How To Run A World Class Training Program with Kevin Carr, Anders Varner, and Doug Larson — Barbell Shrugged #390


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Kevin Carr (@kev_in_carr) has already amassed a wealth of experience in the field of sports performance and personal training while working at Mike Boyle Strength and Conditioning in Woburn, Massachusetts. Working with everyone from US Olympians looking for a competitive edge to the Average Joe or looking to shed some pounds and get healthier he has helped countless clients move better and live healthier lives.

In addition to receiving a Bachelor Degree in Kinesiology from The University of Massachusetts-Amherst and a License in Massage Therapy from Cortiva Institute- Watertown, he is also credited with the completion of numerous continuing education certifications including FMS, SFMA, NKT Level 1 and 2, FRC, FAPP, Pn1, and PRI.

In this episode of Barbell Shrugged we talk about Kevin’s background, building a diverse foundation as a kid, where massage therapy fits into the picture, finding the window of opportunity for education, how to start tough conversations with parents, why principles lead to understanding, Kevin’s mission, why training is a recipe, not a menu, and much more.


- Anders and Doug

Episode Breakdown

0-10: Kevin’s background, using movement as medicine, combining exercise with massage work, and how Kevin got his start with Mike Boyle

11-20: When to specialize in sports, building a diverse foundation as a kid, and where massage therapy fits into the picture

21-30: Empowering people through movement, how loss of identity leads to pain, how to make a business work for everyone, the importance of referrals, and the culture of greatness

31-40: Identifying the outcome for the individual, knowing that not everyone trains for the same reason as you, and why building relationships with people is the best way to coach them

41-50: The majority of kids don’t become college athletes, unlearning bad habits, dealing with parents, finding the window of opportunity for education, and how to start tough conversations with parents

51-60: Teaching mental toughness in the kids you work with, how to create good adults, where kids coaches go wrong, and helping kids see the optimism in everything

61-70: Big picture vs. details, what’s missing in the fitness industry, the internship process, the principles of training, and why principles lead to understanding

71-80: Translating literature, the experience of working with Mike Boyle, the most valuable conversations Kevin and Mike have are not about training, and where the certification is going

81-90: Kevin’s mission, foam rolling and massage, how to define strength to parents who are scared of their kids lifting weights, and why training is a recipe, not a menu

91-100: It’s easier to workout when your life is balanced, values change as you get older, the stress people go through everyday, and implementing breathe work into training

101-114: The principles of coaching transfer to all aspects of life, how to build systems, the importance of a growth mindset, push back is part of life, accepting the risk of sport on health, and where to find Kevin


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