Welcome to Annie's Pink Chair Podcast With Annie Lobert. Annie is a wife to Oz Fox (original founding member of rock band Stryper, speaker, author (of Fallen), entrepreneur, thought leader, advocate for the abused, nonprofit founder and CEO, and a survivor of more than a decade of sex trafficking. Annie moved into full time advocacy using her personal experience as a guide and started mentoring and helping women who were still in and formerly in the sex industry. This podcast features interv ...
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Episode 182 - From Prison to Purpose. Special Guest: Jon Ponder (Part 1)
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In this powerful episode, Annie sits down with Jon Ponder, Founder of Hope for Prisoners, who shares his remarkable journey from the streets to spiritual freedom. Growing up in Brooklyn, New York, Jon was raised by a single mother and succumbed to gang life, addiction and criminal activity at a young age. After a life of chaos and destruction, incl…
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Episode 181 - Breaking Chains of Confusion. Special Guest: Pastor Bill Walker (Part 3)
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In Part 3 of this episode, Annie and Pastor Bill Walker discuss how the Church can support those wrestling with same-sex attraction, emphasizing that grace AND truth are essential. Pastor Bill shares powerful stories, including one about a pastor who discipled a lesbian couple for two years before helping them take steps toward transformation. He s…
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Episode 180 - Breaking Chains of Confusion. Special Guest: Pastor Bill Walker (Part 2)
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In Part 2 of this episode, Pastor Bill Walker continues his deeply personal testimony, sharing how he and his sister sought out answers about Jesus from his former boyfriend’s mother. Convicted by her words, Bill surrendered his life to Christ in a powerful moment of repentance. Yet, despite his newfound faith, Bill describes the ongoing struggle h…
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Episode 179 - Breaking Chains of Confusion. Special Guest: Pastor Bill Walker (Part 1)
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In Part 1 of this episode, Annie sits down with Pastor Bill Walker of The Four Seasons Church in Las Vegas. He shares his personal journey of navigating confusion, faith and identity. Raised in a seemingly idyllic home in Western Pennsylvania, Bill had a wholesome upbringing, yet felt a disconnect with his father — laying the foundation for struggl…
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In Part 2 of this episode, Annie delves deeper into the topic of victim blaming, sharing personal experiences and highlighting how complex trauma from prior abuse can lead to victimization. She addresses the harmful assumptions made about promiscuous behavior, such as wearing revealing clothing, and how these misconceptions contribute to blaming vi…
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In this episode, Annie discusses the painful reality of victim blaming and how it has affected her life. From being molested as a child, bullied at school, assaulted as a teen and trafficked as a young woman, Annie knows firsthand the fear and shame that keep victims silent. She explores how victim blaming manifests, making survivors feel at fault …
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Episode 176 - The Gift of Being Vulnerable. Special Guest: Tim Ross (Part 3)
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In this episode, Annie and Pastor/Podcast Host Tim Ross discuss the hypocrisy within some churches, where women like Annie — a trafficking survivor — are often unwelcome. They explore how broken men feed the porn industry and trafficking, and how women are unfairly blamed for men’s lust. Tim shares a moving story of ministering to a trafficked woma…
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Episode 175 - The Gift of Being Vulnerable. Special Guest: Tim Ross (Part 2)
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In Part 2 of this episode, Annie continues her conversation with Upset the World podcast host and international speaker Tim Ross. Tim shares a powerful story of being freed from a past burden when he was able to be real about it with his family. He and Annie also discuss how relatable the people of the Bible are, the importance of the Holy Spirit’s…
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Episode 174 - The Gift of Being Vulnerable. Special Guest: Tim Ross (Part 1)
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In this episode, Annie talks with Tim Ross, international speaker and host of Upset the World podcast. He says he creates spaces to give people the gift of being vulnerable. Tim shares how he went from a young man mocking Christians at his parents’ church to surrendering his life to God after an encounter with the Holy Spirit. He also discusses a p…
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Episode 173 - God's Design for Love and Passion. Special Guests: Les and Joyce Carlsen (Part 3)
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In the conclusion of this episode, guests Les and Joyce Carlsen discuss how their relationship has evolved with age. They explore the depth of love beyond physical attraction and emphasize avoiding selfishness. The couple also shares insights on maintaining intimacy and the importance of forgiveness. Don’t miss their advice and a powerful prayer fo…
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Episode 172 - God's Design for Love and Passion. Special Guests: Les and Joyce Carlsen (Part 2)
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In this heartwarming episode, Annie continues her conversation with Les and Joyce Carlsen, performers who have been together for 54 years. They share their journey of confronting issues in their relationship, emphasizing the importance of open communication and prioritizing each other. Les and Joyce candidly discuss the challenges they faced when t…
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Episode 171 - God's Design for Love and Passion. Special Guests: Les and Joyce Carlsen (Part 1)
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In part one of this discussion, Annie Lobert sits down with her good friends and singer/songwriters Les and Joyce Carlsen. They share the story of how they met in the Broadway production of Hair and are now celebrating 50 years of marriage. Les and Joyce agree that when God intervened, their lives were never the same. They discuss how God has desig…
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Episode 170 - Royalty Up Close and Personal. Special Guest: Princess Anne Marie Thor Nelsen (Part 3)
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Join Annie for the conclusion of her enlightening discussion with Princess Anne Marie Thor Nelsen. Discover the lineage of this princess, the way boundary lines in Europe tie to past conflicts and wars, and parallels to the divisions caused by differing religions. She emphasizes keeping Christ at the center of all aspects of life — faith, family an…
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Episode 169 - Royalty Up Close and Personal. Special Guest: Princess Anne Marie Thor Nelsen (Part 2)
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In Part 2 of this captivating series, Princess Anne Marie — related to the royal families of Denmark and the Netherlands — shares more intimate details about her unique upbringing and duties. She describes the elaborate preparation required for royal attire, a meticulously scheduled life and proper princess etiquette. She also offers an inside look…
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Episode 168 - Royalty Up Close and Personal. Special Guest: Princess Anne Marie Thor Nelsen (Part 1)
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In this enchanting episode, Annie sits down with Princess Anne Marie — of Danish and Dutch royal descent — whose aunt and namesake is married to the King of Greece. If you love royal lore, you’ll enjoy this conversation. Anne Marie discusses the challenges of royal life, where decisions are often made for you, and the importance of always being kin…
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Episode 167 - The Real You: Finding Purpose in Pain. Special Guest Terry Arnold (Part 2)
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In Part 2 of this episode, Annie Lobert continues her conversation with TV producer Terry Arnold about her challenging journey through multiple abusive marriages and early life experiences. She shares her time as a go-go dancer and a harrowing escape from her ex-husband's threats. Now also a health and wellness coach, Terry's message of resilience …
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Episode 166 - The Real You: Finding Purpose in Pain. Special Guest: Terry Arnold (Part 1)
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In this heartfelt episode, TV producer Terry Arnold shares her journey from a tumultuous childhood to finding strength and purpose. Raised by a nanny while her father built a business, Terry faced childhood abuse, complex trauma and family struggles. Despite these challenges, she found solace in faith and love. Hear Part 1 of her powerful story of …
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Episode 165 - Emotional Blackmail: Recognizing What Love Is — and Isn’t (Part 2)
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In Part 2 of this insightful episode, Annie delves deeper into the complex dynamics of love and emotional abuse. Building on her discussions from Part 1, she continues to share wisdom from Scripture and her personal experiences, helping listeners understand the true essence of love. Annie sheds light on the subtle signs of emotional abuse and provi…
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Episode 164 - Emotional Blackmail: Recognizing What Love Is — and Isn’t (Part 1)
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In Part 1 of this episode, Annie talks about love, sharing from Scripture and her own experiences to demonstrate what it should look like — and what it shouldn’t. She focuses on emotional abuse — also known as emotional blackmail — and how to recognize an unhealthy relationship. Annie also explains how knowing your worth to God makes ALL the differ…
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Episode 163 - Dispatching Hope. Special Guest: Tina DeCola (Part 3)
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Join us for the conclusion of our three-part episode with Tina DeCola, retired Las Vegas emergency dispatcher. In this gripping installment, Tina recounts some of her experiences surrounding the tragic events of October 1, 2017 — the night of the deadliest mass shooting in modern U.S. history. She shares invaluable insights on crisis response and t…
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Episode 162 - Dispatching Hope. Special Guest: Tina DeCola (Part 2)
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In Part 2 of this episode, Annie continues her candid conversation with retired Las Vegas Fire and Rescue dispatcher Tina DeCola about life in an emergency setting. From blood-curdling screams to moments of calm in chaos, Tina shares her experiences — including the toll it took on her health and how she’s improving training for others. They address…
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Episode 161 - Dispatching Hope. Special Guest: Tina DeCola (Part 1)
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Join Annie as she sits down with Tina DeCola, a frontline first-responder for over 20 years with Las Vegas Fire and Rescue Dispatch. Tina shares her journey and discusses her work with the Denise Amber Lee Foundation, aiding 911 professionals in coping with the emotional toll of their jobs. Tune in as Tina delves into her faith amid personal strugg…
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Episode 160 - Lights, Camera, Faith! Special Guest: Brian Chrisagis (Part 2)
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In the emotionally charged Part 2 of Annie's Pink Chair with guest Brian Chrisagis, he opens up about the tragic loss of his twin brother. From the heart-wrenching details of his passing to the depths of grief and despair, Brian shares his raw journey of grappling with guilt, anger and suicidal thoughts. Join us as he navigates through the darkest …
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Episode 159 - Lights, Camera, Faith! Special Guest: Brian Chrisagis (Part 1)
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In Part 1 of this episode, Annie is joined by friend, Brian Chrisagis, who shares his story of overcoming insurmountable odds along with his twin brother. From their miraculous healing after being born three months premature to their journey ministering to Hollywood icons, his story is one of resilience and divine intervention. He also shares a mes…
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Episode 158 - Real Talk on Dealing with Trials
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Are you going through a tough time? Annie can relate! In Part 2 of this episode on encouragement, she shares from God’s Word how to put suffering in perspective — and build up your faith. Learn to lean on His Truth and flex that faith muscle today! For more encouraging content, follow Annie at instagram.com/annielobert, facebook.com/annielobert and…
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Episode 157 - Real Talk on Healing and Forgiveness
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Join Annie as she courageously shares her journey from the depths of the sex industry to a life of purpose and redemption. Reflecting on her tumultuous past, Annie explores the roots of her involvement and sheds light on the inner-workings of the industry. She also reveals the miraculous ways God provided for her fledgling ministry. From helping he…
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Episode 156 - From Call Girl to Called Girl. Special Guest: Kelli Keglovitz (Part 4)
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In Part 4 of this episode, trafficking survivors Annie Lobert and Kelli Keglovitz discuss the foundation for their faith and renewal. Drawing from the story of Jonah and other biblical passages, they explore the transformative power of calling out to God and renewing the mind. Reflecting on their journey, they advocate for perseverance and surrende…
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Episode 155 - From Call Girl to Called Girl. Special Guest: Kelli Keglovitz (Part 3)
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In Part 3 of this episode, Annie again sits down with her friend and fellow trafficking survivor Kelli Keglovitz for a deeply personal exploration of faith and redemption. Despite years of friendship, Kelli once shunned Annie's talk of Jesus. Through harrowing trials including loss, addiction and desperation, Kelli shares her journey from rock bott…
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Episode 154 - From Call Girl to Called Girl. Special Guest: Kelli Keglovitz (Part 2)
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Annie continues her conversation with longtime friend and women’s ministry leader Kelli Keglovitz. These trafficking survivors talk about the pimp game, heartbreak, loss and broken trust. They also discuss the various ways girls and young women are selling themselves today, without even knowing it, and that everyone can find forgiveness. Kelli hint…
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Episode 153 - From Call Girl to Called Girl. Special Guest: Kelli Keglovitz (Part 1)
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In this episode, Annie interviews Women's Ministry Leader Kelli Keglovitz, her cherished friend since they were teens. They used to run the Las Vegas streets together, going on calls for their traffickers. Now they help other survivors get out of darkness and into God's magnificent light. Through the toughest times, Kelli stood by Annie's side, and…
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Episode 152 - OnlyFans — Digital Connection or Digital Exploitation?
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In this important episode, Annie exposes internet content subscription service OnlyFans for what it is — a doorway to prostitution. Annie shows a heart of understanding for the content creators and why many feel it's their only choice. But it's not! As Annie explores frequently asked questions about OnlyFans, she reminds listeners that where there …
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Episode 151 - Body Counts & Relationship Redemption. Special Guest: Oz Fox (Part 3)
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In the compelling conclusion of this episode, Annie talks more with her husband and Stryper guitarist, Oz Fox, about her promiscuous past when she was controlled by traffickers. Oz explains what attracted him to her, noting the ways God seemed to be opening doors to a deeper relationship. They share from scripture how you can be free from your mist…
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Episode 150 - Body Counts & Relationship Redemption. Special Guest: Oz Fox (Part 2)
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In the second part of this special episode, Annie welcomes back Oz Fox, her husband and the guitarist for legendary Christian metal band Stryper. They discuss the issue of promiscuity and how their relationship has evolved after 15 years of marriage. Even though both Annie and Oz have large platforms, they say the key to a healthy relationship is n…
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Episode 149 - Body Counts & Relationship Redemption. Special Guest: Oz Fox (Part 1)
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In Part 1 of this eye-opening episode, Annie welcomes her husband of over a decade, the legendary guitarist Oz Fox from the renowned Christian metal band Stryper. The couple dives deep into Oz's riveting past, from his days of playing at iconic venues like the Whiskey and the Troubadour to his spiritual awakening and commitment to serving Jesus thr…
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Episode 148 - Revelations and Relationships. Special Guests: Emery Smith and Nurse Darla (Part 3)
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In this riveting podcast conclusion, Annie hosts Emery Smith, a former U.S. Air Force member, surgical assistant and Gaia Television host, and Darla, a seasoned nurse. Emery shares more about his experiences with extraterrestrial beings, disclosing secrets from his government service. The conversation explores the diversity of life in the universe,…
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Episode 147 - Revelations and Relationships. Special Guests: Emery Smith and Nurse Darla (Part 2)
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In Part 2 of this episode, Annie continues her fascinating conversation with Cosmic Disclosure host Emery Smith, PhD, Surgical Assistant, Biologics and Advanced Technology Expert, and Nurse Darla. They delve deep into Emery's experience in underground labs, dissecting tissues and encountering extraterrestrial beings. From mysterious crafts to shock…
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Episode 146 - Revelations and Relationships. Special Guests: Emery Smith and Nurse Darla (Part 1)
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Part 1 of this episode promises a blend of heartfelt stories and serendipity. Join Annie as she hosts friends Emery and Darla to unravel unexpected encounters and fateful meetings. They chat about everything from the quirks of friendships to intertwining faith and the cosmos. So settle in for a dose of humor, warmth and a touch of the extraordinary…
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Episode 145 - Untold Survivor Stories. Special Guest: Kelly Galindo
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In this episode, Annie dives into a compelling and important conversation with Kelly Galindo, an American actress, director and producer. She shares her passion for shedding light on the global issue of trafficking through her first directorial feature documentary, "26 Seconds." This powerful discussion delves into Kelly's experiences filming in ni…
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Episode 144 - Walking in Obedience. Special Guest: Dr. Jeff Brodsky (Part 2)
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In Part 2 of this episode, Annie continues her conversation with Dr. Jeff Brodsky, founder of Joy International, an organization dedicated to fighting trafficking. They discuss the importance of positive male figures in their lives, the impact of St. Nicholas in their childhoods and the significance of Jeff going barefoot as a symbol of his commitm…
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Episode 143 - Walking in Obedience. Special Guest: Dr. Jeff Brodsky (Part 1)
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Join Annie for Part 1 of this episode with Dr. Jeff Brodsky, Founder and CEO of Joy International — a dedicated force against child trafficking worldwide. Discover Jeff's 13-year barefoot lifestyle, sparked by a life-changing encounter in a Cambodian garbage dump. Uncover the heart-wrenching stories behind his bare soles, the health code battles an…
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Annie shares about establishing Destiny House, a haven for trafficking survivors, after finding her own path to freedom. Discover the unwavering commitment to healing and transformation through trauma counseling, self-defense training and much more. Annie's passion for advocacy, survivor leadership and dispelling stigma shines through, offering ins…
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Episode 141 - Judas Kiss: Navigating Betrayal and Forgiveness
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oin Annie — a survivor of trafficking, abuse and betrayal — as she explores the profound lessons of John 13. In this passage, Jesus faced betrayal from within his closest circle. Discover the path to forgiveness as Annie shares a personal struggle to overcome betrayal and encourages us to release those who hurt us. Tune in today for a lesson in God…
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Episode 140 - Stigma, Enigma and Charisma
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Join Annie as she shares her personal journey of overcoming stigmatization, from her father's battle with mental health issues to her own experiences with body image and societal judgment. With raw honesty, she explores the profound power of words, the consequences of marginalization and the struggle for redemption. Through candid storytelling and …
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Episode 139 - Redeemed and Offering Refuge
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In this episode, Annie shares on The Sam Sorbo Show about her harrowing journey through human trafficking. With raw honesty, she reveals the unimaginable hardships she faced, including violence and manipulation at the hands of her captors for a decade. Annie exposes the insidious nature of trafficking and tells of the divine dream that ignited her …
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Episode 138 - The Woman at the Well (Part 2)
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In Part 2 of this episode, Annie shares how God's love sustained her through the darkest times of her journey and how she relates to the woman at the well in John 4. She highlights the importance of showing kindness to those burdened by shame. Annie's story exposes the emptiness of the sex industry and calls on listeners to recognize suffering peop…
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Episode 137 - The Woman at the Well (Part 1)
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In Part 1 of this episode, Annie explores the powerful narrative of the woman at the well in John 4:5-30. Drawing parallels between her own life and the woman's experiences, Annie discusses themes of shame, dysfunction and the quest for acceptance. She reflects on childhood struggles, her own vulnerabilities and the transformative encounter between…
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In Part 2 of this episode, Annie continues to talk about the need to prepare for an influx of trafficking survivors into our churches and communities. She delves more into the Bible story of the woman caught in adultery and shares some unique insights, as a trafficking survivor herself. She explains how God called her to minister on the Las Vegas s…
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In this episode, Annie sheds light on human trafficking and exploitation, emphasizing our responsibility to help survivors. She dispels myths, and shares some of her journey from childhood trauma to the industry and eventual redemption through faith. Exploring the biblical tale of the woman caught in adultery, she challenges us to show compassion a…
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Episode 134 - From Failed Relationships to True Religion. Special Guest: Crissy Outlaw
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In this episode, Annie talks with Crissy Outlaw, a former adult film actress who left the business when she became a Christian. It was failed relationships that made her vulnerable prey to the porn industry and another heartbreak that led her to seek the Lord. Crissy now speaks out about the harmful effects of adult entertainment and has helped oth…
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Episode 133 - From Mortgage Fraud to Making Amends. Special Guest: Matthew Cox
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In this episode, Annie hosts Matthew Cox, who once topped the Secret Service's Most Wanted List for mortgage fraud. Cox unravels his astonishing journey from issuing synthetic identities to elusive bank schemes, being on the run, and how he got caught. Discover the unexpected twist of fate that led to a reduced prison sentence through a simple act …
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