292: Father Richard Rohr on The Universal Christ


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Father Richard Rohr is a globally recognized ecumenical teacher bearing witness to the universal awakening within Christian mysticism and the Perennial Tradition. He’s a Franciscan priest in the New Mexico Provence and the founder of the Center for Action and Contemplation in Albuquerque. In this episode, Eric and Father Richard discuss his most recent book, The Universal Christ: How a Forgotten Reality Can Change Everything We See, Hope For, and Believe.

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In This Interview, Father Richard Rohr and I Discuss…

  • His book, The Universal Christ: How a Forgotten Reality Can Change Everything We See, Hope For, and Believe
  • What the word “Christ” means for him
  • How God loves things by becoming them, by uniting with them
  • That a mature Christian sees Christ in everything and everyone else
  • The notion of God IN all things vs God IS all things
  • How Christ is a stand-in for everything
  • Focusing on the death of Christ and missing the life of Christ
  • When God hides his face
  • The difference between spiritual darkness and depression
  • A loss of the feeling of faith in God isn’t the same thing as a loss of faith in God
  • How distraction doesn’t make you happy
  • God uses 3 things to draw us out of ourselves: goodness, truth and beauty
  • Life doesn’t have to be perfect to be wonderful
  • How God uses evil for your transformation
  • That Jesus punishes nobody
  • When you return in kind – like Michael and the dragon – you become the dragon
  • The 2 virtues you need to move forward on the spiritual path: humility and honesty

Father Richard Rohr Links:

Center for Action and Contemplation



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If you liked this episode with Father Richard Rohr, you might also enjoy listening to these earlier interviews:

Richard Rohr – Part 1 (2017)

Richard Rohr – Part 2 (2017)

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