Lord Chaitanya's Conversations with Srila Ramanda Raya (Part 1)


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Lord Chaitanya replied, "That is external. Tell Me something more." Ramananda Raya said, "To renounce varnashram and to surrender to Krishna, that is the essence of perfection." And he quoted, sarva-dharman parityajya mam ekam saranam vraja aham tvam sarva-papebhyo moksayisyami ma sucah Abandon all varieties of dharma and just surrender to Me. I shall deliver you from all sinful reactions. Do not fear. Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu, He said, "That is very good, but please, say something more." He said, "Devotional service mixed with empiric knowledge is the essence of perfection. brahma-bhutah prasannatma na socati na kanksati samah sarvesu bhutesu mad-bhaktim labhate param Lord Chaitanya said, "That is external. Tell Me something more." Ramananda Raya spoke that, "Pure devotional service with no tinge of any mixture of empirical knowledge, that is the essence of perfection." Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu said, "That is all right, but please tell Me something more." Ramananda Ray said, "Ecstatic love for Krishna is the essence of perfection. And there is only one price for that ecstatic love, that is the intense greed to achieve it." Ramananda Ray said, "In that ecstatic love of Krishna, when it arises from the spontaneous feelings of the heart, one could love Krishna, as eternal servant." Lord Chaitanya said, "Please tell something more." Then he explained that, "Love of God in Sakhya Rasa, as a friend is the essence of perfection" And he gave example of cowherd boys. Mahaprabhu said, "Please go on. Tell more." He said, "Love of God in the mood of parent like Mother Yasoda, vatsalya rasa, is the essence of perfection" Mahaprabhu said, "Please tell Me more" He said, "The essence of all perfection is conjugal love, the love of Krishna for the gopis, and how when the gopis renounced everything to be with Krishna on the bank of Yamuna for the rasa Lila, Krishna appeared to them, and told them that, 'I cannot repay you for your love even in a lifetime of Brahma.' Thus, conjugal love is the essence of all perfection" And Ramananda Raya explained how in each progressively higher mood of rasa, of loving Krishna, all the others, preliminary to that are included. In conjugal love, is the full-fledged realization of vatsalya rasa, sakhya rasa, and dasya rasa. They are all included in conjugal love. And then Ramananda Ray said that, "Although each devotee, according to their particular relationship with Krishna, is completely satisfied and considers that particular relationship to be the supreme perfection and essence of the goal of life, still from a neutral, objective point of view, conjugal love is supreme because it includes all others, and therefore has the greatest capacity to attract Krishna." Lord Chaitanya said, "This is very good, but if you know something more, tell Me more."

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