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Will Welch (Editor: GQ, GQ Style, The Fader, more)
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SMILING THROUGH THE APOCALYPSE — In the past few weeks, Will Welch has taken a bit of flack for letting Beyoncé promote her new whiskey label on the cover of GQ’s October issue, with an interview that one X user described as “an intimate email exchange between GQ and several layers of Beyonce’s comms team.” Whether that kind of thing rankles you or…
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Dominique Browning (Editor & Author: House & Garden, Esquire, Texas Monthly, more)
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WHEN ‘HOUSE’ IS NOT A HOME — Dominique Browning jokes that after the interview for this episode, she might end up having PTSD. After more than 30 years writing and editing at some of the top magazines in the world, Browning has blocked a lot of it out. And after listening today, you’ll understand why. At Esquire, where she worked early in her caree…
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Fabien Baron (Designer: Harper’s Bazaar, Interview, French Vogue, more)
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VIVE LA CREATIVITE! — There are many reasons for you to hate Fabien Baron (especially if you’re the jealous type). Here are 7 of them: • He’s French, which means, among other things, his accent is way sexier than yours. • He’s spent an inordinate amount of time in the company of supermodels like Naomi Campbell, Christy Turlington, and Kate Moss. • …
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Tom Bodkin (Chief Creative Officer: The New York Times)
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THE FIFTH — You cannot overstate how much Tom Bodkin has changed the Times. In fact, you can say that there was the Times before Tom and the Times after Tom. The Times before Tom threw as many words as possible at the page, with little regard for the reader. The Times before Tom thought tossing a couple of headshots on the page was all the visual j…
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Best of PID—Hans Teensma (Designer: Outside, New England Monthly, Disney, more)
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DUTCH MASTER — Dutch-born, California-raised designer Hans Teensma began his magazine career working alongside editor Terry McDonell at Outside magazine, which Rolling Stone founder Jann Wenner launched in San Francisco in 1977. When Wenner sold Outside two years later, Teensma and McDonell headed to Denver to launch a new regional, Rocky Mountain …
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Best of PID—Janet Froelich (Designer: The New York Times Magazine, T, Real Simple)
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THE ART DIRECTOR’S ART DIRECTOR — Janet Froelich is one of the most influential and groundbreaking creative directors of all time. For over two decades, she lead the creative teams at The New York Times Magazine and its sister publication, T: The New York Times Style Magazine. In this episode, Froelich recalls her own personal 9/11 story, and what …
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Best of PID—Dan Winters (Photographer: The New York Times, Texas Monthly, Wired, more)
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A HANDY MAN — Photographers are gearheads. They’re always throwing around brand names, model numbers, product specs. So when legendary photographer Eddie Adams asked today’s guest, Dan Winters, if he knew how to handle a JD-450, it was a no-brainer. He had grown up with a JD-350. So yeah, the 450 would be no problem. But here’s the funny thing: the…
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Best of PID—George Gendron (Editor: Inc., New York, Boston Magazine, more)
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THE JAZZ OF THE NEWSROOM — In this episode, we talk to George Gendron, the long-time editor [Inc. Magazine] and educator who created one of the first liberal arts-based entrepreneurship programs in America. We talk about his first job working under legendary editor Clay Felker in the early days of New York magazine, how a third-grade book report se…
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Best of PID—Michele Outland (Designer: Bon Appétit, Gather Journal, Nylon, more)
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THE ARTIST AS ENTREPRENEUR — Michele Outland has spent her career at some really beautiful magazines. Beautiful ... because she made them that way. Her resume includes stops at Martha Stewart’s Everyday Food, Domino, Nylon, and Bon Appétit, as well as the magazine she created and launched with her good friend, Fiorella Valdesolo: Gather Journal. Ga…
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Best of PID—Kurt Andersen (Author & Editor: Spy Magazine, New York, Studio360, more)
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THE GREATEST STARTUP IN THE HISTORY OF MAGAZINE STARTUPS — We’ve always had a thing for magazine launches. They’re filled with drama and melodrama, people behaving with passion and conviction, and people ... misbehaving. Anything to get that first issue onto the stands and into the hands of readers. Some new ventures seem to sneak in the back door.…
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Best of PID—Roger Black (Designer: Rolling Stone, Esquire, Newsweek, New York, Smart, more)
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WHAT’S BLACK AND WHITE AND RED ALL OVER? — Roger Black is a pioneer. His art direction of iconic print brands and high-profile redesigns, his early embrace of digital publishing technology, and his typographic innovations are hallmarks of a 50-year, trailblazing career. He’s refined his design mastery at publications ranging from Rolling Stone to E…
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Rob Orchard (Cofounder/Editor: Delayed Gratification, Time Out, more)
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THE SLOWER THE BETTER — Given that this is the final show of the season, it is perhaps a bit poetic that our guest today is Rob Orchard from Delayed Gratification. Not that we would plan an episode around a bad pun. Not us. Delayed Gratification is media created to comment on, and offer a counterpoint to, the media. Rob Orchard and his team met eac…
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Richard Turley (Designer: Interview, Bloomberg Businessweek, Civilization, more)
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RICHARD TURLEY CAN’T STOP, WON’T STOP — Richard Turley is changing the idea of the magazine. Richard Turley has no idea what a magazine is in the year 2024. And in this sense, he is not so different from you or I. Richard Turley’s magazines—and there are many—are confrontations, loaded with text, or not, sometimes, but if you ask him, he’s not sure…
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IT’S COMPLICATED — If Teen Vogue’s editorial still surprises you, it might be time to admit that this says more about you than it does about Teen Vogue. And also, perhaps, that you haven’t been paying attention. Teen Vogue is not the first magazine aimed at “the young” of course, and it’s not the first one to address multiple issues. But…Teen Vogue…
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THE FIFTH — I want you to stop what you’re doing for just a moment and imagine we’re back in 1998. (Those of you born since then will have to use your imagination). We’re on an ASME panel exploring the future of magazines in the digital age. The moderator, eager to get the discussion off to a lively start, turns to you and asks, “What magazine that…
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Gail Bichler (Designer: The New York Times Magazine)
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THE FINE ART OF MAGAZINE MAKING — Imagine this: You’re a 42-year-old designer who’s only worked at one magazine. Ever. Then one day, unexpectedly, you’re tasked to lead the design of that magazine. Now imagine that the magazine is universally lauded as a design masterpiece. Add to that, your immediate predecessors have both been enshrined into ever…
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Kerry Diamond (Founder & Editor: Cherry Bombe)
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THE CHERRY ON TOP — Cherry Bombe is a full-course meal. Its founder, Kerry Diamond, created the magazine after working in titles like Women’s Wear Daily and Harper’s Bazaar, and after working for brands like Lancôme. And in the restaurant industry. She worked in restaurants at a time when everything culinary was in the ascendance in the zeitgeist. …
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Willa Bennett (Editor: Highsnobiety, GQ, Seventeen, more)
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THE HOLLYWOOD REPORTER — In early April, what’s left of the magazine industry gathered at Terminal 5 to see who would win this year’s National Magazine Awards—the ASMEs. Throughout the evening, the usual suspects stepped up to accept their Alexander Calder brass elephants—the ‘Ellies’—on behalf of their teams at The Atlantic, New York, and The New …
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Mike Rogge (Editor & Owner: Mountain Gazette)
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WELCOME TO THE GREAT OUTDOORS — Mountain Gazette is one of those media … things … that only long-time fans really know about, with a long and colorful history. A kind of Village Voice of the outdoors, the first incarnation (1966) of the magazine was about mountains and for “mountain people”—a lifestyle magazine for those who weren’t interested in e…
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Janice Min (Editor: The Hollywood Reporter, Us Weekly, Ankler Media, more))
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THE HOLLYWOOD REPORTER — A good editor can, theoretically, edit any magazine, regardless of genre. But in some cases, you need an outsider to make things right. To see the forest for the trees. To that end, Janice Min has planted acres of forests—one tree at a time—on both coasts, where the Colorado-born editor considers herself an outsider. “I car…
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Emma Rosenblum (Chief Content Officer, Bustle)
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EVERYTHING OLD IS NEW AGAIN — Emma Rosenblum is a best selling author and is about to release a new novel. But that’s not why she’s here. As the chief content officer at Bustle Digital Group, overseeing content and strategy for titles like Bustle, Elite Daily, and Nylon, she has witnessed some if not all of the massive shifts and changes in the med…
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Scott Dadich (Designer & Editor: Wired, Texas Monthly, more)
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DESIGN, BUILD, AND MODIFY — In his mid-20s, Scott Dadich told his editor at Texas Monthly, Evan Smith, that he wanted his job. A move like that is a combination of arrogance, youth, and frankly, balls. But you should also know that Dadich is an engineer. And what do engineers do? Well, according to one definition in Merriam-Webster, they “skillfull…
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Kirsten Algera & Ernst van der Hoeven (Cofounders, MacGuffin)
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THE EXTRAORDINARY LIFE OF THINGS — The Bed. The Window. The Rope. The Sink. The Cabinet. The Ball. The Trousers. The Desk. The Rug. The Bottle. The Chain. The Log. The Letter. These aren’t random words thrown together, nor am I reading a list of things I need to buy—though stop for a moment and admire the poetry and cadence of the list. No, those w…
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Linda Wells (Editor: Allure, Air Mail Look, Revlon, more)
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No ‘Visions of Loveliness’ — Picture it: It’s 1991. You’re sitting at your desk at The New York Times, when you get a call from the office of Condé Nast’s Alexander Liberman. Alex wants to meet you for lunch at La Grenouille to discuss an opportunity: Si Newhouse has decided to launch the first-ever beauty magazine, and he thinks you’re just the wo…
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Caitlin Thompson (Cofounder & Editor, Racquet)
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STRING THEORY — Media, and most every brand in general, talks a lot about building and nurturing a community. Tribes, even. Finding one, inserting yourself into it, and then making your message an integral part of it. And what activity creates a more loyal community, than sports? If there is the ultimate niche audience, sports is it. It goes withou…
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Edel Rodriguez (Illustrator: Time, Mother Jones, Der Spiegel, more)
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WHAT'S RED AND YELLOW AND ORANGE ALL OVER? — The images are iconic. And you know who they depict. They may be the most unforgettable magazine covers to emerge from the chaos of the late 2010s. Why are they so effective? Because of the implicit understanding of what’s being said between artist and audience—without a word being spoken. Using just thr…
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Kat Craddock (CEO & Editor-in-Chief: Saveur)
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Saveur was always a little different from the other food magazines. It was not exactly highbrow, but it did expand the definition of what a food magazine could be. If anything, it was a magazine about culture—centered on food, sure—but also about places, and things, and people. It was a magazine for foodies before the word “foodie” was invented—and…
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John Huey (Editor: Time Inc., Fortune, more)
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THE LAST EMPEROR — It might be difficult to remember, at least for our younger listeners, how vast the Time-Life empire was. At its height, during the John Huey dynasty of the late 1990s/early 2000s, the company published over 100 magazines. Quite a rise from its humble beginning in 1922, when Henry Luce launched Time as the country’s first newswee…
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Jeremy Leslie is a magazine person. A lifer. He has had his hands in a diverse group of publications and media, including Time Out, The Guardian, Blitz, and many others. Since 2006, he has led magCulture, which started out as a research project, became a well respected blog, but now includes a retail outlet in London, a consultancy, events and conf…
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John Korpics (Designer: Esquire, ESPN, Entertainment Weekly, more)
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MY EFFING CAREER — When you’re born in a town called Media, your career path is pretty much preordained. It has to be, right? And when you end up leading the design teams at blue-chip magazine brands at Condé Nast, Hearst, and Time Inc., the prophecy is then fully realized. (Yes, I just watched Dune). But the journey in between is not as cushy as y…
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Introducing our new podcast all about the future of magazines — and the magazines of the future. Check out episode 1, our interview with Vanity Fair editor-in-chief Radhika Jones. — Radhika Jones was named editor in chief of Vanity Fair in November 2017, the fifth editor in the magazine’s storied history. Her hiring was met with some surprise, and …
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Rochelle Udell (Designer & Editor: Self, Vogue, Epicurious, more)
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THE ULTIMATE HYPHENATE — Rochelle Udell is many things. She is all of these things: teacher, ad woman, vice president, founder, wife, creative director, mentor, chair woman, student, marketer, graduate, design director, editor-in-chief, mother, chief talent officer, executive vice president, collector, president, meditator, internet strategist, par…
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Mark Seliger (Photographer: Rolling Stone, Vanity Fair, GQ, more)
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THE NEW YORK OBSERVER — “I finally went up to Graydon and I said, ‘Hey, you know, I know you like me. I know you wanted me to be here, but I can also do covers.’” • • • That’s today’s guest, Mark Seliger. He’s the same Mark Seliger who, at the moment of this exchange with Vanity Fair editor Graydon Carter, had already shot over 180 covers for Rolli…
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Tina Brown (Editor: Vanity Fair, The New Yorker, more)
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A CRIME OF ATTITUDE — As George Bernard Shaw once said, “England and America are two countries separated by the same language.” Turns out it may be more than just the language. Early in my career it became clear the British were coming. The first wave arrived when I was an editor at New York magazine: Jon Bradshaw, Anthony Hayden-Guest, Julian Alle…
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Neville Brody (Designer: The Face, Arena, Actuel, more)
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The Prime of Mr. Neville Brody — “Once you have broken down the rules, literally anything is possible.’” In the business of magazine design, few names resonate as profoundly as Neville Brody. And, to this day, he lives by those words. Renowned for his groundbreaking work and commitment to pushing design boundaries at magazines like The Face, Arena,…
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Tyler Brûlé (Editor & Founder: Monocle, Wallpaper*, Konfekt, more)
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One Eye on the World — “When life itself seems lunatic, who knows where madness lies? Perhaps to be too practical is madness. To surrender dreams, this may be madness. To seek treasure where there is only trash. Too much sanity may be madness. And maddest of all, to see life as it is, not as it should be!” — Don Quixote de la Mancha Monocle, the br…
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Stella Bugbee (Editor & Designer: NY Times Style, The Cut, Domino, more)
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A Style All Her Own — This summer, our first collaboration with The Spread—the Episode 21 interview with former Cosmopolitan Editor-in-Chief Joanna Coles—became our most-listened-to episode ever. Now Rachel Baker and Maggie Bullock are back, and this time they’re speaking with another game-changing woman in media: Stella Bugbee, the editor of The N…
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Albert Watson (Photographer: Vogue, Rolling Stone, Harper's Bazaar, more)
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Today’s guest, the celebrated photographer Albert Watson, OBE, is a man on the move. This is not a recent development. Watson’s professional journey began in Scotland in 1959, where he studied mathematics at night. His day job? Working for the Ministry of Defense plotting courses—speed, altitude, distance, payload—for British missiles pointed towar…
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Gail Anderson (Designer: Rolling Stone, SpotCo, SVA, more)
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Designing Her Life — It’s impossible to look at Gail Anderson’s body of work and not be reminded of the limitless potential of design. A traditional biography might pinpoint her education at the School of Visual Arts in the early eighties as her launchpad. But Gail actually kicked off her career much earlier when, as a kid, she created and designed…
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Terry McDonell (Editor: Sports Illustrated, Esquire, Newsweek, Rolling Stone, more)
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The Accidental Editor-in-Chief — Today’s guest, Terry McDonell, is the kind of editor you fear based on reputation, but would probably run through a wall for at 3am on deadline day. As for that reputation, I’ve never worked with McDonell, but a simple Google search fills the screen with an undeviating set of impressions like these: “he helped defin…
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Robert Priest (Designer: 8x8, GQ, Esquire, InStyle, more)
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An Englishman in New York — If you can count yourself among the lucky ones who’ve met Robert Priest in person, any chance you remember what you were wearing? Well, fear not: He does. According to his business partner, the designer Grace Lee, Priest possesses a near-photographic memory of how people present themselves. And those first impressions la…
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Gloria Steinem (Founder & Editor, Ms. Magazine, more)
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A Revolution from Within — This episode is about a girl from East Toledo, Ohio. A girl who taught herself to read by devouring comic books, horse stories, and Louisa May Alcott. A girl who didn’t set foot in a school until she was 14. A young woman who went to India for two years to avoid getting married—to anyone. A young woman who was described b…
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Bob Ciano (Designer: LIFE, Esquire, Wired, more)
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It’s a Wonderful LIFE Today’s guest, Bob Ciano, is probably best known as the designer who guided the venerable LIFE magazine into its second chapter, shifting, after five decades as a weekly, to a monthly. But in an era where editors and art directors did not enjoy the downright chummy partnerships we have now, he’s known for a lot more. In his ca…
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Anita Kunz (Illustrator: The New Yorker, Rolling Stone, more)
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A Freaking National Treasure By any measure, Anita Kunz has built a dream career. She’s won every award, been inducted into every hall of fame, won every medal and national distinction. When her native Canada ran out of honors to bestow, the country minted a postage stamp in her honor. Over the last 40 years, the Toronto-based illustrator has creat…
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Jann Wenner (Founder & Editor, Rolling Stone, more)
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All the News that Fit Imagine there’s no sixties. In 1967, today’s guest was a college dropout whose Plan B was to start a rock ’n’ roll magazine. Plan A? “Kicking back, having a good time, delivering letters, and smoking dope all day” as a San Francisco postal worker. But thanks to a nudge from his mentor, Ralph Gleason, and a cash infusion from h…
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Joanna Coles (Editor: Cosmo, Marie Claire, more)
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The Last Celebrity Magazine Editor Hello and welcome to a very special episode of Print Is Dead (Long Live Print!). For our first “pod-nership,” we’ve teamed up with The Spread, the brainchild of two former Elle magazine editors and “work wives,” Rachel Baker and Maggie Bullock, who, in 2021 found themselves wishing for the perfect women’s magazine…
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Barry Blitt (Illustrator: The New Yorker, Air Mail, more)
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He’s Never Felt More Naked Barry Blitt wants you to laugh at him, not with him. Because laughing with him means you’d have to be where he is. And, “thanks very much,” but he’d rather not. He’s happy enough just drawing for himself. “I’m trying to make myself laugh,” he says. “That’s the point, that’s part of the process, it’s as un-self-conscious a…
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Walter Bernard (Designer: New York, Time, Fortune, more)
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When your business partner is Milton Glaser, the most celebrated designer in the world, what does that mean for you? If you’re Walter Bernard, today’s guest, you accept it as the gift it is, and then you go out and make yourself an extraordinary career. Here’s three things you need to know about Walter Bernard: 1) He was the founding art director o…
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David Granger (Editor: Esquire, more)
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A Man at His F*#king Best We’re 18 episodes into this podcast, and while several interesting themes have surfaced, one of the more unexpected threads is this: Nearly all magazine-inclined men dream of one day working at Esquire. (Some women, too). Turns out that’s also true for today’s guest. Which is a good thing because that’s exactly what David …
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Alex Hunting (Designer: Kinfolk, Mondial, Sabato, more)
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For the past ten or so years, indie magazines have been booming. As digital media platforms relentlessly chase clicks and smartphones paralyze our focus, a host of fresh print publications are taking a slower and more measured approach. Guided by the tenets of the “slow media” movement, this new breed of publishers focuses on correcting the pace of…
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