Kim Smith and John Goodson


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Movie Meltdown - Episode 400

This week we continue our coverage from WonderFest as we sit down with Kim Smith and John Goodson. Both are technical masters who spent years working at LucasFilm's Industrial Light and Magic, and they have logged in many years building physical models as well as transitioning into digital effects as the industry began to change around them. And while we try to make sense of this vortex of time and mysterious things, we also discuss... Assassin's Creed, Riverdale, fantastic carpet, sculpting, The Rocketeer, finding the hook, a 33-foot Zeppelin, a stormy night shot, if you wanna eat... you better learn something different to do, making farm equipment, painting, Star Wars: Episode III, Michael Fassbender, Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man’s Chest, very spooky sets, organically very technical, successful artist, whoa... no apple for you, sneak him on out of being dead, Scar's pretty awesome, I like his big sharky-grin, they want world peace but at the price of free will, an optical illusion going on in the hallway, drawing the animals, Con-Air, there would be ten bombs, weird creative projects, it was just a pile of burnt rubble, Peter Pan, Boeing pattern-makers, 28 foot-long miniatures, tandem bikes on winding twisty roads are not a good idea, the making of Star Trek book, doing research, it made me think, that sort of exploration was ok, Episode III, a very elaborate prototype, everything was being operated by humans, counting door knobs, pyro is sort of non-scientific, finding a squished penny, like the circus, he was a rubber monster guy, getting left and right out of the same side, problem-solving, a three-dimensional skeleton, the dioramas were amazing, on a grander scale... and a cheaper scale, scientific wild-ass guess, Kerosene bombs, I don't know why we were not electrocuted that night, it was awful and a little bit confusing and very disappointing, he smashed a model airplane, the idea of a picture in a frame is very much like a movie and... my mother and the wax fruit. "And that really made an impression. It scared me, but at the same time, I was totally intrigued by the model spaceship on TV. And my idea was, if I could get the TV apart, I could get the model out." For more on WonderFest, go to:

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