131: Poo-Covered Rocks with Cat Swetel


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01:40 - Cat’s Superpower: Knowing What Other People’s Superpowers Are (before they do!)

03:32 - Managing a Platform with Ancient Value

07:54 - Telling Stories Within Code: History Matters

10:11 - Cat’s Journey from Finance to Tech

13:47 - Exploring Systems

17:24 - Wardley Mapping

31:52 - The Penguin Story: Looking For Poo-Covered Rocks

37:53 - The Power of Observation and Reflection


John: Maintaining the history of an application.

Jessica: So much of the world is what we can’t see. There is value in those poo-covered rocks!

Avdi: When you see a bunch of people trying to get somewhere that you don’t understand, look for the poo-covered rock.

Cat: What would it look like if we had a platform bard?

Janelle: Scheduling specific time to stop, reflect, and observe as teams.

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