Everything people and workforce—recruiting, marketing, technology, talent management, and workforce economics—delivered with biting sarcasm and unapologetic snark. Industry misfits Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman bring their no-holds-barred opinions to dissect news, trends, and the occasional dumpster fire. If you’re a hiring company, staffing firm, or vendor looking for insights (and a thick skin), these two won’t just tell you what’s happening—they’ll tell you why you’re probably doing it wr ...
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Listen to the HRchat Podcast by HR Gazette to get insights and tips from HR leaders, influencers and tech experts. Topics covered include HR Tech, HR, AI, Leadership, Talent, Recruitment, Employee Engagement, Recognition, Wellness, DEI, and Company Culture. Hosted by Bill Banham, Bob Goodwin, Pauline James, and other HR enthusiasts, the HRchat show publishes interviews with influencers, leaders, analysts, and those in the HR trenches 2-4 times each week. The show is approaching 1000 episodes ...
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Episode 800 with Bill Banham and Chad Sowash
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27:11The landmark 800th episode of the HRchat Show welcomes Chad Sowash, the dynamic co-host of "HR's Most Dangerous Podcast" – the Chad and Cheese Show. Chad has worked in the HR, Talent Acquisition, and HR Tech space for over 20 years consulting hundreds of Fortune 500 companies like AT&T, Lockheed Martin, and The Ford Motor Company. Chad is a former …
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On this episode of The Chad and Cheese Podcast, our hosts sling wit and wisdom faster than paintballs at a corporate team-building fiasco, dreaming up a tournament that’d make HR - and Cheesman - cry. Topics are spicy with the soap opera at Deel, where legal drama’s juicier than a reality TV reunion. Plus, they geek out over Indeed’s search boxes m…
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Build vs. Maintain: Transforming HR Strategy for Uncertain Times with Mary Faulkner
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23:33What does it take to transform HR while navigating uncertainty? Mary Faulkner, Principal at IA, returns to the HR Chat Show to share powerful insights on sustainable transformation, strategic HR, and creating adaptable organizations. Mary's journey from aspiring stunt car driver to HR transformation expert began with a passion for statistics and co…
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Back To the Future with Monster.com Founder Jeff Taylor
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53:14In this episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast, Jeff Taylor, the nutty professor behind Monster.com, crashes the mic to dish on job boards, entrepreneurial chaos, and why the hiring game’s more bonkers than a squirrel on espresso. He takes us on a nostalgia trip through Monster’s heyday, chuckling at how Indeed swooped in like a job-posting ninja and…
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This week on HR’s most dangerous podcast, things get wild with updates from the espionage-soaked saga between Rippling and Deel — Rippling needs more cash and Deel loses top talent. But wait, there's more: China and Dave Chappelle’s next-level tariff trolling North Korean IT infiltrations at Fortune 500 companies? That’s right — the hackers are alr…
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Disrupt North East and Human Connection with Alexander Bell
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16:36What happens when a 7-year-old's innocent question about smartphones forces us to confront our own digital habits? Technology expert Alexander Bell joins Bill Banham on the HRchat Show to share the powerful moment that transformed his relationship with technology and launched his mission to help others reclaim control over their digital lives. Alex…
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Shredded: Workday, Shopify, Dosen.io, Deel, Rippling, Artisan, Linkedin & More
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Hiring Science: Why It's Broken and How to Fix It with Dr Deborah Kerr
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52:39In this eye-opening conversation, assessment expert Dr. Deborah Kerr dives into why the science of hiring remains "broken" despite decades of research and how validated assessment tools can transform results. Dr. Kerr reveals startling statistics: managers get hiring decisions wrong approximately 80% of the time, according to Gallup research, with …
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EUROPE: Salesforce Slowly Eating Adecco’s Lunch
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47:08The Chad and Cheese Podcast Does Europe mixes humor with sharp analysis on Europe’s evolving landscape. The episode kicks off with light banter before diving into Tesla’s struggles in Europe, where sales have plummeted—down 41.1% in France and 55.3% in Sweden—due to Elon Musk’s anti-EU stance and Trump’s tariffs. These tariffs also threaten U.S. wi…
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Heart-Driven HR: When Mission Meets Talent Management with Amy Kruglak
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22:09What happens when HR strategy genuinely aligns with company mission? Amy Kruglak, the first VP of People at medical AI company Elucid, reveals the powerful impact of intentional employee experiences in this thought-provoking conversation. After taking a post-COVID break to recharge from the exhaustion many HR leaders experienced, Amy found herself …
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Hope you like it a little light and a little dark! This week's episode kicks off with some casual fashion talk before taking a sharp turn into the biggest April Fool’s joke that wasn’t—Val Kilmer’s passing. The hosts pay tribute to his legendary roles before diving into politics, where Cory Booker’s marathon filibuster gets mixed reactions: Mo is i…
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Shredded: LinkedIn, Craigslist, Ribbon, All Gravy, Ethos, Marit Health, Qneiform & More
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Return to Office is BS with Dr. Jessica Kriegel
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41:36In this riotous episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast, the boys drag Dr. Jessica Kriegel, Culture Partners’ Chief Strategy Officer, into the clown car of post-COVID work woes. They tackle the return-to-office (RTO) brouhaha like it’s a bad slapstick routine—is it a heroic charge back to the water cooler, or are we all just pratfalling into 2019 with…
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In the latest episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast, hosts Joel Cheesman and Chad Sowash dive into a mix of serious industry shifts and quirky tangents. They unpack Indeed’s traffic decline—down due to a 10% drop in job postings and competition from platforms like LinkedIn—while noting its erratic market moves and a pivot to online courses that’s mi…
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Shredded: LinkedIn, Jolly, Lumber, Grayscale, Greenhouse, PeopleIX, Google Career Dreamer & More
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When Life Happens: Building a Better System for Employee Time Off with Mahima Chawla
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22:17From laptop-toting C-sections to spreadsheet nightmares, employee leave management has long been one of HR's most complex and frustrating challenges. Mahima Chawla, CEO and co-founder of Cocoon, is changing all that with a revolutionary approach to leave administration. Mahima shares how a chance conversation sparked her journey into the leave mana…
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Personal Branding for Recruiters with Orlando Haynes
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13:03Live from RecFest USA, The Chad & Cheese Podcast welcomes Orlando Haynes, North American talent acquisition lead at Mosaic. Orlando breaks down why personal branding is a game-changer for recruiters, offering practical tips on leveraging LinkedIn and navigating job searches after layoffs. He also shares how a strong personal brand can transform emp…
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The Skills-Based Revolution Is Changing How We Engage Talent with Dr. Rochelle Haynes
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24:31Dr. Rochelle Haynes returns to the pod to discuss her OpenHR framework, a comprehensive approach to helping organizations thrive with today's blended workforces. As founder and CEO of Crowd Potential Consulting, Rochelle draws on her psychology background and PhD research to address how modern workplaces can effectively engage diverse talent pools …
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This week, Chad, Joel, and Emi sink their teeth into a juicy HR tech showdown: Rippling’s suing Deel, alleging an espionage plot. Rippling accused Deel of planting Irishman Keith O’Brien in its Dublin office, where he allegedly ran 6,000 Slack searches for trade secrets—busted by a fake “#d-defectors” Slack channel. Things escalated when O’Brien tr…
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Shredded: Deel, Rippling, ZipRecruiter, iCIMS, Factorial, LinkedIn, Optimhire, Klarna & More
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Upskilling Tomorrow's Tech Workforce with Tan Moorthy, Revature
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20:01In a world where technology unfolds rapidly, the dialogue on workforce sustainability shifts towards a central theme: upskilling. This HRchat episode features Tan Moorthy, the new CEO at Revature, where he shares powerful insights on the imperative for organizations to embrace continuous learning and adapt their workforce to the evolving demands of…
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EUROPE: Regulation, Randstad, and a Tech Rumble
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37:58In this episode of The Chad and Cheese Podcast Does Europe, hosts Chad Sowash, Joel Cheesman, and the suavely named Lieven Van Nieuwenhuyze plunge headfirst into Europe’s recruitment jungle with all the grace of a tipsy tourist. They kick things off with a chuckle-fest intro—because who doesn’t love a podcast that roasts itself?—before Chad regales…
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Event Preview: Human Centred Leadership Conference with Kul Mahay
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16:20Kul Mahay returns to the HRchat Show to preview the second annual Human-Centred Leadership Conference happening in Derby, UK in May. With 30+ years of experience in unlocking human potential, Kul explains why he believes this isn't your typical leadership conference. Forget the parade of speakers inducing what he calls a "hypnotic state." Instead, …
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The Power of Diversity with Paige Elliott
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13:03Live from the Shaker Green Room at RecFest USA, The Chad & Cheese Podcast welcomes Paige Elliott, Global Employer Brand Manager at Veeam Software. Paige shares why authentic diversity stories are critical to employer branding and how aligning internal culture with external messaging attracts talent. She offers practical tips on using video, written…
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Deel’s Cash Cannon vs. Remote’s Slingshot
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47:47In this week’s episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast, hosts Joel Cheesman, Chad Sowash, and career expert J.T. O'Donnell unpack a whirlwind of industry news with their signature wisdom and wit. Kicking things off, they celebrate all-things Chicken Cock whiskey, Keith Sonderling's confirmation at the DOL, cry a little over layoff stories on TikTok an…
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Why Your Company's Benefits Plan Might Be Outdated with Lindsey Gage-Cole, GroupHEALTH Benefit Solutions
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15:51In this episode of the HRchat Show, we delve into the urgent need for organizations to reevaluate their employee health benefit offerings. Lindsey Gage-Cole, Chief Transformation Officer at GroupHEALTH Benefit Solutions, discusses the significant disconnect between employee expectations and actual employer actions when it comes to wellness support.…
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Immigration Game: Trump 2.0 Insights and Impacts
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42:48The Chad & Cheese Podcast looks to tackle immigration now that Trump is back in the Oval Office, roping in Wharton's Dr. Zeke Hernandez and VanHack's Ilya Brodsky for a wild ride through the immigration circus at home and abroad. They kick things off with the U.S., where the immigration system’s stuck in a time warp—deportations are up, sure, but i…
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The Race Against Time: Speeding Up Hiring with Chris Harper, ZippedScript
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20:36Ready to dive into the transformative world of employment verification? Join us as we explore how Chris Harper, the CEO of ZippedScript, is changing the HR landscape one credential at a time. With his background as an entrepreneur, Harper outlines his journey to creating an innovative platform that simplifies education verification and accelerates …
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A New Era for Employer Branding with Ashten Fizer
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13:22Live from the Shaker Green Room at RecFest USA, Chad & Cheese chat with Ashten Fizer, a dynamic talent brand creator, who brings fresh insights on employer branding to the table. What’s Inside: ✅ The real deal on why authenticity beats overproduced videos in today's branding world. ✅ How effective branding needs cross-department collaboration and c…
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In this episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast, hosts Joel and Maureen trade barbs and insights like a comedy duo on a caffeine bender before diving into heavier stuff like mental health in a world gone wacky, in addition to the latest news around the world of work. In a rollercoaster of a month, U.S. companies slammed the brakes on hiring, with ADP’…
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Shredded: Workday, Employ, ADP, Google, HeyMilo, Alta, Darwinbox, Helios, HiBob & More
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Why Your HR Needs Video with Amy Casciotti, TechSmith
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20:35Discover the game-changing potential of video within human resources in this insightful episode. Join us as we speak with Amy Casciotti, Vice President of HR at TechSmith, who shares her valuable experiences on leveraging video to enhance HR efficiency, employee onboarding, and training. Amy emphasizes the critical role video plays in fostering eng…
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Behind the Mic: Unpacking the WRKdefined Journey with William Tincup and Ryan Leary
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19:54In this episode of the HRchat show, we talk about world of work-focused podcasting. Join us as we delve into the journey of WRKdefined, a new-ish podcast network founded by William Tincup and Ryan Leary. William and Ryan share how they aim to uplift independent podcasters and create a space where work-related conversations thrive in various formats…
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In this episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast, hosts Joel Cheesman and Chad Sowash team up with the marketing maestro, Gina Alioto from Shaker Recruitment Marketing, to dive into the wild world of experiential marketing. They chat about how this approach can turn brand experiences into something you'd remember even if you had the memory of a goldfis…
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AI Meets Coaching: The Future of Performance with Joel DiGirolamo
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18:26Are we ready for the AI revolution in coaching? This episode features an insightful dialogue with Joel DiGirolamo from the International Coaching Federation. We delve into how AI is reshaping the coaching landscape, enhancing communication and productivity while also raising ethical questions. Joel shares valuable insights on the rigorous standards…
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Buckle up, job nerds—Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman are back with J.T. O'Donnell, serving up the week’s employment chaos with a side of snark. Joann’s 800 fabric havens are kaput after 80 years—no buyer, 19,000 pink slips. DOGE is slashing like it’s Black Friday: 75,000 “voluntary” goodbyes, 1,000 at Veterans Affairs, 1,300 at Energy, 700 at the CDC…
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AI and The Future of Talent with Donald Knight
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15:54This week on The Chad & Cheese Podcast, we’re joined by Donald Knight, the People & Culture mastermind from Warner Bros. Discovery. We talk about: 💰 The 2022 job market sequel—spoiler: execs are playing musical chairs, and salaries are getting wild. 🤖 AI panic in HR—why some CHROs are still clutching their pearls while others are stealing all the t…
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In this episode, the boys chat with Hannah Peet, the co-founder of Candidly, an ATS so generic it's called "white-label." Hannah waxes poetic about her grand adventure in HR tech, explaining how Candidly plans to make hiring as simple as a kindergarten art project for SMBs. They dive into the thrilling world of partnerships and the start-ups focus …
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Netflix Expands, Klarna Fakes, and Boomers RTO
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55:12Ready for a ride through the latest workplace shake-ups? Well, welcome to another episode of Workplace Woes & Corporate Chaos with Chad & Cheese, joined this week by Emi Beredugo! We kick off with JPMorgan CEO Jamie Dimon, who’s getting caught saying the quiet part out loud. Leaked audio catches him roasting work-from-home setups - the squad weighs…
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Humor, Training, and Tackling Modern Workplace Challenges with Suzanne Lucas
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22:48Discover how Suzanne Lucas, aka the Evil HR Lady, merges humor and HR expertise in a lively conversation with Bill Banham that promises to change your perspective on workplace dynamics. We explore Suzanne's transition from a political science scholar to a renowned HR voice and how her latest venture, HR Learns, is democratizing HR training. Get rea…
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The Shifting Sands of DEI with Torin Ellis
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16:59Live from the Shaker Green Room at RecFest USA, Torin Ellis sits down with Chad & Cheese to tackle the evolving landscape of diversity and inclusion (D&I). As some organizations retreat under external pressures, Torin delivers a wake-up call—now is not the time to step back. He challenges leaders to honor their commitments, exposes the political fo…
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Building Inclusive Cultures in the Third Sector with Idris Arshad
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17:00Imagine reshaping the very essence of HR within the charity sector. That's exactly what today's guest, Idris Arshad, has been doing as a top HR influencer in the UK. Tune in as Idris shares his inspirational journey of challenging stereotypes and redefining the role of HR as an integral force in supporting charitable missions. Bill Banham uncovers …
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AI, bias, the metaverse, and... J.Cole? 🤯 This week, Chad & Cheese sit down with Stefan Youngblood, the founder of Black AI Think Tank and hireblack.com, to talk about the intersection of AI, job markets, and the Black community. From connecting 6,000+ people in the Black Metaverse to challenging AI's built-in biases (like turning "Black-owned chip…
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This week, J.T. joins the boys for a rollercoaster ride through the latest industry news, which seems to have more downs than a feather factory. First off, Workday decided to trim 1,750 jobs from its ranks, that's about 8% of its workforce, all in the name of cozying up to AI because, let's face it, who needs humans when you have algorithms? Over a…
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Reimagining Workplace Dynamics with Behavioral Science with Nigel Gracie
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27:58What happens when a professional actor turns the spotlight onto the HR assessment industry? Meet Nigel Gracie, Business Development Director for Europe and Africa at Harrison Assessments International, as he shares his fascinating career pivot and the groundbreaking work of Dr. Harrison. Tune in for a a fresh perspective on how behavioral assessmen…
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