#138 Reverse Vending Machines, Regulation & Demand, Demonstrating Traction, & More w/ Paweł Ciesielski (MaasLoop)

CleanTechies Podcast

🌎 Today we are joined by Pawel Ciesielski, the Co-Founder and CEO of MaaS Loop, a Poland-based company building reverse vending machines to help collect various recyclables.
He has a background in marketing, branding, and trend projection where he specifically helped demonstrate what the world could look like in 10 or 20 years from a climate perspective.
Due to the high cost of talent and the EU's regulations around bottle deposit costs, smaller businesses require a solution to help them cost-effectively collect customer deposits.
Listen to the episode to learn more about their tech, journey, and Pawel's advice to others.
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Topics:
**3:20 Intro to Paweł & MaaS Loop
**4:20 What part of the waste supply chain they are working in
**5:30 What reverse vending machines do
**7:15 Founding MaaS Loop
**10:00 How they differentiate from the rest of the circular economy
**13:40 Explaining the cost savings
**18:40 How the technology works
**19:35 Creating their MVP
**23:50 Defining traction
**26:45 How they determined PMF
**30:00 Advice on raising $$$
**32:35 Overcoming the production scaling-up challenge

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Links:
**Connect with Pawel: https://www.linkedin.com/in/pawel-ciesielski
**MaaS Loop Website: https://www.maasloop.com/
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Chapters

1. Intro to Paweł & MaaS Loop (00:03:20)

2. What part of the waste supply chain they are working in 4:20 What part of the waste supply chain they are working in (00:04:20)

3. What reverse vending machines do (00:05:30)

4. Founding MaaS Loop (00:07:15)

5. How they differentiate from the rest of the circular economy (00:10:00)

6. Explaining the cost savings (00:13:40)

7. How the technology works (00:18:40)

8. Creating their MVP (00:19:35)

9. Defining traction (00:23:50)

10. How they determined PMF (00:26:45)

11. Advice on raising $$$ (00:30:00)

12. Overcoming the production scaling up challenge (00:32:35)