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Industry Relations

Rob Hahn and Greg Robertson

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This is Industry Relations, a podcast that is at the intersection of real estate and technology from an insider’s perspective. Hosted weekly by Rob Hahn (The Notorious ROB) and Greg Robertson.
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The AIBP ASEAN B2B Growth Podcast is a series of fireside chats and interviews with business leaders in Southeast Asia focused on growing B2B businesses in the region. Each episode will feature a company which is rapidly growing their business in the region and will cover topics such as Business Strategy, Sales & Marketing, Enterprise Technology, Innovation and Financial metrics. Connect with us to learn more: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aibp/
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Open Science Talk

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A podcast about Open Science, Open Access, Open Education, Open Data, Open Software ... pretty much «open anything». Produced by the University Library at UIT The Arctic University of Norway. Founder and host of episodes 1-31: Erik Lieungh. Host from episode 32 onwards: Per Pippin Aspaas.
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Greg joins Rob from Chicago where he was attending NAR's iOi Summit. Greg gives his experience of being at the iOi Summit and discusses the pitch battle and his favorite new app, Tuesday, and its founder Cole Boyer who won "Crowd Favorite". They go on to discuss NAR's decision to appoint Nykia Wright as their new CEO and if experience in organized …
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On this episode of Industry Relations Rob and I discuss, for what seems to be the 17th time, the current rumors about the Clear Cooperation Policy. Rob recently posted on few thoughts on the subject and a few solutions to what seems to have the entire industry tied up in knots. What we soon realize is that there are no easy answers. Watch us on You…
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Guest: Surachai Hirannitichai, EVP - Digital Technology & Transformation, Big C In this episode, Khun Surachai Hirannitichai, EVP of Digital Technology at Big C, shared the company’s digital transformation journey on the AIBP B2B Growth Podcast. Big C is modernizing its retail systems by integrating legacy and new digital infrastructure, focusing o…
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Rob and Greg are back to their regularly scheduled broadcast! The episode includes discussion on Landian, the new “a la carte” brokerage launched by Josh Sitzer, yes, that Sitzer. Rob discusses his recent Sub Stack post on “Amara’s Law and Real Estate” and how we shouldn’t read too much in to how things are going with the NAR settlement. The boys a…
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Guest: Pak Yusak Kristan Soleman, President Director, Isuzu Astra Motor Indonesia In this episode, Pak Yusak Kristan Soleman, President Director of Isuzu Astra Motor Indonesia, discusses the automotive sector's digital transformation journey in Indonesia and the opportunities for growth in the region. He shares insights into Isuzu Astra's approach …
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Rob and Greg teamed up with James Dwiggins and Keith Robinson from the Real Estate Insiders Unfiltered podcast during the recent Inman Connect Las Vegas event. From the complexities of forms and commission sharing, to the pros and cons of state association forms, the guys got into it. They explored the potential for conspiracy charges in a post-set…
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Are you up to date on the recent changes in MLS rules and buyer agency agreements? In this episode, Rob and Greg dive into the controversy surrounding these updates and discuss the ethical implications for agents. From forgery to enforcement, confusion to challenges, this conversation covers a lot of ground. They shed light on the need for a substa…
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Are you a real estate broker or agent grappling with the NAR settlement's requirement for written buyer agreements before showings? Rob and Greg dive deep into the controversy, debating the pros and cons of charging clients and exploring the potential consequences of non-compliance. They also discuss the evolving role of listing agents, the ethical…
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The August 17th deadline is almost here, and the industry is abuzz with talk of potential changes to MLSs and associations. Rob and Greg discuss the latest developments in the NAR settlement with the DOJ and its potential impact on compensation models, forms, and client relationships. With disruption looming, they delve into the hot topic of buyer …
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What happens when industry news is quiet? Industry soup. In this episode, Rob and Greg discuss various topics with an effort to draw parallels to real estate. From their weight loss strategies and detailed plan for a 60-day weight loss regimen to Tesla cars and the emotional connection people have with their vehicles. This conversation covers a lot…
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Are real estate forms truly consumer-friendly or are they just industry-driven? In this episode, Doug Miller and Wendy Gilch, Directors of CAARE (Consumer Advocates in American Real Estate), expose what they believe are the flaws in the current buyer agency agreements. From undisclosed dual agency to lack of cancellation clauses, these forms often …
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The recent acquisition of REcolorado by private equity firm GI Partners has sent shockwaves through the real estate industry. In this episode, Rob and Greg discuss the history of MLS privatization and the tensions between associations and MLSs. They shine a light on the lack of member control and power dynamics within the industry, exposing importa…
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Are you confused about the new MLS policy on commission disclosures and concessions? In this thought-provoking discussion, Rob and Greg dive into the challenges and potential solutions for agents and brokers. Learn about the ethical considerations involved in disclosing commissions to clients and renegotiating buyer agency agreements. Plus, gain in…
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Are you struggling to understand the NAR settlement agreement and its implications for real estate transactions? Joining us in this thought-provoking episode is Ed Zorn, VP & General Counsel for CRMLS. Rob, Greg, and Ed talk about the disconnect between NAR's understanding and other lawyers' interpretations, and what it means for brokers and agents…
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In this episode, Mr. Anton Reynaldo Bonifacio, Chief Information Security Officer and newly minted Chief AI Officer at Globe Group, discusses the Group's strategy for organising cybersecurity functions and vertically consolidating solutions using a best-of-breed approach. He also emphasises the importance of tackling challenges by assessing require…
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You may have heard the recent statements made by Michael Ketchmark regarding the NAR settlement, but do you really understand the implications for offers of compensation?In this episode, Rob and Greg discuss the recent statements made by Michael Ketchmark regarding the NAR settlement. They analyze the settlement agreement and try to understand the …
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The Tromsø Repository of Language and Linguistics (TROLLing) published its first dataset on June 13, 2014. Since then, the repository has grown to 173 datasets, each of which is available in open access and equipped with metadata explaining its contents. Two of the most frequent users of the archive, professor of Russian linguistics Laura A. Janda …
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Have you been keeping up with the latest updates in MLS policies? Rob and Greg break down the key details of Bright MLS's clear cooperation policy and NWMLS's decision not to remove compensation data from their system. But it doesn't stop there. They also dive into the potential legal consequences for fair housing violations and federal antitrust c…
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In this episode, Mr. Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan, Group Head of Cybersecurity and Data Privacy at Axiata Group, discusses the evolving cybersecurity landscape in ASEAN and the challenges faced by organizations in the region. He shares insights into Axiata's approach to structuring cybersecurity functions and selecting solutions based on a risk-based…
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Are the rumors true? Is Bright MLS really going to drop the Clear Cooperation Policy (CCP)? Rob and Greg explore the potential implications of this decision, and speculate on the motivations behind it and its potential impact on NAR's authority over MLSs. They also talk about the importance of fair housing and transparency in listings, and how this…
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Who is winning the portal wars? In this episode Rob and Greg talk about the future of the MLS and debate which company they would bet their life savings on – Zillow, REALTOR.com, or Homes.com. Providing insights into these key players of the industry. They also tackle updates on the NAR settlement and how new technologies are shaping the industry. …
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In this episode, Dr. Morgan Caroll, ESG Director for Vingroup and VinFast, discusses the winning project from the AIBP Tech for ESG Awards. Vingroup’s winning project initiative focuses on leveraging frontier technologies like IoT, AI, and blockchain. This includes VinFast’s EVs which aim to reduce carbon emissions with smart solutions enhance ener…
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What is the difference between the threat of steering in an illegitimate way and being transparent and informing your client? In this episode, Rob and Greg discuss the difference between steering and fiduciary duty in real estate and other various topics including Greg's recent trip to Boston, Redfin's settlement with NAR, the enforcement of buyer …
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With buyer agreements having to take place before a showing and Zillow’s new touring agreement what will the end consumer experience be? In this episode, Rob and Greg discuss updates on the NAR settlement and Zillow's new touring agreement. They explore the implications of the settlement for big brokers and the role of the MLS policy committee. The…
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In this episode, Pak Victor Lesmana, CEO BukaFinancial and commerce, Bukalapak, discusses the winning project from the AIBP Tech for ESG Awards. Bukalapak's winning project showcased their focus on “Empowering MSMEs with Inclusive Financial Infrastructure” through initiatives like Mitra Bukalapak and Kirim Uang. Pak Victor also shares Bukalapak's j…
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The German initiative KOALA (in English, Building Consortial Open Access Solutions) is a bottom-up initiative that negotiates funding for Diamond Open Access by cutting into library budgets. By pooling resources from more than a hundred research libraries across Germany, KOALA has so far secured funding for ten peer-reviewed journals and two book s…
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HomeServices of America has reached a settlement in the slew of commission lawsuits. Now that a huge domino has fallen, what will happen next in the industry? Rob and Greg discuss the next steps in the commission lawsuits and the potential challenges faced by copycat lawsuits. They also discuss the role of lawyers and the potential opt-out strategy…
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How will CoStar’s recent buyout of Matterport affect the industry? In this episode Rob and Greg dive into the recent acquisition of Matterport by CoStar and how Rob and Greg predicted this years ago. How will Zillow respond? And how will other industry giants such as Redfin be affected by this huge announcement? They also talk about Realtor.com's C…
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The non-profit initiative IOI (Invest in Open Infrastructure) works to increase the investment in, and adoption of, open infrastructure. This podcast episode was recorded in conjunction with the launch of the collaboratively developed, openly available Infra Finder database.More details, including a transcript of the entire episode, can be found at…
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In this episode, Pak Agi Agung Galuh Purwa, Secretary of the Information and Communication Technology (ICT) Department for the West Java Provincial Government in Indonesia, discusses the winning project from the AIBP Tech for ESG Awards. The project, led by Jabar Digital Services under the initiative of the West Java Communications and Informatics …
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Join Rob and Greg in this episode as they talk about the recent objection filed by Pulte Homes to the NAR settlements. Are they valid and will they make an impact? Also, what is Real Estate 3.0? Greg expands on what it means and how it will shift the roles of agents. Rob shares his insights from a recent panel he attended and what the potential for…
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Not one week goes by without some huge industry news surrounding NAR. In this episode, Rob ang Greg discuss the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals' reversal in the NAR vs. US lawsuit, paving way for a new probe in the wake of the pending commission lawsuit settlement. Rob and Greg explore the antitrust lawsuit's history, implications of the reversal, an…
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In this episode, Datin Ts. Habsah Nordin, Chief Data Officer of Petroliam Nasional Berhad (PETRONAS), discusses how the company has leveraged data to transform and grow its business in the last half-century. She provides an overview of how their data transformation started, and their continued investments in various projects, including Enterprise D…
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Did you catch the sparks fly on the last episode of Industry Relations? In case you missed it, last week Rob and Greg got into a verbal fistfight. Made up. Became friends again. And are now ready for round 2. Rob and Greg continue their NAR settlement talk, post verbal tussle. Exploring NAR's $418 million settlement, they talk about the association…
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What will the recent NAR settlement mean for the future of real estate, technology, and industry navigation? In this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg discuss the outcomes of the recent NAR settlement. They provide insights on the agreement, exploring their reactions and perspectives on the settlement's details. From provisions to backlas…
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In this episode, Francis Adrian Viernes, CFA, MSF, CCREP, PMDSA, Chief Data Scientist and Head of Data Analytics at Megaworld Corporation, discusses how they are making waves with its innovative use of artificial intelligence (AI) to create safe and secure townships. Francis delves into Megaworld's plans for expanding AI applications beyond acciden…
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Tune in to this must-listen episode of *Industry Relations* for an incisive breakdown of the NAR's landmark settlement, its ramifications, and the many lingering questions that promise to shape the discourse in real estate circles for years to come. Whether you're a real estate professional, an industry watcher, or just keen on understanding the fo…
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What does the future hold for real estate commissions? On this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg discuss the Clarity event and the legal updates regarding real estate commissions. They explore the concept of concessions and the issue of steering in the industry, the need for improved buyer agency agreements and buyer presentations and the…
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In this episode, Mr. Kong Kian Beng, CFO of IOI Corporation Berhad, discusses how the company has leveraged technology and innovation over the past few decades to transform and grow its palm oil business. He provides an overview of IOI's history, its move into palm oil in the 1980s when many saw it as a sunset industry, and its investments in downs…
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Who bears the brunt of legal defense costs? What financial toll does this uncertainty cast on associations? On this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg dive into the pressing issues faced by the National Association of Realtors (NAR) and its profound impact on local associations, MLSs and brokers. The insurance dilemma that has recently com…
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What impact will the Department of Justice's stance on the MLS settlement have on the future of buying and selling houses? In this important episode of "Industry Relations," Rob and Greg talk about a big message from the Department of Justice (DOJ) about the MLS settlement. The DOJ seems to want the court to say no to the settlement. Selling agents…
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ultimate cost warrant the spotlight? On this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg discuss Homes.com's momentous marketing push running an ad during the most watched event in America – the Super Bowl. And its potential ripple effects on industry giants like Zillow. Rob and Greg also revisit the real estate industry's current legal battles. Th…
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This episode discusses Diamond Open Access publishing services provided by institutions, occasioned by a recent landscape report on Institutional Publishing in the European Research Area and a synopsis of the same report. The main findings of the report are contextualized alongside previously assembled knowledge on Diamond Open Access journals and …
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How will the FCC’s new rules on lead aggregators affect real estate professionals? On this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg talk to Matthew Marx of Evocalize about how to stay compliant while still effectively marketing themselves. One of the biggest changes is that lead aggregators will now be required to obtain consent from consumers b…
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In this episode, we'll first hear from Abraham Thomas, Managing Partner, IBM Consulting, ASEAN who will be sharing insights on the implementation and impact of Generative AI across ASEAN. Following that, we'll connect with Deep Bhau, Managing Partner Indonesia & Ventures, who will dive deeper into the specific applications and challenges of this te…
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In this episode, we will hear from Andrian Purnama, Managing Partner, IBM Consulting Indonesia and subsequently with Roy Kosasih, the President Director of IBM Indonesia. These conversations will illuminate the diverse applications and perspectives on Generative AI in Indonesia and how it will play a crucial role in IBM's plans for Indonesia.…
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