Episode 35: Bruce Schneier on Truth, Reality, and Contact Tracing

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Doc Searls and Katherine Druckman talk to Bruce Schneier about contact tracing, digital identity, hacking, privacy, and regulation.

Show notes:

0:00:25: Contact tracing apps
0:02:31: Contract tracing false positive and false negative
0:04:24: Contract tracing apps adoption rate
0:07:36: Katherine agrees apps should build more trust
0:11:44: The 2nd anniversary of the GDPR
0:13:31: Bruce talks about his RSA presentation about the notion of hacking
0:15:26: Katherine dove tails hacking into contact tracing
0:18:24: Hacking discipline around SSI (Self Sovereign Identity)
0:19:08: Should we need proof of immunity or carry an immunization card/immunity passport?
0:23:28: Do the people we entrust to regulate our tech even understand it?
0:29:10: Should we give the FBI digital forensic capabilities?
0:32:24: Katherine wonders if our cellphones are at all secure
0:36:33: Doc ponders the future of travel
0:38:18: Bruce predicts we're in the midst of a major system reset
0:46:49: The political divide between the way people digest information
0:49:36: Bruce: "Truth wins because it actually conforms to reality."

Links:
Bruce Schneier on COVID-19 Contact Tracing Apps
Contact-tracing apps are not a solution to the COVID-19 crisis

Special Guest: Bruce Schneier.

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