Designing for Villains: Lou Rosenfeld interviews Eduardo Ortiz and Donna Lichaw

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Recorded March 28, 2014 at the IA Summit, San Diego Donna Lichaw @dlichaw http://www.greatnorthelectric.com/ Eduardo Ortiz @eduardoortiz http://about.me/efortiz Designing for Villains http://2014.iasummit.org/designing-for-villians/ Mary Gaitskill/Secretary http://marygaitskill.com/ http://www.secretarythemovie.co.uk/html/home.html Sanky Panky http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanky-panky

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