The Waggle is the official podcast of the Canadian Football League hosted by Donnovan Bennett.
Richard Deitsch and Donnovan Bennett host a podcast about how COVID-19 is impacting sports around the world. They talk to experts, athletes and personalities, putting big news into perspective, highlighting great journalism and offering a window into the lives of people we normally root for in entirely different ways.
If there is a podcasting odd couple, this might be it. Donnovan Bennett and JD Bunkis don’t agree on much, but what you’ll agree on is this is the best Toronto Raptors podcast going.
The Sports Media Podcast with Richard Deitsch is a weekly show that features interviews with members of the sports media about their work, as well as roundtables with sports media reporters about television, digital, audio/radio, print, and other forms of media. You can read Richard’s work at The Athletic and hear his words at Sportsnet 590 The Fan in Toronto.
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Jimmy Traina of Sports Illustrated and Chad Finn of the Boston Globe
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Episode 139 of the Sports Media Podcast features two guests — Sports Illustrated writer Jimmy Traina and Boston Globe columnist Chad Finn — for a roundtable discussion on various sports media topics. In the podcast we discuss Paul Pierce and ESPN parting ways and why the decision was made; did ESPN make the correct decision with Pierce; the ascende…
The honour is all ours on this episode of The Waggle as we get the opportunity to speak with three of the newest members of the Canadian Football Hall of Fame - Orlondo Steinauer, Nik Lewis and Marv Levy.By Canadian Football League
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Global Draft and Scouring the world for talent
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With the CFL Global Draft coming up on April 15th, the Canadian Football League's CFO & Head of Football Operations, Greg Dick, joins Donnovan to discuss the challenges of scouting and drafting global talent during a pandemic.By Canadian Football League
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Paul Heyman goes behind the scenes on Wrestlemania and the WWE
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Episode 138 features Paul Heyman, a longtime WWE performer — he currently is the special counsel for Universal Champion Roman Reigns —and sports entertainment impresario. In this podcast, Heyman discusses how doing press has changed for wrestling performers from the 2000s to current day; how much the public should the media know about the private l…
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NFL Network reporter Stacey Dales and ESPN MLB Reporter Marly Rivera
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Episode 137 of the Sports Media Podcast with Richard Deitsch features two guests. First up is NFL Network reporter Stacey Dales. She is followed by ESPN national baseball reporter Marly Rivera. In this podcast Dales discusses her journey from Canada to becoming an All-America basketball player at the University of Oklahoma to playing professional b…
The always-inspirational Henoc Muamba joins Donnovan to discuss his decision to sign with the Argonauts, the influence of the perhaps even MORE inspiring Michael 'Pinball' Clemons and how his family has changed him as a person.By Canadian Football League
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Seeking change with Bryan Chiu + Dickenson talks Combine & Draft
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James Andrew Miller and Anthony Crupi on the NFL’s new media deals
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Episode 136 of the Sports Media Podcast with Richard Deitsch examines the NFL media deals. The guests are Jim Miller, James Andrew Miller, the best-selling author of books on CAA, ESPN and Saturday Night Live and the host of the “Origins” podcast, and Anthony Crupi, the sports media reporter for Sportico. Miller focuses on the ESPN deal and what it…
This week we speak to just a few of the great women doing incredible work around the CFL. Donnovan is joined by guest co-host Kate McKenna as they talk with Sara Orlesky (CFL on TSN), Arielle Zerr (Saskatchewan Roughriders), Gemma Karstens-Smith (Canadian Press) and Kristina Costable (CFL.ca).By Canadian Football League
Episode 135 of the Sports Media Podcast with Richard Deitsch features Sean Shapiro, an NHL reporter for The Athletic who specializes in the business of hockey, and Ryan S. Clark, who covers the NHL and Seattle Kraken for The Athletic, for a discussion on ESPN’s seven-year television, streaming and media rights deal. The new agreement will run from …
James Duthie, Dave Randorf and Rod Smith join Donnovan to share stories and reflect on their time spent with Chris Schultz on the CFL on TSN panel. Schultz, the face of football on TSN in Canada, sadly passed away at the age of 61 last week.By Rod Smith, Dave Randorf, James Duthie
For International Women's Day we spoke with Reina Iizuka, the first woman in history to crack the roster of a Canadian University men's football team with the Manitoba Bisons.To see a great video on Reina's story, click here: https://vimeo.com/347148800By Canadian Football League
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How to create a great podcast with Conrad Thompson and Jim Ross
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Episode 134 of the Sports Media Podcast with Richard Deitsch features Conrad Thompson and Jim Ross, the duo that make up the popular “Grilling JR” podcast. In this podcast, Thompson, the host of six immensely popular wrestling podcasts, and Ross, one of the iconic voices in the history of professional wrestling and a current broadcaster for All Eli…
The Toronto Argonauts made a big splash, in fact, a number of big splashes this off-season. This week on The Waggle, Donnovan talks to head coach Ryan Dinwiddie about all the moves and how he's feeling finally heading into his first season at the helm.By Canadian Football League
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John Ourand on the immediate future of the NFL on television and streaming services
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Episode 133 of the Sports Media Podcast with Richard Deitsch features a conversation with Sports Business Daily media writer John Ourand on the NFL media rights. In this podcast, Ourand and Deitsch discuss where things stand between the football-airing networks and the NFL regarding a rights extension; why John believes CBS and NBC are the furthest…
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Shared experiences as black broadcasters: Milt Stegall and Jermain Franklin
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Donnovan is joined for the final instalment in our Black History Month series by TSN's Milt Stegall and Jermain Franklin, who have each blazed their own unique trail through the landscape of the CFL and Canadian sportscasting. 0:00 Welcome to the Waggle presented by Sport Clips 2:17 What does Black History Month mean to you? 10:41 Navigating the CF…
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Mentorship and representation in broadcasting with Duane Forde
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Donnovan is joined by mentor and broadcasting colleague Duane Forde, a mainstay of the CFL on TSN broadcast team since 2008, for a discussion about the experience of black broadcasters in football and the media industry as a whole. 0:00 Welcome to the Waggle presented by Sport Clips 2:38 Duane Forde. Quick thoughts on off-season activity 10:30 Duan…
Episode 132 of the Sports Media Podcast with Richard Deitsch features longtime ESPN Monday Night Football play by play broadcaster Steve Levy. In this podcast, Levy discusses calling Monday Night Football this season; the challenges of broadcasting during a pandemic; what management has told him about returning to the booth along with partners Loui…
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An examination of Super Bowl Viewership with John Ourand and Austin Karp
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Episode 131 of the Sports Media Podcast with Richard Deitsch features a roundtable on Super Bowl viewership with Sports Business Daily media writer John Ourand and Austin Karp, the Managing Editor/Digital at Sports Business Journal. In this podcast, Deitsch, Ourand and Karp discuss the Super Bowl averaging 96.4 million viewers across all platforms,…
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Free Agency Analysis with Farhan Lalji and Spencer Zimmerman
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With day one of 2021 free agency in the books, Donnovan is joined by two experts with a deep passion for the game. TSN's Farhan Lalji provides his thoughts on Solomon Elimimian's retirement, the Argos' impressive early moves, and how grassroots football can bounce back in Canada post-COVID. Later on the episode we hear from Spencer Zimmerman, an ex…
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Chelsea Janes of The Washington Post and Sportnet's (Canada) Donnovan Bennett
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Episode 130 of the Sports Media Podcast with Richard Deitsch features two guests: Chelsea Janes, a national baseball writer for the Washington Post who previously covered the 2020 U.S. Presidential election. She is followed by Donnovan Bennett, a host, podcaster and writer for Sportsnet in Canada (where I work as well in addition to The Athletic). …
Donnovan connects with former CFL quarterback and coach Marcus Brady, who transitioned from the Argos coaching staff to the NFL in 2018 and was promoted to offensive coordinator of the Indianapolis Colts last month.By Canadian Football League
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Lessons learned from an extraordinary off-season with Bombers GM Kyle Walters
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Winnipeg's General Manager Kyle Walters chats with Donnovan about the unique challenges and tribulations of the pandemic off-season, and looking ahead to the new landscape of the CFL post-COVID. 0:00 Welcome to the Waggle presented by Sport Clips 2:07 Welcome Kyle Walters 5:28 Art vs. Science: is CFL GM the toughest exec job in sport? 9:01 Implicat…
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Sports Business Daily media writer John Ourand
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Episode 129 of the Sports Media Podcast with Richard Deitsch features a conversation with Sports Business Daily media writer John Ourand. In this podcast, Deitsch and Ourand discuss NBCSN shuttering at the end of the year and assets moving to Peacock; what the end of NBCSN means for the NHL upcoming media rights deal; the future of Dan Le Batard an…
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Rhiannon Walker and Britt Ghiroli of The Athletic and writer and educator Jane McManus
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Episode 128 of the Sports Media Podcast with Richard Deitsch features three guests for a roundtable discussion on the Jared Porter story and sexual harassment of female sports reporters: Rhiannon Walker, a staff writer who covers Washington football team for The Athletic; Jane McManus, the Director of the Marist's Center for Sports Communication, a…
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Transfer talk with Ottawa born OL Liam Dobson
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Donnovan chats with Canadian NCAA lineman Liam Dobson, CFL prospect and sought after transfer from University of Maine who has found a new home at Texas State for his final season of college play. 0:00 Welcome to the Waggle presented by Sport Clips 3:33 Why Texas State was a good fit 9:49 Liam's viral photo from last year 13:35 Natural athleticism …
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Broadcaster Noah Eagle on calling the Nickelodeon NFL game and Ryan S. Clark of The Athletic of the NHL
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Episode 127 of the Sports Media Podcast with Richard Deitsch features two guests. First up is Noah Eagle, who called Nickelodeon’s first-ever NFL broadcast and is also the radio voice of the L.A. Clippers. He is followed by Ryan S. Clark, who covers the NHL and Seattle Kraken for The Athletic. In this podcast, Eagle discusses the Nickelodeon NFL br…
Roughriders quarterback Cody Fajardo checks in on The Waggle to talk about his latest extension with the team and share how he's handled a year without football at home. Later on the show, Cody shows off his analyst chops as he gives his thoughts on each NFL quarterback in the playoffs this weekend. 0:00 Welcome to the Waggle presented by SportClip…
Episode 126 of the Sports Media Podcast with Richard Deitsch features James Andrew Miller, the best-selling author of books on CAA, ESPN and Saturday Night Live and the host of the “Origins” podcast. In this podcast, Miller and Deitsch discuss a dark day for American democracy and Miller’s time working at the U.S. Capitol; what ESPN’s 2021 will loo…
2:00 - Marshall talks Canadians in NCAA 27:30 - CFL Free Agency & Jeremiah Masoli outlook 40:00 - The Chris Streveler conversationBy Canadian Football League
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Renee Paquette and Shalise Manza Young
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Episode 125 of the Sports Media Podcast features two guests. First up is Renee Paquette, who worked for nearly eight years as a WWE broadcaster under the name Renee Young. She is the host of “Oral Sessions with Renée Paquette,” an uncensored and unscripted weekly in-depth conversation with a personality. She is followed by Shalise Manza Young, a co…
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Chez is home for the holidays + Planning a CFL celebrity dinner party
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Davis Sanchez returns to the pod just in time for our special holiday episode. Donnovan and Chez break down their dream guest list for a fantasy CFL holiday party. Who's cooking in the kitchen? Who's mixing the drinks? Why is Milt Stegall wearing a beard?? All that and more on the final episode of the year of the Waggle. 0:00 Welcome the Waggle pre…
Episode 124 of the Sports Media Podcast with Richard Deitsch features two guests. First up is Sports Illustrated writer Jimmy Traina, the host of the Sports Illustrated Media Podcast. In this podcast Traina and Deitsch discuss the state of NFL broadcasting; ESPN’s Monday Night Football booth and what will happen next; whether an Amazon or Netflix w…
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Canadian connections with NFL reporter Stacey Dales + Rick Campbell on the day football came back to the capital
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Donnovan is joined by Stacey Dales, pro basketball player turned sports analyst currently for the NFL Network. Stacey reveals what it was like growing up with a CFL All-Star punter for a brother, and how her experience as a high level athlete has translated to her career as a reporter. Later on the show, Rick Campbell reflects on his recent Remote …
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James Andrew Miller on the increasing number of ESPN departures
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Episode 123 of the Sports Media Podcast with Richard Deitsch features James Andrew Miller, the best-selling author of books on CAA, ESPN and Saturday Night Live and the host of the “Origins” podcast. In this podcast, Miller and Deitsch discuss ESPN and Dan Le Batard announcing they are mutually parting ways; why that relationship ended; the impact …
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Looking ahead to a free agency like no other with Chris O'Leary + Travis Lulay's memories of the 2011 Grey Cup
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Chris O'Leary joins Donnovan to highlight some of the more intriguing names found on the recently released free agent list, now available at CFL.ca. Later on the show, Travis Lulay reveals what it was like virtually gathering with his 2011 teammates to relive Grey Cup glory. 0:00 Welcome to the Waggle presented by Sport Clips 2:39 Chris O'Leary joi…
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The process of creating a CFL schedule with Trevor Hardy
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Donnovan chats with AVP of Business Operations & Analytics, Trevor Hardy. Known as @CFLCapGuy on Twitter, Trevor is the spreadsheet wizard tasked with creating the CFL schedule each season.By Canadian Football League
Episode 122 of the Sports Media Podcast with Richard Deitsch features Trey Wingo, who joined ESPN in 1997 and anchored multiple sports and events for the network including serving as the lead host of ESPN’s NFL Draft coverage. Wingo is debuting a new podcast series this week — Half-Forgotten History. In this podcast Wingo discusses his new podcast …
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Ray, Mass & Maciocia reflect 15 years later + Ed Tait talks untouchable Dunigan record
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15 years after capturing a heart-stopping Grey Cup victory for Edmonton, Ricky Ray, Jason Maas and Danny Maciocia look back but also talk about the CFL going forward into 2021. Later, Blue Bombers' writer Ed Tait talks about a Matt Dunigan passing record that may be impossible to break.By Canadian Football League
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Ryan Ruocco of ESPN and the YES Network and Lindsey Adler and Olivia Witherite of The Athletic
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Episode 121 of the Sports Media Podcast with Richard Deitsch features three guests. First up is ESPN and YES Network broadcaster Ryan Ruocco, who serves as a play-by-play announcer for ESPN’s NBA and WNBA coverage and was most recently named to serve as ESPN’s lead play-by-play commentator for Women’s college basketball. He is followed by Lindsey A…
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Talking 'All-Decade Team' with Duane Forde
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With the unveiling of the 2010-2019 "All-Decade Team", we've brought in the one and only Duane Forde to break down who stands out the most of all the talented names on the list. Later, we talk to the best coach of the 1980s, Hugh Campbell, about his Edmonton dynasty in Remote Reunion Revisited.By Canadian Football League
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Hall of Fame basketball coach Muffet McGraw and soccer journalist Grant Wahl
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Episode 120 of the Sports Media Podcast with Richard Deitsch features two guests. First up is Hall of Fame basketball coach Muffet McGraw, who served as the head women's basketball coach at Notre Dame from 1987 to 2020, leading her team to nine Final Fours, seven championship game appearances, and two National Championships. Last month McGraw joine…
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The Great Hugh Campbell + talking 09 Als with Rick Moffat
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We had the distinct privilege this week to talk to a CFL living legend - Hugh Campbell. The TEN-TIME Grey Cup champion and Hall-of-Famer talks about his life in the CFL, including a monumental 16-player trade he once pulled off with the Argonauts. Later, Rick Moffat talks about the 13th Man game and the 09 Alouettes championship.…
Episode 119 of the Sports Media Podcast with Richard Deitsch features James Andrew Miller, the best-selling author of books on CAA, ESPN and Saturday Night Live the host of the “Origins” podcast. In this podcast, Miller discusses the ESPN layoffs; the behind-the-scenes impact of the layoffs; what it means for the company heading forward; the indust…
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Riders' "Canadian Air Force" Reunited + Jamie Nye talks '07 Grey Cup
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We're going green this week - specifically, Rider green. First, we've gathered the Riders' "Canadian Air Force" receivers Jason Clermont, Andy Fantuz, Chris Getzlaf and Rob Bagg. Later, Jamie Nye stops by to talk the 2007 Riders Grey Cup team for our Remote Reunion Revisited.By Canadian Football League
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ESPN’s Chris Fowler, Jordan Cornette and Shae Peppler Cornette of ESPN Radio and author and sports writer Harvey Araton
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Episode 118 of the Sports Media Podcast with Richard Deitsch features three guests. First up is ESPN’s Chris Fowler, the lead college football and tennis voice for ESPN. He is followed by Jordan Cornette and Shae Peppler Cornette, who co-host ESPN Radio’s GameDay each Sunday during football season from 1-5 p.m. ET. It is the first time a married co…
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Singleton in the spotlight + Morreale and the Ticats "Beer Room"
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Fresh off a pick-6 against the Niners and blowing up the Giants' backfield, former Stampeder and current Eagles LB Alex Singleton catches up with Donnovan. Afterwards, Hamilton-born receiver Mike Morreale talks about winning the 1999 Grey Cup with the Ticats (and all the partying that ensued) in Remote Reunion Revisited.…
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Rick Campbell weighs in on state of Leos after Hervey departure
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BC Lions head coach Rick Campbell discusses GM Ed Hervey stepping down and how the team moves forward in an already difficult year. Later, Don Landry reminisces on the dominance of the 96 Toronto Argonauts.By Canadian Football League
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An expert sports viewership roundtable with Michael Mulvihill of Fox Sports, ESPN’s Flora Kelly and Austin Karp of Sports Business Daily
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Episode 117 of the Sports Media Podcast with Richard Deitsch features three guests as part of a roundtable. The guests are: Michael Mulvihill, the head of strategy and analytics and an executive vice president for Fox Sports; Flora Kelly, the senior director of Strategic and Brand Insights at ESPN and Austin Karp, the Managing Editor/Digital at Spo…
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Flashiest Receivers pt.2: Nik Lewis & Ken-Yon Rambo
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Continuing the theme of last week's interview with Bombers receivers Milt Stegall & Robert Gordon, this week Donnovan speaks with Nik Lewis and Ken-Yon Rambo - Stampeders receivers responsible for such TD celebrations as 'The Bobsled' and 'The Bike'.By Canadian Football League