Future People is a bold, future-focused podcast hosted by Dan Moussa, founder of Thirdway Advisory and one of Australia’s most connected talent advisors in real estate development, critical infrastructure, and sustainability. Building on the success of The ESG & Sustainability Podcast—which peaked at #15 on Apple’s Business Charts—Future People widens the lens to explore the stories and strategies of those shaping what’s next. Each episode features unfiltered conversations with leaders who a ...
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Join host Rich Somers, as he interviews top real estate investors, entrepreneurs, and athletes from all over the world to discuss all things real estate, business, and wealth related. His first guests include Tarek El Moussa - real estate investor & TV personality, and Cliff Avril - former Seattle Seahawks player & Super Bowl XLVIII Champion. Rich is an active real estate investor and entrepreneur holding a portfolio of apartment buildings, boutique hotels, and short-term rentals valued in e ...
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He's a Celebrity Chef & Founder of Multiple Restaurants, and Host of Food Network's "Cutthroat Kitchen" | Brian Malarkey E441
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1:00:33From Food Network fame to building a restaurant empire—Brian Malarkey’s done it all. In this episode, Rich sits down with celebrity chef Brian Malarkey—owner of 15+ wildly successful restaurants and host of Cutthroat Kitchen—to unpack the hustle, creativity, and business savvy behind his career. From Top Chef finalist to creating some of San Diego’…
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How Grant Cardone Humbled Him & Why Sales is EVERYTHING | Mike Barron E440
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1:06:08Rich Somers sits down with Mike Barron for an unfiltered conversation about getting humbled, earning your stripes, and why sales is the foundation of every business that actually scales. Mike breaks down his early days working under Grant Cardone, the moment his confidence got checked, and how that experience reshaped the way he thinks about discip…
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Yacht Podcast: He's Worked w/ Top Creator Shelby Sapp and THIS is his biggest Secret to Scaling Your Brand in 2026 | Briar Cochran E439
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18:39Most creators chase growth. The ones who actually scale build systems, discipline, and leverage behind the scenes. Rich Somers sits down with Brair Cochran, who’s worked closely with top creator Shelby Sapp, to break down what really drives brand scale heading into 2026—and why most people are focusing on the wrong levers. From audience growth and …
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You Want to be a Commercial Real Estate Investor? Make Sure You Don't Make These CRE Mistakes! | John Azar & Francisco Herrera E438
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1:00:19Most investors spend their time chasing returns. Institutional investors focus on protecting the downside—and that difference explains exactly why today’s market looks the way it does. Rich sits down with John Azar and Francisco Herrera to unpack what really happened during the euphoric run of 2021–2022, how undisciplined underwriting and risky deb…
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The Economy, Inflation, Soaring BitCoin, and Why He Thinks 3.5% Rates Are Possible | Mark Moss E437
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1:09:54Rich sits down with investor, entrepreneur, and economic historian Mark Moss to break down the hard truth: the system is rigged. From inflation and government overreach to the rise of digital assets and the coming economic reset, Mark explains how we got here—and what you can do to protect and grow your wealth. They cover why traditional financial …
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Hotel Investing Insights & Predictions: He's the National Director for Hospitality Market Analytics CoStar | Jan Freitag E436
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44:04When the market gets noisy, the data gets louder. In this episode, Rich sits down with Jan Freitag — National Director of Hospitality Analytics at CoStar — for a no-spin breakdown of what’s actually happening in hotel investing right now and where the smartest capital is positioning next. Jan pulls back the curtain on real transaction data, RevPAR …
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Preparing for Growth: People Strategy in Family-Owned Companies
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48:32Family-owned businesses face a unique challenge as they grow. The legacy, the relationships and the history are strengths, but they also make senior hiring more complex than most leaders admit. The importance of preparation, alignment and culture mapping before you go to market What good succession planning and market entry look like from a people …
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Personal Branding Strategies From Dan Martell's Creative Director | Sam Gaudet E435
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47:24In this episode of The Report, host Rich sits down with Dan Martel’s Creative Director Sam Gaudet — one of the most dialed-in operators behind some of the most effective personal brands online today. If you’ve ever wondered how top-tier creators grow massive influence, build trust at scale, and pump out high-converting content without burning out… …
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Top Business Credit Cards & the Hidden Strategies No One Talks About | Jack McColl E434
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48:15Still paying for flights in cash? You’re playing the wrong game. In this episode, Rich brings on credit king Jack McColl to expose the credit card hacks, travel tricks, and bank secrets that nobody’s teaching—but everyone should know. From stacking points to flying first class for free, Jack breaks down how to unlock the full power of credit withou…
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Why Sales Is the Ultimate Superpower: A 27-Year-Old Entrepreneur Breaks It Down | Quinn Shilz E433
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48:16In this episode of The Report, we sit down with 27-year-old entrepreneur Quinn Schilz, founder and president of Master Roofing Inc., who’s in the trenches every day building a real business with a real team and real problems to solve. From starting young in real estate and high-ticket sales to running a 20-person operation in Southern California, Q…
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17 Rules That Helped Me Unf*ck My Life Before It Was Too Late | Kassidy Warren E432
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1:31:25Rich and Kassidy break down the 17 rules that pulled Rich out of the darkest, most chaotic season of his life — the mindset shifts, the habits, and the non-negotiables that took him from lost and overwhelmed to locked-in, disciplined, and operating at a completely different level. This isn’t some cute list of “positive habits.” These are the hard-e…
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How This Couple Built the World’s Coolest Mountain Top Treehouse Resort | Seth & Tori Bolt E431
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1:13:46What happens when you combine hospitality, design, and a vision for something extraordinary? You get Bolt Farm Treehouse—a viral luxury escape brand that scaled from a backyard treehouse into an eight-figure business. In this episode of The Rich Somers Report, Rich sits down with Seth and Tori Bolt, founders of Bolt Farm, to unpack how they built a…
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Why Personal Branding Will Make or Break Your Career in 2026 — Top Strategies to Build Influence and Get Noticed | Briar Cochran E430
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55:59In this episode of The Report, Rich brings on one of the sharpest minds in the game when it comes to content strategy, virality, and building brands that punch way above their weight online — Briar Cochran. If you've ever wondered why some creators explode while others stay stuck in 300-view jail, this conversation breaks it all down. Briar reveals…
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When the Mirror Bites Back: Byron Rienstra on Truth, Ego and Real Leadership
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44:43In this powerful episode of Future People, Dan sits down with leadership adviser Byron Rienstra, who has spent more than 25 years working alongside CEOs, boards and founders across Asia and Australia. Together they dive into the uncomfortable, essential questions most leadership books avoid: the difference between management and leadership, why hig…
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Burnout to Badass: How Women Can Reset Their Health | Heather Woelk E429
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1:16:29Struggling to find the balance between results and sustainability when it comes to your health and fitness? In this episode of The Rich Somers Report, Rich sits down with women’s health and fitness coach Heather Woelk to break down the real strategies that help women optimize their bodies, boost energy, and build confidence—without burning out. Ric…
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Pain, Purpose, & Building a Life You're Proud of | Trevor Cowley E428
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1:21:24Rich sits down with entrepreneur, athlete, and absolute savage of a human being, Trevor Cowley. If you’ve seen him online, you know the guy is built different — running 10 miles a day for over a year, attempting a Guinness World Record for most consecutive half marathons, and building multiple 7 and 8 figure companies… all while staying locked in o…
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The Boutique Hotel Blueprint: Scale Faster Than Airbnb Ever Could | E427
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35:39Airbnb is tightening regulations. Mom-and-pop hotel owners are retiring in waves. And the modern traveler doesn’t want cookie-cutter rooms anymore — they want design-driven, Instagrammable stays with real hospitality baked in. In this episode, Rich breaks down the exact playbook he used to escape his 9–5 as an air traffic controller and build a fas…
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How the Wealthy Pay $0 Taxes (Legally) : Tax-Free Wealth Strategies | Carter Cofield & George Acheampong E426
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59:39Most people think taxes are unavoidable — but the wealthy know better. In this episode, Rich sits down with Carter Cofield and George Acheampong to break down the exact frameworks high-net-worth individuals use to legally shrink their tax bill to zero. No shady loopholes. No gray-area tricks. Just straight strategy backed by the tax code itself. Yo…
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How to Write Off Bitcoin — 100% Legally | Colin Yurcisin E425
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36:49Most entrepreneurs are overpaying the IRS simply because they don’t know the game. In this episode, we break down one of the wildest — and completely legal — tax strategies available to business owners right now: using Bitcoin mining equipment to get 100% bonus depreciation while stacking the best-performing asset of the last 15 years. Rich sits do…
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How to Buy Real Estate with $0 - Pace Morby's Exact Playbook | E424
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1:10:23How do you scale from nothing to nearly half a billion dollars in real estate? In this episode of The Rich Somers Report, Rich sits down with Pace Morby, real estate investor and creative finance expert, to break down the low and no money down strategies he used to acquire over $450 million in real estate. Rich and Pace discuss: Why creative financ…
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Sustainability Without the Spin: Xero’s Tamara Somers on Real-World Impact, SMEs, and What Comes Next
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35:14In this episode of Future People, Dan sits down with Tamara Somers, the global head of Sustainability & Impact at Xero - one of the most influential roles shaping how millions of small businesses navigate sustainability, compliance, and climate action. Fresh off a whirlwind trip to the UK, Tamara dives into the realities of doing sustainability wor…
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ADU Investing 101: What No One Tells You | Andrew Greer E423
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50:11Everyone’s talking about ADUs—but few actually understand how to make them profitable. In this episode, Rich sits down with Andrew Greer, real estate developer and founder of Real Estate Codes, to break down the truth about accessory dwelling units, the new AB 1033 law, and how investors are using backyard builds to unlock serious cashflow. From ma…
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The Mental Game of Wealth No One Talks About: Mindset Coach | Jason Drees E422
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59:34Becoming rich starts in your mind—long before it shows up in your bank account. In this episode, Rich sits down with Jason Drees, mindset coach to top entrepreneurs and real estate investors (including BiggerPockets’ Brandon Turner), to unpack the mental frameworks that separate the wealthy from everyone else. From overcoming fear and breaking thro…
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The Truth About Money, Masculinity, and Being a Provider | Albert Preciado E421
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5:40If you’re still splitting dinner bills in your 30s and 40s—it’s time to level up. In this episode, Rich sits down with Albert Preciado for a real conversation about money, masculinity, and what it means to be a provider in today’s world. From learning hard lessons around success and scarcity to embodying what true leadership looks like in relations…
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Why the Average American is One Paycheck From Disaster : Economy Forecast 2026 | Kenny Simpson E420
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52:53Most people think rate cuts will save them—but the truth is, we’re already out of runway. Rich sits down with Kenny Simpson, capital markets expert and founder of KBS Lending, to break down what’s really happening in the economy heading into 2026. From record-high credit card debt to collapsing liquidity and mass layoffs, Kenny shares why most Amer…
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The Truth About Botox, Fat Loss & Alcohol Recovery — Straight from a Doctor | Dr. Reza E419
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40:42We’re living in an age of anti-aging—yet most people still have no idea what actually works. In this episode, Rich sits down with Dr. Reza Tirgari, cosmetic surgeon, founder of Avalon Laser, and creator of the After Party recovery drink, to break down the truth behind Botox, Ozempic, NAD, and the science of feeling (and looking) younger, longer. Fr…
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Tulum Retreat 2025: Real Estate Strategy From the World’s Largest Man Cave Developer | Ryan Garland E418
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46:30Raising capital isn’t about money—it’s about connection, trust, and playing the long game. In this Tulum Retreat 2025 keynote, Rich sits down with Ryan Garland, the visionary behind the world’s largest man cave developments and a $1B+ private equity firm, to break down exactly how to scale real estate the right way. From losing everything to buildi…
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Your People Are the Brand: The Real Story Behind Employer Branding with Mark Puncher
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44:58Every organisation has an employer brand - whether they realise it or not. But how many actually own it, live it, and use it to attract the right people? In this episode of Future People, Dan sits down with Mark Puncher, Founder & CEO of Employer Branding Australia, to unpack what employer branding really means beyond glossy campaigns and polished …
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The Money Lies You Still Believe | Albert Preciado E417
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1:29:15Money doesn’t change you—it exposes who you really are. In this episode, Rich sits down with Albert Preciado, CEO of The Mortgage Guys and founder of Driven Events, to unpack the money myths that keep people broke, scared, and stuck. From growing up in scarcity to building multimillion-dollar companies, Albert shares how rewiring your mindset aroun…
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Stop Settling: Become Their Best Option | Garin Heslop & Yesi Magana E416
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1:01:13You don’t attract what you want—you attract what you are. Rich sits down with power couple Garin and Yesi, founders of The Gynergy Effect, for a raw conversation on dating, relationships, and becoming the kind of person who naturally attracts high-quality love. From healing after heartbreak to finding alignment in fitness, faith, and purpose, they …
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Is this the BEST Time Ever to Become a Pilot? | Captain Curt E415
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7:20Six figures. Half the month off. And a pilot shortage that’s breaking records. In this episode, Rich sits down with Captain Curt to break down why right now might be the best time in history to become a pilot. From $130K starting salaries to captains pulling in $600K–$1M a year, Curt explains how pilots are gaming the system, stacking profit shares…
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Breaking Down the Private Jet Game: How Much They Really Cost | Captain Curt E414
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51:55Private jets aren’t just for billionaires—they’re for anyone who knows how to play the game. In this episode, Rich sits down with private jet captain and aviation broker Captain Curt Marker to unpack what it really costs to own, charter, and operate a private jet. From $3M pre-owned Gulfstreams to $100M G700s, fuel costs, maintenance nightmares, an…
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How He Built a $40 Million Real Estate Portfolio by Age 26 | Blake Rocha E413
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1:13:37From broke in his 20s to retiring his parents and buying a boutique hotel—this is how you build generational wealth from the ground up. In this episode, Rich sits down with real estate investor and entrepreneur Blake Rocha, who’s built a $40M portfolio before turning 26. Blake opens up about growing up middle-class, moving back in with his parents …
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12 Tax Strategies Your CPA Doesn't Know About: Tulum Retreat 2025 | Karlton Dennis E412
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35:57The wealthy don’t guess what they’ll owe in taxes—they plan for it. In this exclusive keynote from The Tulum Retreat 2025, Rich sits down with elite tax strategist Karlton Dennis to break down 12 powerful tax strategies that most CPAs have never even heard of. From self-rentals and family payroll hacks to 100% bonus depreciation and boutique hotel …
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How to Turn Your Points into your Dream Lifestyle: Credit Card & Travel Hacks⎟Eli Facenda E411
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58:28Most people swipe their cards for cash back. The wealthy use them to fly first class, stay in luxury resorts, and live their dream lifestyle—almost free. In this episode, Rich sits down with Eli Facenda, aka The Travel Guy, to reveal the exact systems and hacks that turn everyday business spending into world-class travel experiences. From earning p…
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Beyond Culture: Building Teams That Truly Perform. With Neil Tunnah
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1:11:48Dan sits down with former professional rugby coach and leadership advisor Neil Tunnah to explore what it really takes to build teams that perform at the highest level. From the hidden dangers of “performance restriction” to the overlooked role of culture carriers, Neil shares hard-won lessons from sport and business. His framework of Connection, Cl…
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Private Jet Podcast : How to Get Rich | Mikey Taylor, Karlton Dennis, Jack McColl E410
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1:25:06Most people dream about flying private. The wealthy use it to buy back time. In this episode, Rich hops on a jet with friends and investors to talk about the real mindset and money habits that create financial freedom. From strategic risk-taking to surrounding yourself with winners, this unscripted conversation dives into how the rich actually thin…
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Actionable Steps to Scale Your Business While Integrating Family & Faith: Tulum Retreat 2025 Key Note | Mikey Taylor E409
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44:27Scaling your business means nothing if you lose yourself—or your family—along the way. In this special keynote from the Tulum Retreat 2025, Rich welcomes Mikey Taylor—former pro skater turned real estate entrepreneur and mayor of Thousand Oaks—for a raw and tactical deep dive on building a thriving business without sacrificing your faith, family, o…
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Airbnb is Going Away: Boutique Hotels are the Future of Hospitality | Michael Zuber E408
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51:24The Airbnb gold rush is over—and boutique hotels are taking over. In this episode, Rich sits down with Michael Zuber (One Rental at a Time) to talk about the next big wave in real estate: boutique hotels. From regulations killing short-term rentals to 40 million baby boomers retiring and selling off mom-and-pop motels, Rich breaks down why this mom…
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Escaping Corporate America Through Buying Small Businesses and Real Estate | Brian Luebben E407
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Legacy Over Stadiums: Andrew Chapman on Building Queensland’s Future
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46:48Andrew Chapman, CEO of the Queensland Major Contractors Association, joins Dan to unpack how Brisbane 2032 can leave a real legacy beyond stadiums — with transport-first planning, collaborative procurement, and modern methods of construction. From “think slow, act fast” delivery to modular health and housing, Andrew maps the priorities, the pitfall…
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Do This To Unf*ck Your Life and Escape the 9-5 | Courtney Johnson E406
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1:07:38Nobody knows what they’re doing—and that’s your advantage. In this episode, Rich sits down with personal branding expert Courtney Johnson to break down exactly how to stop waiting for permission, take messy action, and finally escape the 9–5 trap. From building a personal brand that attracts opportunities to using content as leverage, Courtney lays…
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How 1980's Real Estate Will Shape the Next 10 Years | Michael Zuber E405
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56:07History doesn’t repeat—but it sure does rhyme. In this episode, Rich sits down with Michael Zuber, veteran investor and host of One Rental at a Time, to break down why today’s market looks a lot like the 1980s—and what that means for the next decade of real estate. From transaction crashes and affordability issues to interest rate cycles and syndic…
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Asset & Liability Protection: How to Structure Your LLCs For Real Estate | Mauricio Rauld E404
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48:33Asset protection is a game-changer for real estate investors, and Mauricio Rauld is pulling back the curtain on how to structure your LLCs for maximum security. With over two decades of experience as the founder of Premier Law Group, Mauricio is a trusted authority in asset protection and tax strategies for real estate professionals. In this episod…
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Shaping Tomorrow: Leadership Lessons for City-Shaping Projects
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41:45Dan sits down with seasoned development leader Debbie McNamara to unpack what really delivers complex projects: people, clarity and long-term partnership. From UK PPP lessons to Australian health infrastructure, they explore program-over-project thinking, housing as a system (not a silo), and why culture and relationships outperform contracts when …
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He's Coached NBA Stars Kawhi Leonard, Chris Webber, Jalen Rose, and lead San Diego State to the NCAA Championship Game in 2023 | Coach Dutcher E403
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1:01:18He’s Coached NBA Stars Kawhi Leonard, Chris Webber, Jalen Rose—and Led SDSU to the 2023 NCAA Championship Game From the Fab Five at Michigan to the Final Four with San Diego State—Coach Brian Dutcher has seen it all. In this episode, Rich sits down with Coach Dutcher to break down his decades-long journey through college basketball, the rise of SDS…
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85% of Men Below the Age of 50 Experience Hair Loss - He's a Hair Transplant Specialist | Elijah Scholer E402
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35:43Confidence starts at the top—literally. In this episode, Rich sits down with Elijah Scholer, hair transplant specialist and founder of SD Hair MD, to break down the truth about hair loss, baldness, and the cutting-edge procedures giving men (and women) their confidence back. From supplements and DHT blockers to FUT vs. FUE transplants and why Turke…
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Breaking Down the Private Jet Game: Renting vs Owning | Captain Curt E401
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1:03:03Buckle up for an unforgettable ride that spans from the cockpit to the world of real estate. Captain Curt shares his wild adventures flying private jets and his bold transition into real estate investing. With near-miss stories, high-stakes flights, and wealth-building insights, this episode blends adrenaline with smart strategies. Join our investo…
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Closing the Deal: Today's Proven Sales Strategies for Real Estate Agents | Gabe Mendez E400
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1:15:02Automation might get attention—but human connection closes deals. In this episode, Rich sits down with nationally ranked real estate agent and broker Gabe Mendez to unpack what’s really working in sales right now. From door knocking to open houses, webinars to social media, Gabe reveals why “going Flintstones” while everyone else goes Jetsons is th…
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Biological Aging: Your Body Could be Older or Younger Than You Think | Ryan Smith E399
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44:13Your birthday doesn’t tell the full story—your biological age does. In this episode, Rich sits down with Ryan Smith, founder of True Diagnostic, to unpack the groundbreaking science behind measuring how old your body really is on a molecular level. From alcohol’s hidden impact on aging to the supplements, fitness routines, and even psychedelics tha…
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