Listen in on interviews with world-renowned experts exploring the forces in history that shaped the world both then, and now. The topics we explore vary from whaling, to the Roman games, but they always touch on the intersection between riches and power, particularly in business and economic history.
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Science 4-Hire is now Psych Tech @ Work! - a podcast about safe innovation at the intersection of psychological science, technology, and the future of work. Psych Tech @ Work promotes safe technological innovation and human/machine partnerships as an essential force in creating equilibrium and between psychology and commerce. Maintaining this balance in a time of unprecedented change is essential for ensuring that the future of work is ethical, positive, and prosperous. Creating such a futur ...
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Imagine a world before North Face, Patagonia, or any other cold-weather gear. A world in which you had to rely only on what you could find in nature. It was in that world that industrial-scale hunting of seals took place because their fur provided fantastic insulation from the elements. It was also in that world that the unbelievable journey of the…
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Skills Validation & the Future of Skills Based Hiring
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“The challenge isn’t just identifying skills, but ensuring the data is validated, diverse, and reflective of real-world performance." Greg Gasperin Summary: My guest for this episode is Greg Gasperin, CEO and Co-Founder of Merify, a skills data verification platform. Greg and I discuss the future of skills-based hiring, which we both agree requires…
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Balancing Responsible Innovation & AI Based People Systems: w/Eric Sydell, co-founder of Vero AI
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"It's about selling objectivity, not just science. We need to make sense of the vast data around us to help businesses make better decisions." -Eric Sydell Summary: In this episode of "Psych Tech @ Work," my long time friend Eric Sydell, IO psychologist, genius, and co-founder of Vero AI, joins me to discuss the transformative potential of AI in th…
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Don’t believe the hype about Neurodiversity/Neurodivergence: Nancy Doyle sets the record straight
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"It's important to understand that disability is contextual. One can be both enabled and disabled by their neurodivergence depending on the environment and the task at hand."-Nancy Doyle "The way we diagnose and support neurodivergence needs to evolve. We're still using outdated models that don't consider the full spectrum of human cognitive divers…
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How to Kick off an Exciting Career in IO Psychology with Brando and Joe
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"It’s important to be a sponge when you're early in your career. Pick up pieces of what everybody else is doing that looks like it's working, and if it doesn't work, then you learn and grow from it." Brandon Sulzberg "Having an open mind early in your career can lead you to discover new interests and opportunities you might have otherwise overlooke…
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Organizational Justice Theory and Fairness in the Workplace. With Stephen Gilliland
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"Organizational justice is about ensuring that every individual feels they are treated fairly and with respect in all aspects of their work. It’s not just about the outcomes they receive, but how those outcomes are decided and communicated. Fair processes and respectful treatment are fundamental to maintaining trust and equity within any organizati…
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Lie Detection w. Ken Alder of Northwestern
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Imagine a world in which you can’t lie because, if you do, you will be found out 100% of the time. We obviously don’t live in this world, but we’ve built machines in an attempt to get closer to that reality. So-called lie detectors—a staple of police procedural dramas—are an attempt to suss out the truth of a testimony using science. But is that sc…
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AI, Skills based hiring, digital transformation and the future of recruiting: With Matt Alder
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"Skills-based hiring isn't just removing a degree requirement from a job description. It takes a long time and serious commitment to see it through." -Matt Alder Summary: My guest for this episode is Matt Alder, podcaster, author, consultant and futurist This is an exciting episode because it includes the first ever episode of The Take it or Leave …
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The Ski Business w. Stuart Winchester
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Imagine a world in which you love skiing, but the only way to shush down the mountain is to trudge to the top of the mountain with the skis strapped to your back. There are no lift lines, sure, but each run requires an arduous effort to make happen. Conversely, imagine a world in which ski lifts are abundant, but a lift ticket doesn’t cost north of…
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EEOC Commissioner Keith Sonderling’s Take on Government Regulation in the Age of AI
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"From the EEOC's perspective, whether an employment action, employment decision is made by a human or an algorithm, liability is going to be the same for those companies." "AI tools really have the ability to prevent discrimination, but at the same time, they have the ability to discriminate more than any one individual human being." -EEOC Commissi…
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How Psychology, HR Technology, and Investment are Shaping the Future of Work
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"Everything really starts with the customer. It's not just about having a technology, but understanding the problem you're solving." -George LaRoque Summary: In this episode, George LaRocque, a leading HR technology analyst, investor and the founder of Work Tech- the #1 source of truth around investment and growth in the HR Tech market, joins me to…
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The Journey from IO Psychologist to HR Leader: Mastering the Business of People
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In this episode I welcome JP Elliot, HR and Talent Executive & Host of the Future of HR Podcast. JP Elliott is a forward-thinking global human resources executive with extensive experience implementing human capital initiatives that drive business results, improve organizational performance, and elevate company culture. He is a trusted business par…
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The Cold War w. Fritz Bartel of Texas A&M
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Why did the Cold War end? Every high schooler in the country would likely answer that with some reference to the steely-eyed resolve of John F. Kennedy, or America's overwhelming economic power. But Professor Fritz Bartel of Texas A&M University has a compelling--and very surprising--new theory he put forth in his recent book The Triumph of Broken …
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The psychological impact of tech in the workplace: A simple matter of trust
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Quote: We talk about the effect of technology on everything, but ultimately, it's the people that matter." This theme has shown up repeatedly, emphasizing that technology doesn't have uniform effects; we have to consider the psychology of implementation, how it's used, and its context. Summary: In a thought-provoking episode of "People, Science, …
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Uber & Lyft are Leaving Minneapolis - Short
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The two largest ride share providers in the United States, Uber and Lyft, have recently said that they will be exiting Minneapolis in May. Minneapolis' city council has passed into law a requirement that the ride share providers pay a (in the companies' view) high minimum hourly wage to their riders. The companies say the wage is unsustainable. The…
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Crafting the Future of Ethical AI in the Workplace with Matt Scherer
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"Legislation... has not kept up with the pace of technological advancements, posing significant challenges for ensuring fairness in AI-driven hiring processes." -Matt Scherer Summary: In this episode of "Science 4-Hire," I welcome Matt Scherer, Senior Policy Counsel for Workers' Rights at the Center for Democracy in Technology, a non-profit based i…
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Chatbots & Generative AI in Recruitment: A Deep Dive with Martyn Redstone of pplbots
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In this episode of Science 4-Hire, I welcome my new friend Martyn Redstone, founder of pplbots and a pioneering force in the intersection of conversational AI and recruitment technology. We have a fun and meaningful conversation about the evolution of chatbots and the role of generative AI in the recruitment process. With over two decades in techno…
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Imagine a war ravaging your home and everything you know. But this isn’t a normal war, it is, in the eyes of the aggressor, a “small war.” The aggressor perhaps calls it a “peacekeeping mission.” From your perspective, this doesn’t matter one bit. Death is death and violence is violence. Throughout modern history, imperial powers have waged so-call…
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Ethics by Design: Responsible AI is Blueprint, not a Band-aid
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"This AI piece and all the ethics and governance and everything that goes around that... it really warrants a dedicated role and some specific communities focused on AI ethics and risks." Bob Pulver: Founder of Cognitive Path Summary: My guest for this episode is Bob Pulver, a seasoned expert in the intersection of artificial intelligence and talen…
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LLAMA, LLAMA- How to Avoid Generative AI Drama!
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“So most of the world is made up of full stack application developers who build software for anything from HRIS to accounting, to supply chain, and what have you? For those people to easily add generative AI capabilities into their applications while remaining in compliance with the security, trust, and safety requirements that enterprises have, we…
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Talent Acquisition Excellence - A Reality Check
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"There is no one way to do recruitment right, there are many ways to do it right but even more ways to do it badly." -Bas van de Haterd "The reality is that we're in an era of experimentation. We have to experiment continuously." -Kevin Wheeler Summary: In this episode of Science 4-Hire I welcome two old friends, distinguished Science 4-Hire alumni…
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Imagine a world in which your elected leaders may not be removed from office. You go to the polls, you vote, and for whichever leader wins the election, they are handed a mandate and a golden ticket to pilfer the country in whatever way they see fit. In the United States and many other democracies around the globe, even the holder of the highest el…
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Hired by a Hologram? The future of talent evaluation will be wild. With Georgi Yankov, Principal Research Scientist at DDI
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“I really see the technology as a driver of user friendliness of assessment in the future and because people don't have time anymore to sit down for many hours and do writing samples and take personality tests of 300-500 questions.” -Georgi Yankov Summary: In this forward-looking episode of Science 4-Hire, I welcome Georgi Jankov, a fellow IO psych…
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Mastering Content Marketing in the AI Era: What every professional needs to know!
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Mary Ellen Slayter: "AI is a race to the middle. Generative AI content is, by my definition, mediocre." In this episode I take a bit of a departure from the world of hiring to talk with my long time friend, Mary Ellen Slayter, the founder of Reputation Capital, a top notch digital content marketing firm. Don’t be afraid of the fact that we do not t…
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Vegemite, Stroopwafles, and AI based assessments: New sensation, or acquired taste?
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"Personnel selection is shaking on its foundations. Lots of the assessments that we have, that we do, suddenly we're not quite sure if they're still as effective.” “I feel as if now it's starting to become the responsibility of organizations who are hiring to make sure that people are using it (Chat GPT) in the same way so that that they can clearl…
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Imagine a world in which time is not kept by a single authority. If you drive from your hometown to one a few hours away, noon is slightly different and tied to the local experience of when the sun peaks. Time would be less precise, and more driven by the moon, the stars, the sun, and even the behavior of animals. We all live in a world in which ti…
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Building Digital Coaches Using AI and Psychology: With Dr. Matt Barney
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“When GPT 3.5 came out. I was like, oh my gosh, we don't need to train the AI anymore! We just need to prime it. It's so similar to psychology! Instead of programming and language, we'd do it in English.” In this episode of Science 4-Hire, I chew the digital fat with Dr. Matt Barney, founder and CEO of XLNC, a company that is using AI to create the…
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Spirits in the empirical world: The plight of human job seekers in the age of AI
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"As a journalist, I've seen the many facets of AI in hiring – it's not just about the technology, but about the people it affects." - Hilke Schellman In this revealing episode of Science 4-Hire, Dr. Charles Handler welcomes Hilke Schulman for a captivating conversation on AI in hiring processes and its toll on the rights and psyche of job seekers. …
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Hey You Got Your Linguistics in My IO Psychology! With Karin Golde, Ph.D.- Founder of West Valley AI
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“When you're a linguist, especially a syntactician, when you look at language, it's kind of different from how other people look at language. You kind of see the structures under it, kind of have this x-ray vision, right, of of what's going on under the hood.” - Karin Golde, Founder of West Valley AI. In this awesome and inspiring episode of Scienc…
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"Making People Smarter about People”: The role of technology and ethics in building world class hiring systems
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"We bring data and insights right from that data to our decision-makers... that's how we make people smarter about people." - Christina Norris Watts This episode offers a unique perspective on balancing innovation with ethics in the rapidly changing world of HR technology. My co-pilot for this journey is Christina Norris Watts, Head of Assessment a…
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Join us for a discussion with a two-time Pulitzer Prize finalist. Imagine living in a country riven by political discord and strife. One party works to steal the election from the other. Politicians who are, in the eyes of their opposition, wholly unfit for office are running for and winning some of the highest elected positions in the country. Thi…
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Setting people analytics free! With Cole Napper VP of People Analytics at Orgnostic, and Host of the Directionally Correct Podcast
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People analytics is not just for psychologists anymore! "I think that not only will people analytics be the decision maker themselves. In the future, I actually think people analytics will be what HR is." –Cole Napper on People Analytics My guest this week is Cole Napper, IO psychologist extraordinaire, People analytics thought leader, and inspirat…
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The Future Awaits! Navigating Global AI Ethics and Governance with Arnoud Engelfriet
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We are all in this together! Don’t miss the chance to expand your mind with a global perspective on issues that will help define the future of global policy work, commerce, and life in general. In this intriguing episode of "Science 4-Hire," I welcome Arnoud Engelfriet from the Netherlands to discuss AI ethics and governance, particularly in the co…
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The People Analytics Software Market: Anyone Can Make A List. It Takes Expertise to Give it Life! - With Stacia Sherman Garr
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Full disclosure: This episode was recorded before our break. In the normal world, not much would have changed in 5 months. But in the new reality of Generative AI- changes have occurred since we recorded this episode. They do not make the research discussed any less valuable, because the trends were identified- but the execution of them is ever evo…
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I Interviewed ChatGPT About the Future of Hiring and the Results are Profound and Hilarious
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And now for something completely different. My guest for this enlightening episode of Science 4-Hire, is none other than the biggest superstar of the AI world, the LLM known as ChatGPT. In this fun and educational interview I uncork ChatGPT’s personality as a witty, quirky, and extremely knowledgeable guest. Our amazing conversation delves into the…
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Environmental Warfare w. Emmanuel Kreike of Princeton
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Imagine a world in which your life is turned upside down by war…. Not just war, but total war. The very land on which you live is destroyed and you are forced to flee, leaving everything behind. Beyond that, the very place you live in is destroyed. Food is scarce, shelter is difficult to find, and fear pervades your life. Though total war is most a…
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The Constitution w. Jonathan Gienapp of Stanford
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Imagine living in a country without a written constitution. A country in which laws are subject to whimsy or a powerful person’s interpretation and there is no recourse for an individual who does not like or agree with the outcome of various legal decisions. In the United States, we live in a system subject to a written constitution. The document i…
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Imagine traveling across the world. But not on an airplane, not by car, but on your own two feet and on the backs of animals. Now, imagine doing that for two decades. Marco Polo was a Venetian merchant whose travels gained notoriety in his time and whose name survives across the millennia. There is far, far more to the man than just his name. He tr…
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Imagine, or perhaps think back, to a Europe in which each country had a different currency. In Germany you bought things with the Deutschmark, but cross the border into France and you’d have to use the French franc, and further still in Spain you’d be buying things with Spanish peseta. Currencies are omnipresent in the modern day and permeate comme…
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GPT and talent assessment: Cheat code or power up? With Neil Morelli
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Join me, Dr. Charles Handler, for the latest episode of Science 4-Hire as I engage in a fascinating conversation with Neil Morelli, lead IO psychologist at Codility, a global provider of coding assessments. Our discussion centers around LLMs, such as GPT, and the dangers they present to test security and honesty when taking assessments. We agree th…
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The Psychology of HR Technology: The Human Touch Will Define the Future of Work With Steve Hunt
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In the latest episode of Science 4-Hire, I had a fascinating conversation with Steve Hunt, Chief Expert of Technology & Work at SAP. Together, we discussed Steve’s latest book, Talent Techtonics, which provides a framework for our conversation. As he notes... “I wanted to talk about how work is changing, but not just trends like how hybrid work, bu…
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Psychology, technology, business, and the future come together at SIOP 2023 With Fred Oswald
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In the latest episode of Science 4-Hire, I have a refreshing and relaxing conversation with Fred Oswald, an esteemed industrial-organizational psychologist and professor at Rice University. Fred is extremely active in the area of AI ethics and governance, especially with regards to hiring. Fred has served on many committees addressing these issues …
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James Watt w. David Miller of UNSW Australia
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Imagine a world in which there are no machines. If you need to move something heavy, get from place to place, or pump water, you have limited options including: human power, animal power, and (if you are close to a suitable river) river power. Thanks in large part to Scottish inventor James Watt, the Industrial Revolution was a time of unprecedente…
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Imperialism in Africa w. Steven Press of Stanford
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Imagine a world in which your country is purchased by a foreigner. Not taken over by a foreign country, mind you, but rather bought and paid for via a purchase contract. While there are many instances of one country invading or occupying another throughout history, the late 1800s saw European powers come to own—at least in their eyes—nearly the ent…
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Building a Bridge to the Future of Skills Based Talent Programs. With Christy Smith and Lauren Robertson
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On today's episode of Science 4-Hire, I welcome Christy Smith and Lauren Robertson for an enlightened discussion about the importance of skills identification and assessment on the future of talent acquisition and development. Christy is the central market leader for career products at Mercer, supporting the commercial strategy for Mercer's skills …
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A patent grants its owner “the right to exclude others from making, using, offering for sale, or selling” an invention for a specified period of time in return for disclosing the invention to the public. Patents are a foundational piece of intellectual property rights both in the United States and worldwide, and they are both celebrated and critici…
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Dissecting jobs via automation: Where do we go from here? With Collin Hawkes
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My guest for this episode is Collin Hawkes, Senior Lead I/O Psychologist at Lumen Technologies, an internet services company whose mission is to connect people with technology. Join us today for an interesting conversation that focuses on the use of AI and machine learning to break jobs into a variety of elements, a process also known as “Job Analy…
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AI hiring legislation- What you need to know! With Richard Landers & Mark Girouard
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In this episode I welcome two different but complimentary perspectives on the legal aspects of employment testing that are happening in an ambiguous and seemingly ever-changing environment. While the conversation is oriented towards the ever controversial and somewhat frustrating NYC algorithmic hiring law that has recently gone into effect (?), it…
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Imagine living with the fear of catching a disease that could paralyze you for the rest of your life. Generations of people in the United States lived with the fear of polio, and worldwide people still contend with that fear today. The development of the polio vaccine is one of the most renowned achievements in modern medicine, and thanks to its de…
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Will ChatGPT steal our humanity and our jobs? With Dr. Tomas Chamorro-Premuzic
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My guest for this episode is Dr. Tomas Chamorro-Premuzic. Besides his role as the Chief Innovation Officer at Manpower Group, Dr. Tomas is a world-renowned IO psychologist, educator, entrepreneur and author. He joins me today to discuss his new book, I, Human: AI, Automation, and the Quest to Reclaim What Makes Us Unique. We use the big picture pri…
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