Episode 28: China: Coercion & Control with Matt Pottinger

The Breakdown with James Lankford

On this episode of the Breakdown with Senator James Lankford, Senator Lankford is joined by China expert & former Deputy National Security Advisor Matt Pottinger to talk China’s human rights abuses, their economic & military coercion and their efforts to take advantage of the rest of the world. More about Matt Pottinger: https://www.hoover.org/profiles/matt-pottinger Matt Pottinger is a distinguished visiting fellow at the Hoover Institution. Pottinger served the White House for four years in senior roles on the National Security Council staff, including as deputy national security advisor from 2019 to 2021. In that role, he coordinated the full spectrum of national security policy. He previously served as senior director for Asia, where he led the administration’s work on the Indo-Pacific region, in particular its shift on China policy. Before his White House service, Pottinger spent the late 1990s and early 2000s in China as a reporter for Reuters and the Wall Street Journal. He then fought in Iraq and Afghanistan as a US Marine during three combat deployments between 2007 and 2010. Following active duty, he founded and led an Asia-focused risk consultancy and ran Asia research at an investment fund in New York.