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This week, Tom Vander Ark is speaking with Hanna Skandera, the former Secretary of Education for the state of New Mexico. Prior to moving to New Mexico, Hanna served as the Deputy Education Commissioner for Florida as well as the Deputy Chief of Staff at the U.S. Department of Education.

Hanna learned a lot about agency and initiative from an early age. She began homeschooling at the sixth grade, continuing on through grade twelve. Hanna also began taking courses at her local community college at the age of just fourteen. She speculates that these experiences are likely what helped her accelerate through expansive career; teaching her how to be a self-learner, provided her with the curiosity needed, and helped her find a drive for what matters.

Join her and Tom today to discuss student agency, new education pathways, employability, as well as her new initiative: Pathway 2 Tomorrow, which is focused on transforming the current education system.

Key Takeaways:

[:15] About today’s episode.

[1:07] Tom welcomes Hanna to the podcast.

[1:12] Hanna talks about her early childhood experiences in education.

[6:10] Hanna speaks about why and how she got into education policy, as well as her various career experiences and opportunities.

[9:36] Local education issues in New Mexico and what Hanna tried to accomplish while she was the Secretary of Education there.

[11:55] Hanna’s take on education policy in the U.S.

[14:36] The challenges of getting education policy right.

[17:54] About Hanna’s initiative, Pathway 2 Tomorrow.

[22:29] What the winners’ proposals were for Pathway 2 Tomorrow.

[23:36] What’s Hanna’s ideas for post-secondary solutions?

[25:05] Hanna’s ideas about how to get young people to get the benefits of both post-secondary liberal arts education and employability.

[27:26] What Hanna is seeing on the horizon for transformation in higher education.

[28:32] Hanna asks an important question: “How do we … think about the role of social capital in the stewardship of our education and employability opportunities?”

[29:36] Why does Hanna think it’s important that we set a discourse on this subject today?

Mentioned in This Episode:

Hanna Skandera

No Child Left Behind Act (NCLB)

Gates Foundation

Tim Taylor

Pathway 2 Tomorrow (P2T)

A New U: Faster + Cheaper Alternatives to College, by Ryan Craig

In Defense of a Liberal Education, by Fareed Zakaria

America Succeeds

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