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Episode 27: Tough questions about Private Schools with NAIS President, Donna Orem
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This week Collette and Lisa ask Donna Orem, what, exactly, the organization is doing to help schools truly invest in equity, historically accurate curriculum and teacher training. Orem says the National Association of Independent Schools exists to lead and support a very diverse membership of independent schools. We ask her about the tools, the pro…
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Episode 26: “Wokeness”at Your Child’s Private School w/Brian Platzer from The Atlantic
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A complete US history is better curriculum than one that leaves out Black history. Many elite private schools are struggling to fully embrace this in their school community. Some parents see a false dichotomy -- pitting academics against social justice. Some parents have a lot to learn. See the full show notes at https://eracedpodcast.com Intro mus…
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Episode 25: Black Parents, White Head of School, Every Day Lessons - with Parents of Alumni from Episode 24 & Dr. Laura Konigsberg
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The classroom is traditionally where the teaching and learning takes place. Today, whole school communities are wrestling with all there is to learn - not just from the books, or the classics, but each other, every day, on campus. See the full show notes at https://eracedpodcast.com Intro music by https://instagram.com/mikedupreemusic…
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Episode 24: Was Private School Worth it? Recent Alumni Look Back
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Both Jamie and Jay say they'd choose their high school again, although the experience had its challenges. Hear their insights about how navigating a school where you are one of a few can be hard, even distressing at times. Both students also say a lot of valuable life learning takes place outside of the classroom, too. Now sophomores in college, ou…
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Episode 23: Are Private Schools Truly Indefensible? With Author Caitlin Flanagan
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For students of color and their families, navigating the predominantly white spaces of a private school is typically a series of challenges. But it’s not because we are having issues, it's because America is having issues. The Atlantic writer, Caitlin Flanagan says the problem with private schools is the perpetuation of systemic elitism in our coun…
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Episode 22: The Real Real: Parents Share what really happens when your family is Black@ ?
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Right now, many independent schools are more eager than ever to bring in Black families, and often roll out the red carpet when you visit. You may even see and meet with lots of students and families of color. Intentions to embrace diversity may be real. But once your child enrolls and you are there, that doesn't always mean there are organized spa…
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Episode 21: Diversity, Equity & Inclusion- Is that one person's job? Featuring Rasheda Carroll and Chris Dennis
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Most independent schools have a Director of Diversity, Equity and Inclusion. Or the search is on, due to the current climate around racial reckoning. In this episode, we talk with Rasheda Carroll and Chris Dennis, two seasoned DEI experts now serving as assistant head of schools in Los Angeles. They understand what it takes to nurture students, plu…
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Episode 20: The Power of Affinity Groups “It’s Not Just a Club” featuring Rosetta Lee
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For students navigating predominantly white schools, being in the numeric minority is a fact of every day. Affinity groups provide unapologetic affirmations of identity. Collette & Lisa talk with Rosetta Lee about the four P's provided by affinity groups: pride, protection, preparation and practice, including helping students role play taking on qu…
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Episode 19: Racial Literacy 101: Building an Essential Skill with Charles Adams
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Our guest, educator and non-profit leader Charles Adams of the Lion's Story, is deep in the work, and he wants you to know that racial literacy is skills based -- it starts with making observations, understanding encounters, and intentionally practicing ways to resolve racially stressful situations Learn what it means to be racially literate, and h…
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Episode 18: The Fugitives and Abolitionists in Your School featuring Dr. Jamila Lyiscott
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Our guest in this episode, Nationally renowned scholar and speaker, Dr. Jamila Lyiscott, offers this challenge: Let’s start real conversations. Right now some school communities are talking about -- and examining -- the systemic racism baked in to our schools’ programs, curriculum and culture. The intentions are good, and some of that conversation …
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Episode 17: 60+ Years of “Black at” featuring Dr. Michelle Purdy
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On this episode- a look at the history of elite Private Schools. with our guest Dr. Michelle Purdy author of Transforming the Elite:Black Students and the Desegregation of Private Schools, Following the Supreme Court ruling on Brown v. Board of Education which mandated desegregation of public schools, enrollment in private schools skyrocketed… but …
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Episode 16: How to Avoid “Pacing for Privilege” Detours featuring Dr. Elizabeth Denevi
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Denevi unpacks the ways institutions often derail good intentions with "pacing for privilege" and other practices that may not be recognized as racist. She explains how acknowledging and addressing harms, attempting truth and reconciliation and even securing Black families' donor dollars often left on the table (by creating giving circles!) are all…
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Episode 15: Black Hair: The Crowning Moment featuring Felicia Leatherwood
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In this episode, we talk to celebrity hair stylist, Felicia Leatherwood about black hair and the history of why you can’t touch it. Connect with Felicia Leatherwood: http://www.felicialeatherwood.com/ See the full show notes at https://eracedpodcast.com Intro music by https://instagram.com/mikedupreemusic…
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Episode 14: Black Girl/White School: A conversation with Olivia V.G. Clarke
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In this episode, we talk about the experiences of black girls in all white education spaces with Olivia V.G. Clarke and Theresa Clarke. Olivia is the author of Black Girl, White School: Thriving, Surviving and No, You Can’t Touch My Hair. Connect with Olivia: https://oliviavgclarke.com See the full show notes at https://eracedpodcast.com Intro musi…
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What is implicit bias? Who has it? Can it help to end discrimination? We talk with Steven Cleveland, activist, filmmaker and educator about implicit bias and how it plays out in education and society as a whole. See the full show notes at https://eracedpodcast.com Intro music by https://instagram.com/mikedupreemusic…
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Episode 12: Is it Worth it: The True Cost of Sending Our Kids of Color to Independent Schools
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In this episode, we talk about the true cost of sending our kids of color to independent schools and if it is really worth it. We also have two guests joining us today, Reveta Bowers and Luthern Williams. See the full show notes at https://eracedpodcast.com Intro music by https://instagram.com/mikedupreemusic…
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Episode 11: Get on Board: The Importance of Independent School Boards
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In this episode, we talk about the importance of diverse leadership especially amongst independent school boards, the path to joining a school board, what the responsibilities look like, and some of the challenges that come along with that. We also have two guests joining us today, John Shallman and Guy Primus. See the full show notes at https://er…
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In this episode, we talk about the Vice Presidential debates, do a quick check in and take a look back at the guests we have had on our show so far! See the full show notes at https://eracedpodcast.com Intro music by https://instagram.com/mikedupreemusicBy Collette Bowers Zinn & Lisa Johnson
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Episode 9: Allyship featuring Shelly Tochluk and Ansley Newsom Kreitler
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In this episode, we talk about Allyship with Shelly Tochluk and Ansley Newsom Kreitler. We discuss how to be a better ally and show up, the growing pains of understanding and accepting systemic racism, the difference between being an empath and an ally, and so much more. See the full show notes at https://eracedpodcast.com Resources from this episo…
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Episode 8: Intersectionality of Racism and Sexism featuring Steven Cleveland
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In this episode, we talk about intersectionality, when it comes to racism and sexism, along with analyzing how the “B” word and “N” word are perceived differently. We also discuss the problems that face the case of Breonna Taylor and how black women can be more supported. Donate to Steven’s project here: http://www.akinginparadise.com Intro music b…
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In this episode, we talk about cultural appropriation, intent vs impact and have a guest joining us, Steven Cleveland, an activist, filmmaker and Professor of Black Studies at Cal State East Bay. Intro music by https://instagram.com/mikedupreemusic See the full show notes at https://eracedpodcast.com…
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Episode 6: Axis - Big Announcement to Help You Find the Right School
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In this episode, we talk about Collette’s new non profit organization that will be helping students of color and their families with admissions into private schools. We also cover admissions generally, since they are coming up and how important it is to vet a school, whether that be in person or virtually! Learn more about Private School Axis here:…
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Episode 5: Show Up - Why Parent Engagement is Critical
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In this episode, we talk about what it means for parents to show up and we have two parents also joining us. Nikea Johnson and Yetunde Daniels Rubinstein who each have their own parenting experiences and perspectives on why it is so important for parents to be involved in their children’s school life. We discuss: - Parent Engagement In School Is Ne…
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Episode 4: Diversity and Inclusion Isn’t Rocket Science
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In this episode, we talk about our experiences in our respective roles, our thoughts on the roles of DEI in schools and how that is changing in the current climate. We discuss: - DEI work: Is It rocket science? - Hindrances to the progress of DEI work. - Lack of communication and leadership within school about diversity, equity and inclusion. - Cul…
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Black (Student) Lives Matter and in this episode, we’re talking to Janine Hancock Jones, Director of Diversity, Equity & Inclusion at Harvard-Westlake. We discuss… - How to support diversity, equity, and inclusion for students in school. - Difficulties between the ties of racism and politics. - Her anti-racism plans for Harvard WestLake …and more! …
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Welcome to eRaced! Meet your hosts Collette Bowers Zinn & Lisa Johnson as they share everything you need to know about this podcast and WHY they decided to start it. Learn more at https://eracedpodcast.com Intro music by https://www.instagram.com/mikedupreemusic/By Collette Bowers Zinn & Lisa Johnson
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As people of color, we will no longer be eRaced! It's hard to stay encouraged, sane, and productive when on countless occasions, despite your education, socio-economic status, accomplishments and more, you are made to feel invisible, diminished because of skin color or simply put, eRaced. Join our hosts, Collette Bowers Zinn and Lisa Johnson, two B…
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