Do you have moments in your business or personal life when you simply can’t afford to bore your audience? What can we do to hold their undivided attention when it really matters? To find out, Adam Morgan, founder of eatbigfish, speaks to fascinating people who excel at engaging their audience – be they distracted social scrollers, bored schoolchildren or cynical CEOs – and learns from them how we can all be much more interesting. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Twenty years after the concept of the challenger brand was popularised, a new wave of challengers has been changing the way the categories around us think and behave. Financed by a new type of investor, harnessing emerging structural changes and new ways to build relationships with their consumers, they have generated an enormous energy and excitement in their marketing and business community. In this six-part podcast series, hear from PHD, eatbigfish and a selection of brand guests as they ...
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Episode 13: Lessons, Frameworks, Power and Sex (a look back at Season 1)
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In this bonus episode Adam summarises the key themes and learnings across all the guests from the first season, to make it useful and usable for you. He breaks his conclusions into five sections: 1. The Cost of Dull and the Value of Interesting 2. The Four Kinds of Dull 3. Finding the right way to be interesting for you 4. Common themes and key ide…
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Episode 12: Giving up the gold (with Nick Reed)
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Named ‘one of the most 10 influential Brits in Hollywood’ by The Sunday Times, Nick Reed has been a successful Hollywood agent, won an Oscar for a documentary called ‘The Lady in Number 6’, and co-founded the most successful viral content company in the US. In this episode, Nick discusses with Adam what makes something not just more interesting, bu…
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Episode 11: The third American art form (with Russell Davies)
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Powerpoint has become the poster child of Dull – can even this most maligned of mediums really be a tool to be more interesting? Russell Davies not only believes it can, but that it’s the third American art form, along with jazz and hip hop – but only if we think of it and use it in a very different way. It seems such a symbolic flip for the cliché…
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Episode 10: Making the magic more probable (with Russell Davies)
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One of the most stimulating speakers in brands and communications, Russell has been thinking about what it means to be interesting for over 20 years. In his new book Do Interesting – Notice. Collect. Share. Russell has codified the practice he’s used to make the world more interesting to him, and to make himself better positioned to bring interest …
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Episode 9: Lashing the world with story (with John Yorke)
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While storytelling isn’t the automatic answer to every kind of ‘dull’, if we’re going to learn how to tell more interesting stories we should learn from the best. John Yorke founded the BBC Studio Writer’s Academy after a career that included being Head of Channel4 Drama and Controller of BBC Drama Production, working on and producing some of the w…
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Episode 8: The interesting Squiggle and the long ‘Aha’ (with Helen Tupper and Sarah Ellis)
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The Squiggly Careers podcast has been hugely influential and useful for anyone interested in Career Development community. In this episode I talk to Sarah Ellis and Helen Tupper, the brilliant pair behind the podcast, the two bestselling books that have come out of it – Squiggly Careers and You Coach You – and the company they have founded, Amazing…
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Episode 7: Two thousand years more interesting (with Professor Arlene Holmes-Henderson)
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In this episode we talk to Professor Arlene Holmes-Henderson, Professor of Classics Education and Public Policy at Durham University, about her fierce belief in the enduring relevance of classical rhetoric to today’s world, and why its value in helping disadvantaged children find their voice in a more engaging way is fundamental to how schools need…
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Episode 6: How to win a peacock show (with Gemma Parkinson)
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This is a podcast for people who can’t afford to bore their audience. And in this episode we talk to Gemma Parkinson, a Global Marketing and Business Director at Moet Hennessy, about how to elevate a presentation into an irresistible performance when you really need to carry an audience with you. A fresh, energetic and charismatic thinker, Gemma sh…
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Episode 5: On Saturn it’s raining diamonds (with Addison Brown)
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How can we be interesting enough to stick in our audiences’ long-term memory? In this episode, Adam speaks to Addison Brown, the science teacher who was the star of a recent Department for Education recruitment film. They discuss the four key principles that underpin success in every lesson – from cognitive load to dual coding – and how shorter pup…
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Episode 4: The secret of Elmo’s success (with Norman Stiles)
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In this episode, Adam talks with Norman Stiles, for 20 years the Head Writer on Sesame Street, about the pioneering pairing of entertainers and educators that changed the educational life of a generation. And how success lay in a very simple ambition that has fascinating implications for us all. Sesame Street made something possible that people tho…
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Episode 3: Who Are You Really? (with Ross Buchanan)
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In this episode, Adam talks to national radio presenter Ross Buchanan (Absolute Radio, Radio X) about what it takes to be interesting for four hours with an audience you never actually see. How much is it about being more interesting in what you say and do, and how much is it about what you share of yourself? And why shouldn’t you talk about biscui…
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Episode 2: Why Your Dog is a Better Producer Than You (with Maz Farrelly)
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In this episode, Adam speaks to reality TV producer Maz Farrelly. Maz has made some of the biggest shows on 3 continents, including Britain’s Got Talent, Dancing with the Stars, Big Brother and Celebrity Apprentice – interviewing 12,000 hopefuls along the way. She now works with businesses to help them make themselves more interesting. Maz shares h…
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Episode 1: The Cost of Dull in Business (with Peter Field)
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In this opening episode, Adam discusses a new analysis that reveals the real financial cost to a business of being dull with Marketing Effectiveness expert Peter Field. Exactly how much more expensive is it to run dull communications than engaging ones? And what can we learn from people who can’t afford to bore their audiences? Adam and Peter's con…
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** EPISODES 1 & 2 - TUESDAY 26TH SEPTEMBER ** Do you have moments in your business or personal life when you simply can’t afford to bore your audience? What can we do to hold their undivided attention when it really matters? To find out, Adam Morgan, founder of eatbigfish, speaks to fascinating people who excel at engaging their audience – be they …
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7: How to become a community-powered challenger
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In this spin-off episode, the Overthrow II podcast series concludes with a conversation between guests Harold Klaje, EVP and President of Advertising at Reddit; Rebecca Burchnall, Managing Partner at PHD UK; and host Adam Morgan, Co-founder of eatbigfish, as they discuss the power of community and how challengers – even those as large as Reddit and…
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6: How Mailchimp builds real and human connections in B2B
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In the sixth episode, Mailchimp’s Chief Marketing Officer Tom Klein joins Adam Morgan, Co-founder of eatbigfish, and Olivia Douglas, Global Business Lead at PHD US, to reflect on how and why Mailchimp built such human connections with its customers in a B2B space and how their challenger spirit has fuelled Mailchimp’s internal ethos and external su…
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5: Building a challenger mindset in a large organisation
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In the fifth episode, host and founder of eatbigfish Adam Morgan speaks to Lisa Kirkbright, Communications Manager of ŠKODA UK, and David White, Strategy Director at PHD UK, about challenging gender inequality in the world of cycling and what we can learn about being a challenger in a large organisation.…
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In the fourth episode of PHD and eatbigfish’s podcast series, host and founder of eatbigfish Adam Morgan speaks with Daniel Ordóñez, Chief Growth Officer at Danone, and Avin Narasimhan, Head of Communications Planning at PHD US, on what a challenger mindset means for legacy brands and why challenger thinking isn’t necessarily about being small or n…
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In the third episode of PHD and eatbigfish’s podcast series Overthrow II: Challenger strategies for a new era, Ernesto Schmitt, Co-founder of VC fund The Craftory, joins Adam Morgan, Co-founder of eatbigfish, and Rohan Tambyrajah, Chief Strategy Officer at PHD Global Business, to discuss the role of cause for both challenger brands and venture capi…
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2: How does a brand reclaim its challenger status?
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In the second episode of PHD and eatbigfish’s podcast series Overthrow II: Challenger strategies for a new era, host and founder of eatbigfish Adam Morgan speaks with Kerry Chilvers, Brands Director at Direct Line, and Hugh Cameron, Chairman at PHD UK, on how a brand which has lost its challenger edge in a changing category can revitalise its chall…
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1: The changing landscape for challenger brands
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Adam Morgan, founder of eatbigfish, and Malcolm Devoy, Chief Strategy Officer at PHD EMEA, join forces once again to introduce the podcast spin-off of their publication ‘Overthrow II – 10 strategies from the new wave of challengers’ to discuss how the media landscape has changed for brands, what this means for category behaviours, and where the opp…
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