50 Outwitting Back Pain with Cathryn Jakobson Ramin

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Cathryn Jakobson Ramin who is an investigative journalist, a Lecturer, and the Author of the book Crooked: Outwitting the Back Pain Industry and Getting on the Road to Recovery, which is a brilliant and comprehensive book that is essential to millions of back pain sufferers and health-care professionals.
Cathryn Jakobson Ramin shatters assumptions about surgery, chiropractic methods, physical therapy, spinal injections, and painkillers and addresses evidence-based rehabilitation options describing in great detail, how to avoid therapeutic dead ends while saving money, time, and considerable anguish.
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50 Outwitting Back Pain with Cathryn Jakobson Ramin Transcript

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SPEAKERS

Cathryn Jakobson Ramin, Mike, Adam, Tim Edwards

Cathryn Jakobson Ramin 00:05

The reason that exercise is successful with back pain patients is that it ends what really is the plague the back pain patient which is fear avoidance behavior, and catastrophizing and guarding. Those are three factors that we know of from basically they all come from behavioral psychology, but they are very, very prevalent in back pain patients and people who tend in that direction are the ones who frequently end up in chronic pain.

Tim Edwards 00:44

We are halfway to 100 Hello inform nation and welcome to episode number 50 of the inform fitness podcast with New York Times bestselling author and founder of inform fitness. Adam Zickerman. I'm Tim Edwards with the inbound podcasting network and a client of inform fitness. Adam Zickerman and Mike Rogers will be joined today by Cathryn Jakobson Ramin, who is an investigative journalist, a lecturer, and author of the book, crooked, Outwitting the back pain industry and getting on the road to recovery, which is a brilliant and comprehensive book that is essential to millions of back pain sufferers and healthcare professionals in Katherine's book, and in this episode, Catherine shatters assumptions about surgery, chiropractic methods, physical therapy, spinal injections and painkillers and addresses evidence based rehabilitation options. Describing in great detail how to avoid therapeutic dead ends while saving money, time, and most importantly, considerable anguish. Now if after listening to this episode, you decide to pick up Katherine's book, we will have a link in the show notes to audible trial.com forward slash inbound That's audible trial.com, forward slash inbound. And if you are not yet an audible member, you can sign up for a free 30 day trial membership and download the audio book crooked for free. If you decide to cancel your membership for any reason, you keep the book if you are already an audible member, and have cashed in your Free Audiobook download, then you'll receive a considerable discount on any of audibles 180,000 titles to choose from. Again, that's Audible trial.com forward slash inbound to get your free book just scroll on down to the show notes and you're one click away.

Adam 02:35

Hello everybody. Welcome to the show. This is gonna be a very good discussion, because it's about a subject that I am very personally involved with, which is of course back pain. me talk about my back issues on several of our episodes and we're just going to keep the ball rolling now so let's let's give them some some stats. Over 77 million people in United States experience back pain each year. For some the pain is present day and night for others. Well it shows up the moment the suitcase comes out of the closet or whenever the relatives come to stay stress. In other words, all in back trouble will cost the United States about 100 billion with a B dollars a year more than the cost of treating cancer, heart disease and aids combined. This prevalent woe exists in political, psychological, social and economic context that greatly influences how patients will be treated and if they'll ever recover. Today, we have with us journalist and author, Catherine Jacobson Raman, whose New York Times bestseller carved in sand. When attention fails and memory fades and midlife was published in 2007 spent years and a small fortune in her effort to resolve her own low back pain somebody similar to me. When nothing works, she decided to take an investigative look at the reality of the spine medicine arena. Expensive, ineffective, sometimes illegal, and often harmful. She found that the back pain industry exemplified the worst aspects of the US healthcare system. Today we welcome Catherine to our show, and to talk about her new groundbreaking book, crooked, Outwitting the back pain industry and getting on the road to recovery. Catherine, welcome to the show.

Cathryn Jakobson Ramin 04:19

Thank you so much. I'm delighted to be here with you today.

Adam 04:23

When I found out about your book, I had to get it immediately. I heard through the grapevine that you talked about some of the MedX machines that we use here and I needed to know what you felt about that. Little did I know I didn't realize you got this this book was thick. How many pages is it about?

Cathryn Jakobson Ramin 04:41

I think it's 340 pages or so.

Adam 04:43

And it's broken up into two parts. The first part basically, is discussing all the issues with our healthcare industry and all the problems and misleading information in all how and how all the scientific evidence points at all these modalities that our doctors are trying to push on. US aren't working, and why. And then she goes into the second part of her book where she talks about, well guess what there is hope there are things you can do. So, without further ado, let's talk about the first half. And let's talk about this dismal situation that the healthcare industry is in, why are there so many ways to treat back pain, yet, so few of them are effective?

Cathryn Jakobson Ramin 05:24

Well, back pain has largely been medicalized over the past 60 or 70 years. Up until the 1930s, nobody was having spine surgery unless you had been hit by a bus or had some other major kind of traumatic accident, because the chances of recovery or actually being able to walk again, were extremely poor. But in the 1940s, a couple of surgeons at Massachusetts General Hospital, discovered almost by accident that you could remove the intervertebral disc from the spine, and the person would survive. And in certain cases, the person's leg pain might relent. So having discovered that, that this, this disc could be removed safely enough, they said about doing a lot of that, what they realized was that they didn't fuse the tw...