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In this and the next episode I respond to a critique of my views by apologist, author, and pastor Dr. Michael Burgos in an episode of his podcast. We discuss Old Testament monotheism, Paul’s monotheism, and the New Testament use of “Lord” (Greek: kurios) for both Jesus and for God. This conversation began as a conversation between him and me on Twitter.
I agree with Dr. Burgos on several points that he makes about the famous Shema (Deuteronomy 6:4) and about Paul’s discussion of food offered to idols in 1 Corinthians 8.
But there is plenty to disagree about as well. I argue that New Testament monotheism is not only the claim that there’s only one god, but also includes the claim that this one God just is the Father. I also argue that Dr. Burgos’s claim that “Lord” is “a title of deity” is either trivially true or obviously false – either way, of no help in interpreting Paul’s remarks in 1 Corinthians 8:4-6. Like other biblical unitarian Christians, I claim that the key to understanding the innovative New Testament usage of “Lord” is the much cited Psalm 110:1, which in Greek translation features two who are referred to as “Lord” (or more precisely, “the Lord,” i.e. God, vs. “my Lord,” i.e. the human who is here being exalted by God).
I also discuss his newfangled reading of 1 Corinthians 8 which imagines that Paul is there “reformulating the Shema,” and why unitarian Christians think that the Father is the one creator of the heaves and the earth.
Links for this episode:
- One God and One Lord: A Response to Dale Tuggy & a Consideration of 1 Corinthians 8:6
- Our God is Triune: Essays in Biblical Theology
- Counterfeit Religion: A Biblical Analysis of Select Cults, Sects, and False Religious Movements
- Against Oneness Pentecostalism: An Exegetical-Theological Critique
- Deuteronomy 6:4; 1 Corinthians 8:4-6 (different translations of 1 Corinthians 8:6); Isaiah 43:10; Genesis 1:26; Revelation 4; Revelation 5; Philippians 2:9-11; Mark 12:28-34; Psalm 110:1; Mark 10:6; Mark 13:19; Romans 1:20; Acts 4:24; Acts 14:15; Acts 17:24-31; Hebrews 11:3; Ephesians 3:9; 1 Timothy 4:3-4; Revelation 4:11; Revelation 10:6; Revelation 14:7.
- podcast 248 – How Trinity theories conflict with the Bible
- How Trinity theories conflict with the New Testament
- Dunn on Jesus as kyrios (“Lord”) in the New Testament
- divine simplicity
- podcast 164 – On Counting Gods (paper)
- one-self Trinity theories
- three-self Trinity theories
- Does the Old Testament Teach the Trinity? Jonathan McLatchie vs. Carlos Xavier
- podcast 131 – 10 Apologists’ Mistakes about the Trinity – Part 1
- podcast 132 – 10 Apologists’ Mistakes about the Trinity – Part 2
- podcast 227 – Who Should Christians Worship?
- The Orthodox Formulas 2: The Council of Constantinople (381)
- The Tuggy-Brown debate: Dale’s opening statement
- podcast 15 – Are Paul’s “one God” and “one Lord” one and the same?
- podcast 16 – How is Jesus “the one Lord”?
- podcast 224 – Biblical Words for God and for his Son Part 1 – God and “God” in the Bible
- podcast 225 – Biblical Words for God and for his Son Part 2 – Old “Lord” vs. New “Lord”
- podcast 253 – The Apostle Paul a Unitarian
- Splitting the Shema: A ‘How Not To’ guide
- fulfillment fallacy posts: the Bible teaches that David is God, the Bible on another previous life of Jesus
- podcast 258 – Who is the one Creator? – Part 1
- podcast 259 – Who is the one Creator? – Part 2
- Reading comprehension quiz: Johann 17:1-3
- the apologetics blind-spot on numerical identity
- podcast 124 – a challenge to “Jesus is God” apologists
- This week’s thinking music is “Chill Out Theme” by Komiku.