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Ep018: Catrice M. Jackson On Doing Anti-Racism Work With Becky
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In this episode, I speak with international speaker, anti-racism educator, and best-selling author, Catrice M. Jackson
Catrice is the global visionary leader of the Awakened Conscious Shift, the CEO of Catriceology Enterprises, an international speaker, and a best-selling author. Catrice is a straight up, on the rocks with no chaser voice for racial justice who is unapologetic and unflinching with her anti-racism message. She is the catalytic creator of SHETalks WETalk Race Talks for Women and WETalks for Women of Color. I became friends with Catrice at the beginning of this year, and was thrilled when I got to preview a copy of her incredible book - The Becky Code. As you'll hear in this episode however, it was sharing excerpts from this book that ultimately ended up with me being censored on Instagram and Facebook.
Catrice is strong medicine and serves up hard truths necessary to eliminate the lethal infection of racism from humanity. She realizes that her approach may be rebuked and her flavor undesired. Catrice knows she is not for everyone and that everyone won’t like her, and she is unbothered by both. She is unmoved by naysayers and does her work authentically and unapologetically with a revolutionary spirit and believes that justice is love.
Catrice and I recorded this episode a few months ago, before I travelled to the US, before I had decided on the title of my book ('From Anger, With Love: A Black Feminist Talks To Spiritual White Women About White Supremacy'), and while I was still on my Instagram hiatus. I am now back on Instagram, am currently working with my literary agents to prepare a book proposal, and have incorporated a lot of the lessons that I learnt from Catrice in this episode into both my personal and professional life.
Get ready some for some straight up real talk, with a woman who does not mince her words.
CW/Trigger Warning: At the end of the episode, there is a brief mention of child molestation, so please practice self-care and boundaries for yourself.
in this episode, Catrice & i explore:
The significance and importance of knowing our core values
Digging into our ancestral journey, releasing the name of the colonizer
Catrice's spiritual journey and how it plays an important supportive role in her work
Her journey from a racal justice director to international speaker on anti-racism
How Catrice uses "compassionate detachment" in her workshops on anti-racism
Excerpts from The Becky Code such as Weapons of Whiteness and Weapons for Winning as a WOC
The parallel of narcissism and whiteness
Loving and supporting fellow black and brown sisters as we get free of Beckery
I hope you enjoy this conversation as much as we did. Click the play button below to listen in now.
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About Catrice M. Jackson
Catrice is the global visionary leader of the Awakened Conscious Shift, the CEO of Catriceology Enterprises, an international speaker, and a best-selling author. Catrice is a straight up, on the rocks with no chaser voice for racial justice who is unapologetic and unflinching with her anti-racism message. She is the catalytic creator of SHETalks WETalk Race Talks for Women and WETalks for Women of Color.
Connect with Catrice at:
- Website - SheTalksWeTalk.com
- Facebook - facebook/shetalkswetalk
- Instagram - instagram/catricology
- Twitter - twitter/catricology
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