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Jenna Kim Jones

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It’s so hard to find couple friends. And then when you do they, like, want to hang out. Problem solved! Let Jenna Kim Jones and her husband #AL be your virtual couple friends. JKJ and #AL are the married couple friends you really want to see but, like, you’re also kind of tired and maybe we can do it another time? They get you. And you get them. Listen to them talk about nonsense, play games, and ramble on about life. They’ll never talk politics and best of all, they’ll never ask you to baby ...
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First nuclear engineer we’ve had on as a guest! This week Jeremy is joined by the incisive Cynane Shay! Cynane discusses her journey through a rigid, evangelical upbringing and how it shaped her worldview, and how QAnon led to a deconstruction of her beliefs. She explores the influence of Christian nationalism and the prevalence of conspiracy theor…
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This week Jeremy is joined by clinical social worker and co-founder of the Reclamation Collective Kayla Felten. Kayla talks about her journey through deconstruction and starting the Collective, and She emphasizes the importance of non-clinical interventions and community care for individuals dealing with religious trauma and spiritual abuse. The Re…
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Jeremy is joined this week by journalist Chrissy Stroop to look at the manufactured moral panic targeting trans people. Jeremy and Chrissy discuss her personal experiences with religious trauma, the intertwining of evangelical Christianity with right-wing politics, and the predictable pattern of moral panics. Chrissy highlights the long-term strate…
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Jeremy is joined this week by therapist and end-of-life doula Kathleen Mack. Kathleen describes her lifelong curiosity about people's minds and experiences, stemming from her own mental health struggles and early fascination with human behavior. Kathleen shares how her father’s death influenced her and led her to pursue training as a death doula, w…
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Jeremy is joined this week by fellow licensed Marriage & Family Therapist and Sex Therapist, Caitlin Weber. Caitlin Weber discusses her journey into the mental health field and her path to becoming a systems-oriented therapist with a focus on sex therapy. Jeremy and Caitlin discuss the pervasive influence of religious norms on cultural attitudes to…
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Jeremy is joined this week by the dynamic duo of Naoko Ellis & Derek Gladwin from the University of British Columbia where they founded the Systems Beings Lab, a collaborative research collective that tackles the complexity of modern issues. In this episode, Derek and Naoko discuss emerging collaborative spaces in academia to address the climate em…
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Ugh, social media, am I right? Find out how JKJ and #AL feel about social media plus how we navigate our way through it all! Thank you for an awesome season!!! We’ll be back on October 2!!! JKJ’s Upcoming Shows: June 7 Mesa, Arizona https://www.mesaartscenter.com/index.php/shows/other-presenters/use-your-karate-shaun-johnson June 11 Provo, Utah htt…
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Our first prescriber on the show! Jeremy is joined this week by Psychiatric Mental Health Nurse Practitioner Rachel Jones, owner of Cup of Tea Psychiatry. Jeremy and Rachel talk about her winding path through nursing school and into the psychiatric side of the field, how the for-profit medical model creates an unhealthy environment for both patient…
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What is time??? And how do we manage it? #AL and JKJ go through their different approach to time and how they wrangle kids through it. JKJ’s Upcoming Shows: May 31-June 1 Panama City Beach, Florida Beaches Comedy Club https://www.beachescomedyclub.com/events/94473 June 7 Mesa, Arizona https://www.mesaartscenter.com/index.php/shows/other-presenters/…
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Jeremy is joined this week by artist and mental health advocate Jenna Knapp. Jenna is an artist in residence with the labyrinth at the Lynden Sculpture Garden on the north side of Milwaukee. Jeremy and Jenna talk about her mental health journey prior to creating the labyrinth, how and why labyrinths can be so helpful to mental health, and the commu…
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We’re back and we’re talking fashion! Turns out that we are dressing like the millennials we are and that’s NOT a good thing? We discuss updating our wardrobes and functionality over everything! 17 Ways to Update Your Basic Millennial Outfit: https://anindigoday.com/ways-to-update-your-basic-millennial-outfit/ Sign up to become a member of the JKJ …
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A blast from the past! Jeremy is joined this week by Rachel Beam, owner of Understand You, LLC. Jeremy and Rachel were in the same cohort at Marquette University way back in the day, and Rachel shares her journey in the field up to now opening her own practice. Jeremy and Rachel discuss some of their memories of what grad school did and did not pre…
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Today we are talking work styles! But first JKJ had to give updates on life including fish conspiracies, water and Diet Coke snafus. #AL and JKJ discover that their work styles are very very different. What’s your work style? Idea oriented, logical, detail oriented or supportive??? Sign up to become a member of the JKJ community at jennakimjones.co…
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Jeremy is joined this week by the fabulous Emily Vander Velden for a great chat. Emily talks about specializing in EMDR to work with trauma, how being a parent is a juggling act with being a therapist, and shares about getting her recent ADHD diagnosis. Jeremy and Emily talk about self-care, and how holding space for others is such a powerful exper…
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We’re back with another episode and this time JKJ and #AL dig into their food styles (and issues). We’re trying to make some lifestyle changes with our food habits and it’s brought out many of JKJ’s food feelings which apparently are a lot stronger than she realized. We also discuss internet food trolls, terrible recipes and more! Internet cooking …
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Jeremy is joined this week by Alyssa Zajdel to jump into the world of sports psychology and performance. Jeremy and Alyssa talk about different sports requiring different mindsets, the difference in support that elite athletes can get from club or high school sports, and how it was not fun for student athletes or mental health professionals when CO…
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We are back and this week JKJ gets fired up about cottage cheese! But then we remember this isn’t the food episode and we get into it about spending styles and the way they deal with money in our home! There are budgets and meetings about budgets and then JKJ’s strong desire to NOT listen to budgets and meetings about budgets. We have fun! Sign up …
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Jeremy is joined this week by the incredibly insightful Alita Taylor. Jeremy and Alita talk about the shortcomings of the medical model, the secondary trauma of working in a failing system, and Alita shares her expertise about Open Dialogue, a practical and philosophical approach to navigating mental health crises. We also chat about Finnish metal …
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What’s our home like? We give all the details! We discuss some new trends, our favorite things about our home and how we try to maintain some organization in all the chaos. Plus an update on homeschooling, life, work and more! JKJ’s Upcoming Shows: April 27 - Hershey, Pennsylvania https://events.humanitix.com/jenna-kim-jones-brings-clean-laughs-to-…
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Jeremy is joined this week by author, activist, and poet Mark Green to talk about his new book Round We Dance. Jeremy and Mark talk about the need for a book on how to do rituals, why ritual is so important to the human psyche, and how to approach ritual outside of an organized religious setting. It’s a wide-ranging chat that covers a lot, and the …
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How to vacation or NOT vacation—that is our speciality! This week JKJ and #AL discuss vacationing. Are we good at it? No but we definitely know what we like and don’t like! What’s your vacation style? Sign up to become a member of the JKJ community at jennakimjones.com! Call us and leave a voicemail or text at 404-477-4160! We want to hear from you…
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Jeremy is joined for a fascinating conversation by Kelsey Philippi from ERA Wellness. Kelsey shares her journey of becoming a therapist from a background in biology and research before eventually landing in the mental health field, how couples and families exist as their own ecosystems, and how nature helps us to ground, center, and heal. To learn …
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#AL and JKJ dish on their VERY different sleep styles! We discuss how we make it work, the dos and don’ts of our sleep styles, napping at work, our favorite sleep hours and so so much more! Sleeping at work: https://fortune.com/well/2024/04/07/sleep-medicine-napping-at-work/ Carson Daly: https://pagesix.com/2024/04/09/entertainment/carson-daly-insi…
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This week Jeremy is joined by the ultra-talented Lane Moore. Lane is a comedian, actor, author, and musician. Moore is the creator of the hit comedy show Tinder Live, bestselling author of How To Be Alone and You Will Find Your People, the frontperson in the band It Was Romance, and host of the podcast I Thought It Was Just Me on Patreon. Jeremy an…
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We’re back and we’re ready to party! Welcome to Season 2 of Couple Friends! This Season we are discussing styles! Parenting, cooking, social media, fashion—you name it, we’re discussing it! In this first episode we catch you back up with our lives and dive right into our parenting styles as well as the parenting trends we love and hate (mostly hate…
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Jeremy gets the chance to sit down with the delightful Kit Weathers for a neurodivergent chat. We talk about Kit’s journey from pastor’s kid, to missionary, to deconstructing and becoming a sex therapist and religious trauma recovery coach, with some mental health diagnoses sprinkled in. Kit and Jeremy talk about finding the good parts of church ou…
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Jeremy is joined this week by Elise Birch for an open, authentic chat. Elise shares their unique journey into the mental health field, and the niche areas they focus their practice working with. Jeremy and Elise explore the complexities of art therapy, highlighting its benefits in processing trauma and expressing emotions, even in telehealth settin…
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Jeremy is joined this week for a great chat by Dr Gabby Miniscalco. During our talk Dr Gabby shares some insights into the immigrant experience and the pressures of conforming to American culture while grappling with her Polish identity, feeling caught in between worlds but not belonging in either. The conversation delves into the trauma and grief …
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Jeremy is joined this week by the authentic and genuine Becca Ferguson. Becca and Jeremy talk about growing up in conservative households that didn’t talk about mental health, Becca’s horror stories with her own therapy, and getting to a place where she now helps other therapists build the practice of their dreams. It’s a fun chat that covers a lot…
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Jeremy is joined this week by the incredibly insightful David Hayden. Jeremy and David talk about growing up with the desire to help others from an early age, the various chapters of growth therapists go through with their clients, and David’s winding path with different modalities that allow for deeper healing with clients. You can learn more abou…
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Jeremy is joined this week by Dr Christine Henry for an authentic conversation about the many facets of Neurodivergence. Jeremy and Christine talk about getting diagnosed later in life while already working in the field, the intersections of being a mental health professional while advocating as a parent, and how Autism and ADHD have a lot of diagn…
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Jeremy is joined this week all the way from North Carolina by the delightful Michelle Moseley. Jeremy and Michelle discuss their own experiences with religious trauma, and the intersection of religion, patriarchy, and capitalism in the workplace. They also touch on issues such as body image concerns and the challenges of reconnecting mind and body …
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Jeremy is joined this week by the fabulous Amber Kerby. Jeremy and Amber talk about plain ol’ ordinary therapy, and how and why we as professionals expand our approaches once we’ve spent more time in the field. Nonordinary therapies Jeremy and Amber discuss are Ketamine Assisted Therapy, Internal Family Systems, and Psychedelic Integration, along w…
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It’s the Wellness with Jenn and Jer episode! Jeremy has the serendipitous chance to sit down with Jenn Sowers for this episode. They talk about what nature informed therapy is and how it helps, the importance of community while working in the mental health field, and ways to reconnect to the natural world in our tech-driven go-go-go society. To lea…
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Jeremy gets the chance to sit down with religious recovery consultant Janice Selbie this week. Janice is a Registered Professional Counselor and is the founder of the Conference on Religious Trauma (CORT), the host of the Divorcing Religion podcast, and runs the Shameless Sexuality workshop series. Janice and Jeremy talk about how leaving fundament…
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This week Jeremy is joined for a wide-ranging chat by the incredibly insightful Emily Lapolice. Jeremy and Emily talk about trauma informed yoga and the Trauma Center Trauma Sensitive Yoga program where she is a mentor, facilitator, and trainer. We talk about intergenerational trauma, religious trauma, and decolonizing mental health spaces. We also…
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Jeremy is joined this week by fellow LMFT Mahrs Schoppman. Jeremy and Mahrs talk about some of the intersectionalities of queerness and religious trauma, why group therapy can be such a powerful tool for healing, and why churches don’t want you to be comfortable in your own skin. For more info about Mahrs’s practice, you can head over to therapywit…
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Jeremy is joined this week by fellow nerdy therapist Greg Schoeneck. Greg and Jeremy talk about walk-and-talk therapy and how it helps with trauma, therapeutic tabletop role playing games (like D&D), and how therapy can look different from the sterile, medical model and meet more people where they’re at in their authentic lives. You can learn more …
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Jeremy is joined this week by founder of the Secular Therapy Project, Dr. Darrel Ray. Jeremy and Darrel talk about the need for secular therapy, how religious groups have changed their approach to therapy over the years, and why activism is so needed to create safe, secular spaces. Dr. Ray talks about some of his previous research on sex and secula…
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Jeremy is joined this week by author, poet and cryptonaturalist Jarod K Anderson. Jeremy and Jarod talk about the stigmas that still exist today around mental health, Jarod’s journey reconnecting to nature, and how we can connect with the magic of the natural world. Jarod shares some poetry, and talks about his upcoming book Something in the Woods …
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This week Jeremy is joined by the theology therapist, Hannah Brents! Hannah and Jeremy talk about the false dichotomy of religious or atheist, how the deconstruction process looks different the longer you’ve been out of organized religion, and how to build community after leaving the church. Hannah has a great course we talk about, check that out h…
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Special guest episode! This week Jeremy is joined by one of the co-hosts of the Friendly Atheist Podcast, Jessica Bluemke! Jessica works with the Hanson Center to provide therapeutic horseback riding and related services. Jessica and Jeremy talk about how riding can be so helpful to those with disabilities, how riding a horse mirrors some aspects o…
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We’ve been married for almost 12 years but we’re STILL learning about each other! We play our version of the Newlywed Game and answer questions about each other. Sometimes we were spot on and sometimes we couldn’t be further off. This is the final episode of Season 1 and we’re so grateful for y’all! We’ll be back in a few months. Until then……. Chec…
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Jeremy is joined this week for a fun ADHD conversation by Laura Skinner. Jeremy and Laura talk about trauma and using ketamine to help treatment, how grad school does not prepare therapists for the amount of trauma we see regularly, and how being neurodivergent can show up in the therapy room. To find more from Laura, you can check out her practice…
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Y’all had some great questions and we were ready to answer them! We discuss kids, family life, homeschooling and so much more! Stay tuned for a bonus episode because weren’t able to get to all of your questions! Check out JennaKimJones.com for all the recent updates including the trailers for my new special! Watch the video of this podcast at YouTu…
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This week Jeremy is joined by fellow marriage therapist Angela Skurtu. Jeremy and Angela talk about sex therapy in couples counseling, trauma responses, and neurodivergent parenting. Angela also gives a sneak peek at her upcoming book Becoming Fuckable. It’s a great chat where we cover a lot of ground in a classic ADHD sort of way! Angela has a ton…
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A lot of people ask us how we met so we finally dedicated an entire episode to our story! It all starts in a hurricane in Rhode Island….Listen to hear the rest! Check out JennaKimJones.com for all the recent updates including the trailers for my new special! Watch the video of this podcast at YouTube.com/jennakimjones! Sign up to become a member of…
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This week Jeremy is joined by the head athletic trainer at Illinois-Wesleyan University Melissa Perkins. Jeremy and Melissa go way back, having worked together in college athletics. They talk about the importance of work-life balance in the helping professions, supporting mental health through difficult transitions, and some of the progress and som…
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In this episode we go back in time and reminisce about life before iPhones, growing into technology, old school Halloween candy, Thanksgiving memories and more! Check out JennaKimJones.com for all the recent updates including the trailers for my new special! Watch the video of this podcast at YouTube.com/jennakimjones! Sign up to become a member of…
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Jeremy had the opportunity to chat with the incredibly insightful Megan Von Fricken. Megan and Jeremy talked about the indoctrination tactics of high control religion, the importance of compassion while deconstructing, and how to find community after leaving the church. Megan has a lot of great info on her website, with info on working with her and…
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