Episode 31 - Hearty White

15 Minutes: a podcast about fame, with Jamie Berger

Episode 31 - Hearty White (see also episode 8!)Here’s the first ***two*** new episodes with WFMU radio talker Hearty White (one longish conversation split in two) coming up this week and next. If you haven't listened to our first conversation back in Episode 8, DO! It might not be for you, but it is, it will be VERY much for you - I wish I could be right there with you to see how excited you'll be to meet him!Every week, (Thursdays at 7pm on WFMU or on the internet any time like the rest of us), listening to Hearty's show, Miracle Nutrition, I learn so much about artmaking and radio and comedy and improvisation and ego and kindness and all kinds of wonderful pop-culture and scientific and philosophical arcana from this man every time I listen to him.Back in episode 8, Hearty’s willingness to explain the magic of his show and the fine line and decisions involved in being "Hearty" as opposed to his non-radio human are endlessly fascinating, to me anyway, and I'm sure will be to many of you as well! Just a a couple things Hearty and I shot the shit about in this episode:CharoFoleyDora Hall, Solo Cup Heiress http://historysdumpster.blogspot.com/2012/08/dora-hall.htmlJane FondaBorges and IOn having/wanting an audience - “close friends don’t listen regularly” because they get to see you in real lifeVictor Borge (of course)AgeismThe Green ChildXavier CugatMy Dinner with AndreThe Sorites (“Heap”) ParadoxJohn Berger (Way’s of Seeing and Why we Look at Animals)https://www.brainpickings.org/2014/04/01/why-look-at-animals-john-berger-about-looking/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pDE4VX_9Kk (Ways of Seeing)Meadowlark Lemon and the Harlem Globetrotters, how distant a cartoon version oneself can be from oneselfScatman CaruthersCartoon Michael Jackson’s pink snakeSelling one’s old embarrassing work - “If you keep saying no they just keep throwing [more] money at you.”Ricky Gervais, “Extras” . . . and the original “Office”ConfidenceImprovisation - “I’ll just let you hear me writing it.”Houdini and “pulling stuff out of your ass” re imrprovisation, “overriding self-doubt and self consciousness and letting it flow.” Point being, improvised work doesn’t come out of thin air, you’ve got it up in you there to pull out.Monologue vs. Conversation“I would write everything but I never get around to it, so I’ll just let you hear me writing it.”On the value of being “semi-interesting” and discursive as opposed to polished and tight on the radio.On making “Adult Swim” shorts and doing take after take and losing spontaneity, losing what makes Hearty White work work.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5DjPQtuvi8 (adult swim clip)PsychicsDeceptionRicky JayWhich lead to Cameron EpisodeTed Turner***Ed Patenaude is our engineer, tootin' the horn and keeping the 15minutes Train rollin'!Find us at http://15minutesjamieberger or here on soundcloud or in itunes or on facebook or on twitter/instagram (@15minsjamieb) or ***Patreon*** (help us help you!https://www.patreon.com/15minutesjamiebergeror just about anywhere pods are cast - thanks!

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