This Is Us: Valerie Jarrett, Mayor Michael Tubbs, and the Long Road to Progress


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The pod is in New York City for the second annual Smart On Crime Innovations Conference—an annual convening to change the criminal justice system to be fairer and more just, comprehensive, and effective. Ed and Daniella were lucky to be joined by Valerie Jarrett, formerly the senior adviser to President Barack Obama, and Michael Tubbs, the 28-year-old mayor of Stockton, California. Mayor Tubbs offers his personal philosophy for how leadership at the local level can move the needle on criminal justice reform, and Jarrett provides her take on the ongoing sexual assault allegations against Judge Brett Kavanaugh and what they portend for the future of the Supreme Court and the country. Finally, we all find common ground in a certain hit television series. And attention: spoiler alerts within, but don't worry—they're from last season.

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