Parenting During Deconstruction - Nurturing the Spiritual Child and Adolescent - 129


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Parenting during deconstruction, nurturing the spiritual child and adolescent in our care and in our hearts -- Rev. Bonnie Rambob (from episodes #113 and #123) joins Allen and Jeff to delve into this much-requested topic. Drawing from Lisa Miller’s research, other sources and their own experiences with parenting and ministry, Jeff, Allen and Bonnie discuss ideas about natural spirituality and the spirituality of children and adolescents.

Bonnie shares her insights from parenting her kids (now adults) through her and her spouse’s (Raj Rambob from episodes #113 and #128) process of deconstruction, or as she calls it, spiritual metamorphosis. When it comes to parenting, hindsight is 20/20.

The conversation begins with definitions of spirituality and includes personal reflections on relating former fundamentalist expressions of spirituality and spiritual community to emerging spiritual understandings for the sake of our kids. Woven throughout the podcast is the latest research on helping kids develop their own spiritual cores which will help them get through life’s challenges and make meaning out of life.

Irenicast listeners have asked for a conversation on spiritual parenting during deconstruction and beyond. With Allen’s background as a youth pastor, Jeff’s wisdom as a parent and youth minister and Bonnie’s experience as a school teacher, children, youth and family minister, and a parent, this conversation is at least the beginning of a dive into navigating the complicated path of parenting as co-spiritual journeyers with our kids.

The episode ends with a Top Three segment in which each host’s top three childhood fears are revealed. It gets deep fast.

Conversation on Parenting During Deconstruction (01:33)

Top 3 Childhood Fears Segment (49:48)


From Our Conversation on Parenting During Deconstruction

From Our Top 3 Segment (See what other Top 3s we done on episodes #078, #105 and #116)

  • Alice in Wonderland Syndrome (also known as Todd's syndrome or dysmetropsia, a disorienting neuropsychological condition that affects perception)


Thank you to Rev. Bonnie Rambob for joining us on another episode of Irenicast.

Bonnie began her working life as a credentialed elementary, middle school, high school teacher and school principal in various school settings in Maryland, Virginia and California. In her teaching career, she discovered her passion for the spirituality of children and youth. After raising two sons, Bonnie pursued her dream of tending to the spiritual well-being of children, youth and families by completing an MDiv at Pacific School of Religion.

Currently, she serves Parkside Community Church as Minister for Young Adults and Families. While serving at the Congregational Church of San Mateo, Bonnie co-founded Peace Village San Mateo, an interfaith peace education day camp for kids ages 7-13 as well as an interfaith leadership program for high school youth and college students. She has written spiritual curriculum for children, teens and families. She has presented workshops on topics such as: the Spirituality of Parenting, Race and Young Children and Media Literacy for Families, to name a few.

Relying on her training and experience as an educator, minister and parent along with her heart’s desire for nurturing communities of loving relationships, Bonnie relishes the opportunity to provide support to families who are cultivating spirituality in their homes.


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Jeff Manildi | co-host and producer |

Jeff is the Director of Discipleship at a United Methodist church on the central coast of California and co-founder of Irenicast. In addition to getting his B.A. in Theology, he also received his ordination through the prestigious online organization of The Universal Life Church whose alumni include the likes of Conan O’Brien and Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson. Jeff loves all things that tell a story: people, movies, tv, music, comics, etc.

You can follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on Instagram, Facebook & Twitter. You can also listen to Jeff’s other podcast Divine Cinema.

Rev. Allen O’Brien | co-host |

Allen is the pastor of a UCC church in Northern California, resident chaplain at an area hospital, and co-founder of Irenicast. He believes in the importance of education, peace, and ecology and writes for multiple platforms.

You can follow Allen (@RevAllenOB) on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, & Good Reads. Also if you are in the Sacramento, CA area check out Allen’s brick and mortar version of this podcast called Intersections.


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