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Small Town Big Crime

Rachel Ryan, Jaclyn Piermarini, Courteney Stuart

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A beloved couple brutally murdered in their home. Their daughter's boyfriend, Jens Soering, confessed to the crime and was sentenced to life in prison. But decades later, DNA evidence tells a different story. So who really killed Derek and Nancy Haysom and why?
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Mind Over Murder

William F. Thomas and Kristin M. Dilley

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Listen to Mind Over Murder, the true crime podcast from victim's advocates Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley. Kristin is a researcher, writer and teacher from Virginia. Bill is an entertainment executive who is also the brother of a murder victim, now living in Connecticut. His sister Cathy Thomas along with her girlfriend Rebecca Dowski, were the first two victims in the still unsolved Colonial Parkway Murders ,which claimed the lives of 8 young people near Williamsburg from 1986 to 1989. They ...
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"Mind Over Murder" hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley discuss unsolved cases in Virginia with reporter and radio host Courteney Stuart of WINA Charlottesville. Cases include the Colonial Parkway Murders, the Route 29 Stalker, and the Shenandoah National Park Murders of Julie Williams and Lollie Winans, followed by the the bizarre death of Darrell…
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Dr. Mike Aamodt, the founder of the Serial Killer Database joins "Mind Over Murder" co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley to discuss how the database came into existence, how it helps academics, students and law enforcement investigators understand the lives and minds of serial killer, including Colonial Parkway Murders serial killer Alan Wade Wi…
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"Mind Over Murder" hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley discuss the new article by Dublin based writer Mark O'Connell, "John Hinckley Jr and the Madness of American Political Violence," which ran in the New York Times Magazine on July 25, 2024. This new episode is Part 2 of 2. NYT: John Hinckley Jr and the Madness of American Political Violence htt…
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In this bonus episode from 2022, Author Mark Olshaker joins Mind Over Murder co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley to discuss the recent release of John Hinckley, Jr. the man who attempted to assassinate former President Ronald Reagan in 1981. Hinckley will be living in Williamsburg, Virginia after his release from from supervision following a le…
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"Mind Over Murder" hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley discuss the new article by Dublin based writer Mark O'Connell, "John Hinckley Jr and the Madness of American Political Violence," which ran in the New York Times Magazine on July 25, 2024. This new episode is Part 1 of 2. NYT: John Hinckley Jr and the Madness of American Political Violence htt…
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Nationally known polygraph examiner and private detective Lisa Ribacoff joins "Mind Over Murder" co-host Bill Thomas to discuss how the FBI used a polygraph exam to ID then suspect Alan Wade Wilmer Sr as one of the responsible parties for the 1988 disappearance of Keith Call and Cassandra Hailey in the Colonial Parkway Murders. Despite much corrobo…
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"Mind Over Murder" hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley discuss Kristin's new research into how the CODIS System helps solve crime. How does CODIS work? Why do we have different CODIS policies in 50 different states? Can we make this system a better tool for solving crime? FBI Frequently Asked Questions on CODIS and NDIS https://www.fbi.gov/how-we-…
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Renee Williams, Executive Director of the National Center for Victims of Crime joins us to go over "8 Simple Rules for Being an Ethical True Crime Consumer." Mind Over Murder cohosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley join Renee for a fantastic conversation about how true crime media is changing-- for the better. This bonus episode of "mind Over Murder…
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Producer and podcast host Jennifer Amell and survivor and case advocate Jane Boroski join "Mind Over Murder" co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley to talk about "Dark Valley," their new podcast which covers the unsolved Connecticut River Valley Killings. Dark Valley explores a fascinating true crime case which warrants further investigation and d…
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Bestselling author Ron Peterson Jr joins "Mind Over Murder" podcast hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley to talk about his brand new book "In the Wind: The Disappearance of Janice Starr" which tells the story of groundbreaking female detective Kay Shucker, who helped solve the case of an Old Dominion University student who went missing in 1981. It …
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Ashley Spence, the head of the DNA Justice Project and a survivor of sexual assault herself, joins "Mind Over Murder" co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley to discuss her personal story of survival, how the CODIS system works to help solve cases including sexual assault and murder, and how the DNA Justice Project is working with legislators aroun…
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"Mind Over Murder" hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley discuss the bizarre death of Darrell David Rice, a longtime suspect in the Shenandoah National Park murders of Julie Williams and Lollie Winans. Rice was exonerated after the FBI and National Park Service announced that Walter "Leo" Jackson had been linked to the Williams/Winans murder via DNA…
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Steve French, the host of the "Unsolved Mysteries" podcast joins "Mind Over Murder" hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley to discuss the popular podcast version of the legendary TV show, his career in voiceover, how the mix of supernatural and true crime topics works, and how much he has learned about working in the true crime space over the last fe…
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Join "Mind Over Murder hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley as they discuss the recent FBI/Virginia State Police Press Conferences announcing suspects ID's in the Colonial Parkway Murders (suspect Alan Wade Wilmer, Sr.) and Shenadoah Murders of Julie Williams and Lollie Winans (suspect Walter "Leo" Jackson Sr.) Are these press conferences with law …
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Veteran reporter and television news anchor Carol Costello joins "Mind Over Murder" co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley to discuss her new true crime podcast, "Carol Costello Presents Blind Rage," which tells the shocking story of Phyllis Cottle, who was attacked in March 1984. Carol Costello covered the story as a rookie TV reporter. She also …
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Join "Mind Over Murder hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley as they discuss the recent article in the Virginian Pilot and Daily Press, "FBI Suspects Northern Neck Man in Second Colonial Parkway Murders Case, Families Told." Why are the FBI and Virginia State Police telling Colonial Parkway Murders families on thing behind closed doors, and refusing…
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Kathryn "Kate" Miles, bestselling author of "Trailed: One Woman's Quest to Solve the Shenadoah Murders" joins "Mind Over Murder" podcast hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley to discuss the recent FBI announcement that the 1996 murder of Julie Williams and Lollie Winans has been solved. With the news that deceased suspect Walter "Leo" Jackson, Sr. h…
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Kathryn "Kate" Miles, bestselling author of "Trailed: One Woman's Quest to Solve the Shenadoah Murders" joins "Mind Over Murder" podcast hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley to discuss the recent FBI announcement that the 1996 murder of Julie Williams and Lollie Winans has been solved. With the news that deceased suspect Walter "Leo" Jackson, Sr. h…
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Kathryn "Kate" Miles, author of the award winning true crime book "Trailed: One Woman's Quest to Solve the Shenandoah Murders," talks of the impact of the book on the 1996 murder case of Julie Williams and Lollie Winans, as well as on her own life as an author and outdoorswoman. Published in hardcover and audiobook in 2022, the paperback of "Traile…
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Join "Mind Over Murder" co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley and our MC, Sheryl "Mac" McCollum, with our live panel discussion at CrimeCon 2024 in Nashville, held May 30, 2024. This live recording is courtesy of the team at CrimeCon. Won't you help the Mind Over Murder podcast increase our visibility and shine the spotlight on the "Colonial Park…
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Join "Mind Over Murder" co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley as we report on our 3 day trip to CrimeCon 2024 in Nashville, held May 30-June 1, 2024. This is part 2 of 2 parts, and discusses legendary FBI profiler John Douglas, John Walsh of "America's Most Wanted," the Gabby Petito Foundation, author Nikki Egan and the true story behind "Victim …
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Join "Mind Over Murder" co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley as we report on our 3 day trip to CrimeCon 2024 in Nashville, held May 30-June 1, 2024. This is part 1 of 2 parts. Won't you help the Mind Over Murder podcast increase our visibility and shine the spotlight on the "Colonial Parkway Murders" and other unsolved cases? Contribute any amou…
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With a confirmed serial killer, Alan Wade Wilmer, Sr. being named in the Colonial Parkway Murders in Virginia, "Mind Over Murder" co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley discuss the how Alan Wade Wilmer Sr. would be profiled with former FBI Profilers James Fitzgerald and Dr. Raymond Carr. Part 2 of 2 parts with Fitz and Ray. This bonus episode orig…
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With a confirmed serial killer, Alan Wade Wilmer, Sr. being named in the Colonial Parkway Murders in Virginia, "Mind Over Murder" co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley discuss the how Alan Wade Wilmer Sr. would be profiled with former FBI Profilers James Fitzgerald and Dr. Raymond Carr. Part 1 of 2 parts with Fitz and Ray. This bonus episode orig…
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Andrea Lankford, former National Park Service Ranger joins "Mind Over Murder" hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley to discuss her new book "Trail of the Lost: The Relentless Search to Bring Home the Missing Hikers of the Paficic Crest Trail." This bonus episode of "Mind Over Murder" originally ran on January 25, 2024. "Trail of the Lost" was announ…
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Reknowned investigator Lindsey Wade, author of the new book "In My DNA: My Career Investigating Your Worst Nightmares" (nominated for a CrimeCon CLUE Award) joins "Mind Over Murder" hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley to discuss the CODIS Gap. Why are so many offenders, including rapists, murderers and even serial killers not found in the CODIS DN…
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Renee Williams, Executive Director of the National Center for Victims of Crime joins us to go over "8 Simple Rules for Being an Ethical True Crime Consumer." "Mind Over Murder" cohosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley join Renee for a fantastic conversation about how true crime media is changing-- for the better. This bonus episode of "Mind Over Murd…
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"Mind Over Murder" presented a live podcast recording session on developments in the Colonial Parkway Murders in Yorktown, Virginia on May 13, 2024. The session featured special guest Blaine Pardoe, co-author of "A Special Kind of Evil: The Colonial Parkway Serial Killings." This marked our second podcast recorded before a live audience. This is pa…
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Check out the "DNA: ID" podcast with host Jessica Bettencourt as she talks with "Mind Over Murder" co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley about her show, which covers true crime casesthat have been solved using Forensic Investigative Genetic Genealogy. This bonus episode of "Mind Over Murder" originally ran on November 20, 2023. We will aslo see J…
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"Mind Over Murder" presented a live podcast recording session on developments in the Colonial Parkway Murders in Yorktown, Virginia on May 13, 2024. The session featured special guest Blaine Pardoe, co-author of "A Special Kind of Evil: The Colonial Parkway Serial Killings." This marked our second podcast recorded before a live audience. This is pa…
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Kim Cross, New York Times bestselling author of "In Light of All Darkness: Inside the Polly Klaas Kidnapping and the Search for America's Child," joins "Mind Over Murder" podcast hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley is discuss her powerful new book. In very parent's worst nightmare, 12 year old Polly Klass was kidnapped at knifepoint while at a slu…
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Retired NYPD Homicide Detective Sargent Joe Giacalone joins "Mind Over Murder" hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley to discuss happenings in true crime, including the Karen Read case in Boston, the upcoming Idaho 4 trial of Bryan Kohberger, the Long Island Serial Killer/Giglo Beach 4 suspect Rex Huermann, and much more. You Tube: Welcome to My Chan…
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New York Times bestselling author Casey Sherman joins "Mind Over Murder" hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley to discuss his new book "A Murder in Hollywood: The Untold Story of Tinseltown's Most Shocking Crime." The book tells the true crime story of how movie star Lana Turner got involved with mobster Johnny Stompanato, an enforcer for Los Angele…
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"Mind Over Murder" presented a live podcast recording session on developments in the Colonial Parkway Murders at the Yorktown Library in Yorktown, Virginia on Monday, May 13, 2024. Here we discuss what to expect at our next "Mind Over Murder Live." Tickets for May 13 event: https://allevents.in/yorktown/live-podcast-mind-over-murder/200026399718622…
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Longtime Boston Globe reporter Stephen Kurkjian joins "Mind Over Murder" hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley to talk about his book, "Master Thieves: The Boston Gangsters Who Pulled Off the World's Greatest Art Heist." This is Part 2 of our discussion with Steve about the 1990 theft of 13 masterworks taken from the Isabella Stewart Gardner Museum,…
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Longtime Boston Globe reporter Stephen Kurkjian joins "Mind Over Murder" hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley to talk about his book, "Master Thieves: The Boston Gangsters Who Pulled Off the World's Greatest Art Heist." This is Part 1 of our discussion with Steve about the 1990 theft of 13 masterworks taken from the Isabella Stewart Gardner Museum,…
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"Mind Over Murder" presented a live podcast recording session on developments in the Colonial Parkway Murders at the Yorktown Library in Yorktown, Virginia on April 15, 2024. The session featured special guest Joyce Call Canada, sister of Keith Call. This is part two, a one hour Q&A session with the live audience. "Mind Over Murder Live" will retur…
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"Mind Over Murder" presented a live podcast recording session on developments in the Colonial Parkway Murders in Yorktown, Virginia on April 15, 2024. The session featured special guest Joyce Call Canada, sister of Keith Call, and was our first podcast recorded before a live audience. This is part one of the evening; part two was a one hour live Q&…
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Kathy Kleiner Rubin, who survived a brutal attack by serial killer Ted Bundy while she was college student at Florida State University, joins "Mind Over Murder" hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley to discuss her inspiring new book, "A Light in the Dark: Surviving More than Ted Bundy," written with Emilie Le Beau Lucchesi. This bonus episode of Min…
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"The Serial Killer's Apprentice: The True Story of How Houston's Deadliest Murderer Turned a Kid Into a Killing Machine" is the new book by authors Katherine Ramsland and Tracy Ullman. The authors join us for a fascinating discussion of killers Dean Corll, David Brooks and Elmer Wayne Henley worked together as victims and perpetrators. The Serial K…
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Author and attorney Kerrie Dorban talks with "Mind Over Murder" podcast hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley about the new book that she so-wrote with Dr. Lynne Fenton, "Aurora The Psychiatrist Who Treated the Movie Theater Killer Tells Her Story." The book tells the behind the scenes story of the Aurora, Colorado movie theater mass killing, the tr…
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M William Phelps, the prolific true crime author of 45 true crime books and host of numerous television series including "Dark Minds," joins "Mind Over Murder" hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley to talk about his two highly successful podcasts "Paper Ghosts" and "Crossing the Line." Latest series of Paper Ghosts podcast "The Ozarks" https://www.i…
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Joyce Call Canada, sister of longtime missing person Richard "Keith" Call, joins "Mind Over Murder" hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley to discuss the 35th anniversary of her younger brother's disappearance together with Cassandra "Sandy" Hailey as part of the still unsolved Colonial Parkway Murders. Joyce fills us in on the status of the FBI and …
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"Mind Over Murder" co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley discuss the Karen Read case in Boston, where an blogger who goes by the nickname "Turtleboy" has aggressively inserted himself in the murder investigation in the death of Karen Read's boyfriend, police officer John O'Keefe. The case has highlighted many concerns about unethical behavior by …
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In this bonus episode, "Mind Over Murder" co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley explore both the unsolved killings which are considered part of the Route 29 Stalker case in Virginia, as well as cases which have since been solved and are not part of the Route 29 Stalker series. Can this longstanding murder mystery be solved? This episode originall…
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With a confirmed serial killer, Alan Wade Wilmer, Sr. being named in the Colonial Parkway Murders in Virginia, "Mind Over Murder" co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley offer a status update on the Colonial Parkway Murders case. We also announce live podcast recording sessions to be held in front of a live audience on Monday, April 15 and Monday, …
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In this bonus episode, "Mind Over Murder" co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley explore both the unsolved killings which are considered part of the Route 29 Stalker case in Virginia, as well as cases which have since been solved and are not part of the Route 29 Stalker series. Can this longstanding murder mystery be solved? This episode originall…
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With a confirmed serial killer, Alan Wade Wilmer, Sr. being named in the Colonial Parkway Murders in Virginia, "Mind Over Murder" co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley take on a new episode of "Ask Us Anything in the Colonial Parkway Murders." Questions for this episode were provided by "Mind Over Murder" listeners. This is Part 3 of 3 new "Ask U…
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In this Bonus episode from 2021, Mind Over Murder co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley discuss the second of the Colonial Parkway Murders, the 1987 double homicide of Robin Edwards and David Knobling. On Monday, January 8, 2024, the Virginia State Police, FBI Norfolk and the Hampton, Virginia Police Department announced that the Edwards/Knobling…
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Dr. Mike Aamodt, the founder of the Serial Killer Database joins "Mind Over Murder" co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley to discuss how the database came into existence, how it helps academics, students and law enforcement investigators understand the lives and minds of serial killer, including Colonial Parkway Murders serial killer Alan Wade Wi…
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