
best way that you can a new kind of I
know you very quickly scaled up after
that and maybe that's because your back
was against the wall I suppose and yeah
you spy on me I mean there's a my
favorite quote and I promote it in one
of my groups could effusive entrepreneur
it's called it's from Jack London and
it's a it's basically about you know
playing a bad hand well basically yeah
and there's an ace of cards you know ace
of hearts on the card you can you can
always play a bad hand well and so
basically don't even if you you can do
feels like on them on the outside of it
you might feel like you're losing it's
how you play or how you react to that
that counts so example is in property
is I mean add a commercial to
residential big one
I'm Birmingham it's 15 rooms in the end
and it was my my first commercial and my
second project in property and I pretty
much jumped the gun a bit but we have
everything complying at us literally and
it was really stressful and at the same
time as going through moments or like
I've been for my own health care
problems I was going through cancer
scare myself and there's a lot going on
obviously my son and you know dealing
with deal certain builders oh my god
nightmare and getting things wrong and
it was just you know massive learning we
had contamination issues we had we had
all sorts of problems just cracking on
but you know again look at my my son on
my photo on my on my phone and I talk
about my son but I actually used my son
as a metaphor for my family yeah because
my kids that my children Ellie Maria two
girls they're just as amazing Maria for
instance she's actually disabled as well
but people don't know it and she's got
some good Zubaz syndrome where middle
part of her head the brains not fully
formed and really rare and it can happen
by being sheared and my bum or I've been
shitty stressed at birth and it can be
it can happen from genes and all
something that it's not our genes
because we checked them and you know it
basically she's got autistic issues she
could go blind that she grows older
because the protein doesn't protect her
eyes and all this kind of stuff but she
could have been worse I mean apparently
they're not supposed to have balance and
can't walk but she she fires us all I
mean she was she was born and had was
shaken her lace and Eliza liked she had
nystagmus and head wouldn't stop shaking
so she's trained a brain to you know to
planets her eyes and and she's learned
you know to keep straight and she she's
talking to normal school she's doing
everything she's you know she's only
four or five now and she's doing really
really well and I she's got little
tantrum tantrums but not doesn't quite
understand certain stuff but I mean I'd
say but now she's still more behaved
some children I know that haven't got
nearly so I class
I think I don't sort of put out there
just because she's not disabled really
you know he is on paper but she's not so
for me you know it's almost like my son
was brought there to sort of like help
us deal with the shit that's to come if
that makes sense my thought was like
that and we didn't have no problems
before and all the stuff for the
property stuff I don't I think what
would have hit was hard but going
through sheer hell you know when my son
really sort of prepared us a lot for a
lot of stuff oh it came I understand
that but I think sometimes it's funny
because I don't wish anyone to really go
through pain it's not yeah yeah but that
makes me feel sad when I know people are
going through pain but sometimes I feel
people need to experience some level of
adversity you know not to really find
focus and change their life as well and
as much as I'm trying to tell people
don't wait for that wake-up call for
example don't wait for to find out that
your child may need extra care for
example or you've been hit with the
illness get out there and do it now and
I suppose it's easier said than done
because if nobody's having to live the
life Safe Routes that you've lived for
example yeah well like my siblings they
don't really have that agency my it's
frustrating I get frustrated because I'm
like we are so blessed like beyond means
even what we're doing now being able to
communicate how we eyes Isis anything
yeah absolutely I mean there's so much
horrible stuff out there in the world
and it's just you know it's crazy to you
know to to not be grateful for what
we've got and and and you know when you
see people that are grateful when
they've got little and we've all been
there we've all been them in some way in
our minds we've been at the greatest of
lows and it could be from spitting out
with your boyfriend or girlfriend
it could be splitting up with you know
you know a JV partner I don't know the
point a point is you know at that point
it could be serious the most absolute
low you know you could have health
issues cancer issues family there's all
sorts we've had that as well in this
period and that n is it's not great it's
not great but at the same time you know
I've always said one of my sayings is
like you know we will never you know
we'll never
I don't get my words up today well we're
never given a Golden Path
it was never we never no one promised us
anything you know and so and so like if
you want something you've got to go and
get it you either fail or you success
fall you know and if you're successful
great if you fail get up and do it again
and keep trying that and even if you've
got no money or anything there's always
away you know and you know what worst
comes to the worst I'm dying from
something it's if you've got your mind
in the right mind and you think you know
what I was conceived that's amazing I
lived a few years that's amazing if you
get your mind in the right mind you
still be grateful even when you're dying
you know I mean and we've seen other
witness people like that you know yeah I
love that mindset you just touched on
something and make sure we add it at the
end of the show you've got a group you
just say yeah I've got I've got a group
it's called the effusive entrepreneur
okay so anything about stuff like these
entrepreneurs is in the name but about
your mindset as well well it's actually
I do marketing I do it mine only a
marketing training and that's like a
little group I actually put more effort
in my closed group which is people in my
arm in a number the thing for me is like
I literally had a VA that was helping me
out on that side of things
and she literally went AWOL live just
randomly went AWOL and I don't know what
happened I really don't know but she's
from Philippines
it just went AWOL so yeah looking at a
decent VA at the moment I think I found
one
we'll see how it goes but yeah now I
need to push push put more engagement in
that group from being honest with you
okay yeah I know it's a great group I've
got loads of people about I think about
300 people in the group yeah I do
engagement but not as much as I like
I've got a couple of other groups have
got one called it's magnetic marketing
system is another group it's just
basically a really secret one group
where it's just the people that I train
arm property marketing getting leads
about business and all that kind of
stuff an investment it's a small very
small group at the moment I've got a few
people that you guys know some really
great people successful people right in
there and yeah
so that's going really well gonna be
open that up again soon um yeah just
I've got my event in London that's
causing a lot of bloody Wow yeah my son
right that's marketing again it's going
to be we've got we've got a Khadija the
apprentice star she's gonna be there
we've got a YouTube expert you know he's
helped Samuel Leeds get from 50,000 to
150,000 something a lot you know he's
talking it's all about marketing it's
gonna be it's gonna be awesome and can
fit about 480 people at the Marriott
Hotel in London it's my event big
pressure on me it's only 16th and 17th
of March this year prices start at 97
pounds but you get actually what we're
doing now we get got this program
actually that I'm affiliated to and
we're going to be offering people free
access to this program which is you know
pretty amazing yeah any other ticket
prices which basically covers their
costs on the bottom ticket easily and
basically they could create landing
pages you know can forgive the email
system within it so if you want to build
your own website that's the and
templates in there so they get that for
free
I haven't launched it yet but you've
heard it here first on our I'm just
gonna say you were saying your nervously
I'm sure you don't need any more
motivation than just to look at your
phone before that exactly exactly that
may be right yeah okay absolutely that I
see it I mean I guess that the
nervousness is the fact that you know
it's a it's a big thing you'd love to
fill it out you know you care about it
care about I've got 15 speakers and many
come from abroad there's people like you
know top and marketers making 40 50
grand a month you know it's crazy but a
figure of guy there
their partnership guys and and and you
know it's yeah it's it's this pressure
you know but it's great it's great now
I'm like you know I'm one of these like
you know it's easy for me to go easy
coming to go you know what you've got to
try these things what does Rob Moore say
don't the risk you know basically
absolutely yeah yeah I'm sure
well yeah I'm so it's all quite a few
tickets not enough but we've only just
launched so you know it's a it's
something we pushing out there look
forward to it make sure you media
information is
after this and I'll send you a signature
notes it's automated I said it put a lot
of people it's good for you know coaches
anyone wanting to launch an event anyone
that's in marketing wants to do a bit
more marketing on their property and get
some really great bubbly gonna get some
tools for it
fantastic okay brilliant so you actually
doing like more stuff than I knew about
you I know I know of course he's a
full-time dad and I thought that would
be taking up all your time but here you
are making your own events and
everything so another question then so
you're successful in what you've done in
terms of the property you're doing a
great job with your children and your
family so what's the day like from the
moment you wake up tell you got like 17
or yeah I bet I am
I wake up about four or five in the
morning right sometimes going to bed
late unfortunately but it's not my
choice no that's not by choice that's
actually by habit now that's initially
it wasn't by choice now if I'm being
honest with you the reality is I could
sleep a little bit longer but I've just
it's just become me now if I can get
sleep and I accidently sleep through
that because all exhausted or whatever
and and actually doing this diet it's
really helping me so if my son doesn't
disturb me and doesn't wake up and that
you know I could easily go into 7:00
you know easy yeah well it's it's just
um it's just nice you know I actually
get a good rest when I go to like events
you know you know so but my schedule is
basically get about four or five I I
always turn ask me why it's really
strange but I always always come
downstairs I eat a banana
randal cake I'm not banana man
my first thing I do a banana I go to my
son I give him a really big kiss because
he's exhaust get ready has his dinner
and he's get ready for his he's like
specialist school a given big kiss the
girls are still in bed and my son's lot
obviously awake and then I start looking
at my schedule for the day I never
follow it just to me
okay he's organized work just look at it
yes I'm aware of it because what happens
when I start creating a website or
landing page for someone
or final for someone to help convert you
know get people to event or through
Facebook ads or whatever I'm doing for
people I end up like getting engrossed
in the computer and some way it's gonna
be supposed to be an hour it ends up
being longer so so setting time because
for me doesn't and and what I do is I
just make sure I do the stuff and and I
make sure I do it at whatever cost and
so I do I literally do that and I try
and mix it with the children like I have
the computer here in the living room mo
more often on by my bed upstairs on my
bed believe in our it's not the best
comfortable thing to do here because of
the reception's better there you know a
billion you get piece if the kids are
kind of well-behaved watching TV I like
to kind of come here in that but if it's
too noisy I just can't I just can't over
this I've got like a an outbuilding as
well that I converted for a training
suite and I've got an office there that
needs a little bit more finishing off
but it's pretty much burn so I'm gonna
start and can start utilizing that more
just gets a bit cold I've got the heat
is on there in that but it's like you go
warm it up for like an hour or so before
and today I can't be asked you know just
a lot stay upstairs on my bed and just
do my work you know not a great thing to
do but now I've got a proper PT involved
with my exercise we're gonna make it
that part of my schedule something to do
this year try and get you know not just
use the lose the the fat actually gets
physically more stronger and you know
getting care scheduling for that at
least I think for me there's anything on
schedule that I want to do I'm pushing
my marketing efforts because a lot
people while so I've been my property
journey you know I've had a few podcasts
and interviews and so on I've not really
promote it'll push what I what I trained
in you know design and marketing and and
I've had a few people approached me over
the years from property world and it's
like I've helped them massively I've
helped people like were there you know
they might have a 399 ebook and I make
them 15k within a couple of months in
just Facebook ads but
by promoting a book you know and it's
it's I know I'm good at what I do but I
don't
and III this is my biggest flaw I don't
like selling I don't like selling and
I'm one of rob mores mentors and I've
signed up to his thing cuz I got really
good at helping people value their
selves helping them realize their worth
and he said something recently he said
he said something about when people say
oh I don't need to sell myself I don't
need yeah I don't need to sell myself
people come to me that's me that's me
man I hate to admit it it's like I get I
get work it just comes to me right but
actually imagine what I'd do if I should
start promoting myself you know leave it
so much on the table yeah I'm leaving so
much on the table almost I almost don't
give a crap because I'm designing my own
life you know I mean yeah at the same
time if I really want to get to my goal
my goal is actually to eventually be
able to afford to buy an Ironman suit
for my son some sort of give him the
independence thought we know that's
gonna cost millions and if I want to get
to that goal at that you know at that
point then I'm gonna have to do better
than this sort of like you know just you
know happy happy that enough works
coming my way and people using me that
way I think I should be you know
professionalizing myself a little bit
more and and valuing myself more to the
point that I should promote myself it's
just that there's a nervousness of
promoting yourself I mean I think you've
probably seen it amongst the the the
forums and that people kind of think
your guru rising yourself or you know
like oh god who's another person
thinking a minute I had a business
before hello you know these people
business before and what you do in
business is you promote a market that's
what you're supposed to do you know
they're almost I allow myself to be
affected by other people's judgments
which you can't do even myself I mean I
promote myself a lot more recently
especially in the last 12 months in
terms of like my own brand and me as a
person that initially was the hardest
thing I've ever had to do and the whole
point of like you need to know your
Worth and stuff
we were spoken to me I thinking one of
my first jobs when I was young as a
project manager and my manager at the
time because I came out of me
you know when they ask you what's
special about you give three things as
an icebreaker I was like nothing I'm
just I'm just me yeah he told me
afterwards because he he listed like a
few things that he found special about
me and long story short he was that if
you don't blow your own trumpet nobody
else is gonna in this world because of
the way the moment is and I don't know
you always resonated with me and it
still took me the best part of seven
eight years later on to real stuff I'm
thinking if I can just do this and not
really worry about the engagement and
kind of just be like look I've got a
message here I want to share it it comes
from the heart it's honest if you
resonate with it fantastic if you don't
not a problem so it was difficult for us
because they used to send it off and
you're kind of looking at your phone
thinking what's gonna happen and now
it's kind of like I just Lars a and
people ask me that how did you write
content and I say I don't like really
write contact a kind of document like my
life kind of things like you've done
something a property I'll speak about it
if it's health and fitness I'll speak
about it if it's like an interesting
meeting I'll just speak about it and
hopefully I always try and give people
some sort of tangible yeah information
that they can take away I think you
should be that because I didn't know you
were doing all these amazing crazy
wonderful things yeah a bit here in
there I do you know I mean I'll get my
flap out on flipping social media just
to really put myself available to the
world you know that I'm gonna lose
weight and I say I wrote i put a vision
I put watch this miraculous journey of
this of me this is anyway and I've done
it in three weeks already there's no
ultimate accountability
you know ridicules you that you're gonna
be it's embarrassing
a whole lot the source stuff but at the
same time you know for the first time in
my life we have tried different diets
since what happened to my son I put a
lot of weight on the first time in my
life I'm facing it head-on so yeah oh
you and look at my fat mass yeah I'm
here
absolutely even my addictions and I call
them addictions because that's all I've
ever eat and then it's like I literally
get urges for this stuff isn't my port
my secrets of this diet is I'm facing it
and I call it the no BS lifestyle diet
okay basically I put Pringles fizzy
drinks and I've got a packet of Haribo
outside of my bed
oh no Quinn okay right and I sleep with
them by the side of my bed and I wake
that with the word we
because I had to face my addictions yeah
yeah and it's a bit like that in
property when people would like go to
training training training training
training training training training
training training the good mentors were
saying you got to do you've got to just
you know and and I you know I'm a course
drinking I'm proud of it I'm proud of it
I'm a course drunk eating for two main
reasons number one it's always good even
if you already know the stuff to go over
again it's good to get reminders right
but number two and this is the biggest
one
mentors need Mentors even if you're
whatever level you are and all my
mentors have got mentors themselves you
know I mean Nick James is mentorship
I've been under song azuki's mentorship
I mean Rob Moore's mentorship you know
the reality is and I I mentor other
people myself yeah and I truly believe
that you you've got to really be what's
the word humble enough to want to keep
learning absolutely and there's a lot of
people that are arrogant and feel like
the only courses well good for you happy
you do not everyone wants to work that
way I actually love people right I love
networking I love people but I love
genuine people that I've got integrity
they're true to them certainly I really
can't stand people that fake I hate it
and I can sense them a mile away and and
I always when I talk about marketing's
be true to yourself just be yourself and
people attract to you and a good friend
of ours Camilla does the sa stuff I
would say so name
can we look oh yeah she's exactly great
and I mentor mentoring in marketing as
well but it's usually just started to be
fair and and you know she's a really
great she's doing massive should be
really successful and she's doing it by
just being herself she's been brilliant
you know and you know we all learn off
each other I've learned a lot of Simon's
uchi I've learned a lot of Rob more I've
learned a lot of Nick James you know
I've got another mentor that is you know
definitely need him because he's like
he's like a sales machine he really
knows he's you know he's good he's got a
product called open with a closing
doesn't do its Leslie it's just like you
know you want my product is I'm worth
this much and you know so this is what
it is and he's named my Elwell really
great guy amazing guy getting hired by
some really top guys at the moment
because he's easy really is you know
legend or what he does and so yeah I
want to constantly improve I want to be
I want to be my ultimate self before I
die and I know more than a lot of people
know life it's bloody short man
it really is severely because of your
experiences yeah absolutely yeah
yeah I think you touch on quite a few
things with your whole I'm looking
forward to it but I actually lose 42
pounds in seven and a half weeks myself
so what I want to do boxing never go to
the gym and I was a think was about 24
at the time and there was like seven
year-olds two ten-year-olds very cheeky
little kids and I'd to go for a room
with him so I told the kids because then
I was all the way and I could I couldn't
run more than like 200 meters and all I
could hear him was saying come on old
man come on Batman and all these kind of
like really literally me facing it but I
took I took it personally I was like
I'll get you back and then with a love
working working my ass off basically for
the next two months it really really
helped and there is no magic formula to
anything whether it's property whether
it's health and fitness whatever it is
literally you just got to go and do it
and then if you you learn a little bit
you pivot I hope that's called it on my
uncle my own podcast called Mike drops
get okay I guess my drop is call mine
yet close and I've interviewed a couple
of a top level you know we're talking
really high level guys in America my
calls another guy called les Evans and
11 there's Evan said a thing to me he
said he said um he said people think
there's an easy route to success but
it's all hard work even when it doesn't
look that way and he said even if you're
people just speak in the thing they're
just speaking they're successful from
speaking and
and he's brilliant at that is amazing
amazing me he's gonna you know he's he's
advised people in the White House he's
done all sorts he's just bum a lot the
guys absolutely legend and he's had
become a really good friend of mine and
and he was saying to me you know I
remember it was on the lines of like I
remember when you said pedal stall
people like that look big and famous and
he became himself but in the end they're
just flipping normal people and what
people don't understand is that you know
they want to laugh you know they want to
get on you know they don't to be used
and and and there's a lot of truth in
that and there and there's a lot of
people do assume they also die they
connected that way back I used to give
him a lot of my time for free and in the
end I ended up blocking him and this is
where you learn about time for money and
it wasn't yeah it was like you every
every conversation about a heart I've
tough your love to have your lives love
to out Matt me yeah I'd live in a
flipping shed and have my son healthy
you won't want my life trust me it's not
great but you know it's not as great as
you think it is you know and and it was
just constant constant constant constant
like you know like MV and it wasn't the
nice he wasn't moving forward is that I
want to get 200 houses within two years
and he was like really unrealistic yeah
all right 10x it I you know go for it
you know I hate that comment that word
clinics it got you know I love what
Grant Cardone is about I just hate the
10x it that side of it not because I
don't believe in it I believe in it
it's just that I see if thrown around
too freely now and and like by people
that could potentially really screw
their lives over if they do try to 10x
it you know and where they feel that you
know they've been inspired and they can
just rush ahead you've got to get the
education in I don't care what you know
you got to build the foundations he's
got to build the foundations and and
then and then to exit first you know and
then check out what you know check out a
flavor for it and then check out what X
might be you know I don't like the 2x
you know I'm not doing us a great point
I think we're in the
society obviously with the whole
Instagram highlight reels and nobody's
really posting stuff that is like their
bad days of supposed and I supposed
indirectly I don't know how but when I
was getting a bit of traction in like
the property groups it was because I was
just Oakley admit all my mistakes up
something I was just documenting again
like listen I am probably the worst guy
a property talking three years ago I was
a look I made this mistake I've made
this and people resonated with that so
indirectly actually helped 9% of the
time it is lychee everyone showing their
best date on a highlight reel and I
think we get that thing and then people
read the secret and it's all this
wishful thinking and it's like listen it
is goes back to what you said earlier do
it do it you've just got to face it and
do it just exactly I mean madness you're
spot on and the crazy thing is is that
I've been exactly the same I've done
podcasts and I've been honest just
straight on you know I'll straight up
with out loud you didn't want to hear it
we didn't want to hear it I'm like you
know and and cut long story short the
the realities that they won't value in
my time but I wasn't violent valuing it
I can't blame them it's actually
something that I get a trouble from from
my wife so I'm always trying to help as
many people as I can so I'm always
having these one-hour coffees that going
to like one and a half hours or
conversation 15 minutes or less yeah and
then at the end of its like I've got no
time to spend with my wife for example
yeah because I'm just trying to help but
then most of those people they'll come
back with pretty much the same kind of
questions or concerns two months later
having done nothing
you're almost yourself and I think I'm
similar to you in that respect which is
there's some great points that you made
days that I need to start my new my time
a little bit there yeah not so much I
know I need to charge for example it's
on the faith basis that is this person
really going to do it and what I've
started doing as of the last two days is
taking calls on the way to the gym so
I'm like you've got ten minutes with me
far away I'll kind of give you
everything I've got I know it's working
okay because it kills that time to the
gym so yeah absolutely yeah it's not
eating a weigh-in time that you which is
valuable time is valuable time time I've
said entire book emergency we have you
know in the lane if if if people don't
value your time
mmm bug you you spell as I and why work
with people that don't value you they're
just picking and sponging your brain
because they can't be asked again spend
the money on the courses and the
education and or go through the grit in
the action that you've gone through in
the pain that you've gone through they
just want to just you know squeeze your
sponge brain and get all the bloody Evo
out you know those people it doesn't
make us a you know this is not a you
know I'm holy than now I'm perfect I I
know my share you know this has just
just been honest with the situation you
know so I absolutely love helping people
I really do it's just some people just
don't value your time enough so okay
we're gonna change gears a little bit
we've spoken about adversity which is
one of the main drivers like in your
life and I don't wish it on anyone to go
through the same kind of stuff but we
all go through something what I would
ask you though is a different question
is about fear so it's probably a common
question but I want to know what is your
biggest fear but I want to stop and take
away what I think he's gonna be your
first answer from doing some Daryl Brown
tactics here so you can't mention your
your children or your wife in this
scenario but what is your biggest fear
as as yourself my biggest fear for
myself is not accomplishing my dreams
okay and my dreams are actually yes they
are to be able to get enough money to
afford certain things from my family and
I'm not supposed to mention them but my
actual my dreams are to actually be
successful and proud enough to know that
you know that boy in school that was at
loss was crap had to have extra
education was themed
you know classes dyslexic really smashed
it regardless he's not I mean and and so
you know for me to start that would
really be probably my biggest fear stop
him from for me I really I really want
to get aspire to inspire is what I want
to do right and the way you inspire is
by doing great things and and those
great things could be I give a lot to
charity myself I donated just over four
thousand
pounds Christmas do recently you know
and and before that I've donated loads
and even my book my little spot and that
I've written for my son all the all the
money from that including the cost of
making it which most people don't do
they has gone to different charities you
know everything wasn't a lot you know
because these costs of these profits
carry yeah yeah and even before that
even you know I've just constantly you
know every year given in some form to
charity and the point is this like it's
not because I'm you know I want to be
seen as you know are what passive and uh
and people that know with me will know
this is true so I could be a property
meet in and we're walking up the road
for me laughter and I'll just give
twenty pounds of baby homeless man I
don't record it I don't you know but
people that would mean no it yeah I
don't do it for you know I know in
London wherever I am if I see someone
I'll donate and you know and I don't
care if they're they look like they're
druggies well it's not at the end of the
day I because I'm not gonna judge you
know they can do what the hell they want
with it
you know I want to give if I've got it
you know and if it helps them it helps
them I just get I don't need to promote
it or anything that but the reality is
although ironically there's a promote in
this podcast estrangement but honest is
like where we're and it's just merely
answering your question you know my goal
is to aspire to inspire to inspire and
if I can do that for my kids and other
people and great you know and and if it
means like you know giving when you
haven't even got it and I've done that
and and you know it's like then you know
you do you leaving some sort of trail of
legacy wait wait people might not
remember me you know but you know
someone might you know yeah I don't know
but at the end of the day it's strange I
haven't made haven't made it in in my
mind a successful property developer or
marketing agency in my mind I've got a
long way to go but I'll also at the same
time I don't want to have a lot you know
I want to be comfortable I don't want to
have like the two hundred thousand
living rooms and what
acquiring to do well you know I really
don't I don't envy people like that when
I see people doing well I'm like good on
you I'm yeah I really I never had the
jealous I never I just truly think good
on you the ones I don't like are the
ones that do it and they're they're
horrible assholes you know I mean these
people win don't they yeah yeah okay
fantastic no I know that that makes
sense I think I'm very similar as well
in relation to what you saying there and
just on that analogy song I've had going
off on a bit of a tangent here people
who are quite charitable but they'll
never give to somebody who maybe they
assume is gonna have alcohol and drugs
or something and my philosophy has
always been I mean growing up and the
way my mom's always talking is just give
whatever you can give but and the base
is that maybe maybe your donation that
they will just change that person's
perspective or life and providing you're
not just throwing it at home and maybe
you can just give it a try contact will
have a good day or something so I just
give him that lift that they need all
just to keep him going for another day
so I'd always urge people whatever you
can give this absolutely give but yeah I
can't imagine you being somebody's gonna
be taking a selfie while you're doing
that I mean and the truth is I should be
you know utilizing it for you know but
at the same time it's it's not it
doesn't sit right
you know it doesn't sit right so you've
heard the buzzer it's going off so what
I'm gonna do now is but Mike with three
spaces for the next 60 seconds and he's
all I do basically whatever the first
answer comes into your head please give
me that one and you ready mate I'm cool
I'm ready okay we're gonna start in
three two one
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fly money or fame fame singing or
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YouTube Marvel or DC are Marvel easily
would you rather know how you were dying
or when you would i how love or money
love books or movies i love books
actually if you could sit with one
person in the world for an hour who
would it be I would love to sit with
Donald Trump to figure out why the hell
looking weird and
go ahead going on I just I'm just
perplexed and also kind of yeah it's a
weird one
that we interested yeah you're worse be
a growing up fighters actually okay and
finally what is your biggest addiction
my biggest might what was my biggest
addiction was slight wrinkles and yeah
wrinkles my biggest addiction at the
moment is learning junkie for learning
and just some Pringles because I'm a
Pringles fun as well what's your
favorite cocktail sorry I don't get me
thinking the next one's on reflection
yeah we've spoken about this earlier
we've spoken about hindsight being a
wonderful thing how you can teach you to
get to where you are quicker easier or
with less heartache for example but
knowing what you know now and with your
life experiences and obviously your
mindset now if you could go back to a
time maybe when you were younger maybe
going through college or school and you
can just whisper something in your ear
knowing how life would pan out for you
and just to kind of maybe motivate or
inspire that young Michael what would
you say I would say you're able to do
anything you put your mind to because I
really believe growing up because I was
told it you know my teacher I didn't
have a good attention span and my
teacher must teacher said to me oh
you're gonna end up as a glassblower she
was old fashioned herself and most
people didn't really kind of connect
with her if I'm being honest with you
but that really thought I thought what
the hell you know kind of thing to say
that just because I you know and I
wasn't interested in her lessons I just
would and again it goes down to what we
read in property marketing people could
be connected you know whatever you do in
it's about attention and connection
right you've got to get the attention to
be noticed and you've got to connect so
if you're going to get an investor to
come to you you've got to get the
attention you've got to do that one way
or another and then you've got to
connect and you can only connect by
being you because long term wise you
know it's a marriage you know it's
simply that absolutely and it's the
easiest thing to do be yourself rather
than trying be someone else off man do
not have some music but I see people my
god and I just cringe and I know that it
makes me cringe
I see people they've been I
I won't even touch into it too much but
there's people that mean there's a
particular person that's training the
same people when they're like they're
following the same moves and everything
in their acting the same as this person
exactly in every way and it's a it's
squiggly it's creepy and windy it is and
the problem with it is as well if you're
copying somebody else you're almost
relying on them to do something you know
the few to follow see as a policy if you
just make your own journey and write
your own story I've got one thing where
I've got respect for these people that's
all for helping them is they've already
taken a step at least they're getting
themselves out of the shell and they do
something but but seeing exact copies
it's just yourself yourself it's like
have you ever seen those live videos
when they're sat there quietly for like
flipping five minutes I'm like I don't
like it I just it's just great I'm like
I just talk shit for a bit I say to
people okay just talk shit wait to
people come on
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and that's not always like to ask my
guess is if in 150 years time and you
are no longer here but all that exists
is a book and it's about your life and
somebody's walking past and they pick up
this book what would the blurb say and
also what would be the title of the book
well already written it it's called my
little spot on the globe
it says embrace your struggle to find
your strength and pretty much what we
talked about today and and I it has a
sub heading saying unleash your lip in a
spa and because we've all gotten in this
part and and what I mean by that it's
not a judgment thing on Spartans and
while it's just the fact that you know
against the odds it's a metaphor
it's against the odds they know they're
gonna die but they're fighting all they
can yeah and that's the point at the end
of the day we're all gonna freakin die
but let's just see what we can do you
know that's all we can do but you know
you know the end of a that's why I don't
mind helping people as much as I can
because that you know any bit of help
you get out there is what
nice absolutely Granta our future looks
already out yes my little spy Amazon
yeah best seller international
bestseller there you go is it oh wow
yeah i 100% put that in the bottom of
and the show notes as well alright it's
actually the first time somebody's
already answered my question and done my
question but what I always like to ask
people is there is somewhere they can
contact you now I know you're doing
amazing things all over the world in
networking marketing property you're an
author as well there's one place and I'm
just gonna limit it to one but I will
obviously add everything else afterwards
what is the number one place that you'd
prefer base for Facebook Facebook I'm 5m
I'm maxed out sorry guys so just listen
I've got another group page good Michael
V Calais Paris just a baby bear I'd be
there and start using it more now
because I'm that's my that's my own
that's my professional page so just want
them on to Michael V or try and message
me on on on my one at least and I'm not
try and connect and brilliantly it's
been a absolute pleasure like I said at
the beginning I reached out to you long
time we don't know yeah I love your
story you know that this is fascinating
promise there's live calls on them you
all get busy I haven't managed to
reconnect there so and thank you for
your time today you've been doing
awesome things as well okay it's good to
see and again like you know we reach out
to people that we connect with and like
and so on and you know obviously
responded back to you because I know
like and trust okay you know it works
the same way you know yeah that's how I
see it and and that's how that's how
relationships grow that's how investors
get involved that's how all this stuff
happens you know it's it's all about
that you know so absolutely absolutely
spinning it's been an absolute pleasure
and well as well thanks for listening
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