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Science 4-Hire is now Psych Tech @ Work! - a podcast about safe innovation at the intersection of psychological science, technology, and the future of work. Psych Tech @ Work promotes safe technological innovation and human/machine partnerships as an essential force in creating equilibrium and between psychology and commerce. Maintaining this balance in a time of unprecedented change is essential for ensuring that the future of work is ethical, positive, and prosperous. Creating such a futur ...
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How to Kick off an Exciting Career in IO Psychology with Brando and Joe
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"It’s important to be a sponge when you're early in your career. Pick up pieces of what everybody else is doing that looks like it's working, and if it doesn't work, then you learn and grow from it." Brandon Sulzberg "Having an open mind early in your career can lead you to discover new interests and opportunities you might have otherwise overlooke…
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Organizational Justice Theory and Fairness in the Workplace. With Stephen Gilliland
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"Organizational justice is about ensuring that every individual feels they are treated fairly and with respect in all aspects of their work. It’s not just about the outcomes they receive, but how those outcomes are decided and communicated. Fair processes and respectful treatment are fundamental to maintaining trust and equity within any organizati…
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AI, Skills based hiring, digital transformation and the future of recruiting: With Matt Alder
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"Skills-based hiring isn't just removing a degree requirement from a job description. It takes a long time and serious commitment to see it through." -Matt Alder Summary: My guest for this episode is Matt Alder, podcaster, author, consultant and futurist This is an exciting episode because it includes the first ever episode of The Take it or Leave …
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EEOC Commissioner Keith Sonderling’s Take on Government Regulation in the Age of AI
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"From the EEOC's perspective, whether an employment action, employment decision is made by a human or an algorithm, liability is going to be the same for those companies." "AI tools really have the ability to prevent discrimination, but at the same time, they have the ability to discriminate more than any one individual human being." -EEOC Commissi…
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How Psychology, HR Technology, and Investment are Shaping the Future of Work
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"Everything really starts with the customer. It's not just about having a technology, but understanding the problem you're solving." -George LaRoque Summary: In this episode, George LaRocque, a leading HR technology analyst, investor and the founder of Work Tech- the #1 source of truth around investment and growth in the HR Tech market, joins me to…
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The Journey from IO Psychologist to HR Leader: Mastering the Business of People
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In this episode I welcome JP Elliot, HR and Talent Executive & Host of the Future of HR Podcast. JP Elliott is a forward-thinking global human resources executive with extensive experience implementing human capital initiatives that drive business results, improve organizational performance, and elevate company culture. He is a trusted business par…
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The psychological impact of tech in the workplace: A simple matter of trust
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Quote: We talk about the effect of technology on everything, but ultimately, it's the people that matter." This theme has shown up repeatedly, emphasizing that technology doesn't have uniform effects; we have to consider the psychology of implementation, how it's used, and its context. Summary: In a thought-provoking episode of "People, Science, …
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Crafting the Future of Ethical AI in the Workplace with Matt Scherer
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"Legislation... has not kept up with the pace of technological advancements, posing significant challenges for ensuring fairness in AI-driven hiring processes." -Matt Scherer Summary: In this episode of "Science 4-Hire," I welcome Matt Scherer, Senior Policy Counsel for Workers' Rights at the Center for Democracy in Technology, a non-profit based i…
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Chatbots & Generative AI in Recruitment: A Deep Dive with Martyn Redstone of pplbots
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In this episode of Science 4-Hire, I welcome my new friend Martyn Redstone, founder of pplbots and a pioneering force in the intersection of conversational AI and recruitment technology. We have a fun and meaningful conversation about the evolution of chatbots and the role of generative AI in the recruitment process. With over two decades in techno…
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Ethics by Design: Responsible AI is Blueprint, not a Band-aid
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"This AI piece and all the ethics and governance and everything that goes around that... it really warrants a dedicated role and some specific communities focused on AI ethics and risks." Bob Pulver: Founder of Cognitive Path Summary: My guest for this episode is Bob Pulver, a seasoned expert in the intersection of artificial intelligence and talen…
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LLAMA, LLAMA- How to Avoid Generative AI Drama!
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“So most of the world is made up of full stack application developers who build software for anything from HRIS to accounting, to supply chain, and what have you? For those people to easily add generative AI capabilities into their applications while remaining in compliance with the security, trust, and safety requirements that enterprises have, we…
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Talent Acquisition Excellence - A Reality Check
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"There is no one way to do recruitment right, there are many ways to do it right but even more ways to do it badly." -Bas van de Haterd "The reality is that we're in an era of experimentation. We have to experiment continuously." -Kevin Wheeler Summary: In this episode of Science 4-Hire I welcome two old friends, distinguished Science 4-Hire alumni…
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Hired by a Hologram? The future of talent evaluation will be wild. With Georgi Yankov, Principal Research Scientist at DDI
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“I really see the technology as a driver of user friendliness of assessment in the future and because people don't have time anymore to sit down for many hours and do writing samples and take personality tests of 300-500 questions.” -Georgi Yankov Summary: In this forward-looking episode of Science 4-Hire, I welcome Georgi Jankov, a fellow IO psych…
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Mastering Content Marketing in the AI Era: What every professional needs to know!
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Mary Ellen Slayter: "AI is a race to the middle. Generative AI content is, by my definition, mediocre." In this episode I take a bit of a departure from the world of hiring to talk with my long time friend, Mary Ellen Slayter, the founder of Reputation Capital, a top notch digital content marketing firm. Don’t be afraid of the fact that we do not t…
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Vegemite, Stroopwafles, and AI based assessments: New sensation, or acquired taste?
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"Personnel selection is shaking on its foundations. Lots of the assessments that we have, that we do, suddenly we're not quite sure if they're still as effective.” “I feel as if now it's starting to become the responsibility of organizations who are hiring to make sure that people are using it (Chat GPT) in the same way so that that they can clearl…
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Building Digital Coaches Using AI and Psychology: With Dr. Matt Barney
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“When GPT 3.5 came out. I was like, oh my gosh, we don't need to train the AI anymore! We just need to prime it. It's so similar to psychology! Instead of programming and language, we'd do it in English.” In this episode of Science 4-Hire, I chew the digital fat with Dr. Matt Barney, founder and CEO of XLNC, a company that is using AI to create the…
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Spirits in the empirical world: The plight of human job seekers in the age of AI
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"As a journalist, I've seen the many facets of AI in hiring – it's not just about the technology, but about the people it affects." - Hilke Schellman In this revealing episode of Science 4-Hire, Dr. Charles Handler welcomes Hilke Schulman for a captivating conversation on AI in hiring processes and its toll on the rights and psyche of job seekers. …
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Hey You Got Your Linguistics in My IO Psychology! With Karin Golde, Ph.D.- Founder of West Valley AI
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“When you're a linguist, especially a syntactician, when you look at language, it's kind of different from how other people look at language. You kind of see the structures under it, kind of have this x-ray vision, right, of of what's going on under the hood.” - Karin Golde, Founder of West Valley AI. In this awesome and inspiring episode of Scienc…
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"Making People Smarter about People”: The role of technology and ethics in building world class hiring systems
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"We bring data and insights right from that data to our decision-makers... that's how we make people smarter about people." - Christina Norris Watts This episode offers a unique perspective on balancing innovation with ethics in the rapidly changing world of HR technology. My co-pilot for this journey is Christina Norris Watts, Head of Assessment a…
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Setting people analytics free! With Cole Napper VP of People Analytics at Orgnostic, and Host of the Directionally Correct Podcast
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People analytics is not just for psychologists anymore! "I think that not only will people analytics be the decision maker themselves. In the future, I actually think people analytics will be what HR is." –Cole Napper on People Analytics My guest this week is Cole Napper, IO psychologist extraordinaire, People analytics thought leader, and inspirat…
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The Future Awaits! Navigating Global AI Ethics and Governance with Arnoud Engelfriet
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We are all in this together! Don’t miss the chance to expand your mind with a global perspective on issues that will help define the future of global policy work, commerce, and life in general. In this intriguing episode of "Science 4-Hire," I welcome Arnoud Engelfriet from the Netherlands to discuss AI ethics and governance, particularly in the co…
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The People Analytics Software Market: Anyone Can Make A List. It Takes Expertise to Give it Life! - With Stacia Sherman Garr
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Full disclosure: This episode was recorded before our break. In the normal world, not much would have changed in 5 months. But in the new reality of Generative AI- changes have occurred since we recorded this episode. They do not make the research discussed any less valuable, because the trends were identified- but the execution of them is ever evo…
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I Interviewed ChatGPT About the Future of Hiring and the Results are Profound and Hilarious
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And now for something completely different. My guest for this enlightening episode of Science 4-Hire, is none other than the biggest superstar of the AI world, the LLM known as ChatGPT. In this fun and educational interview I uncork ChatGPT’s personality as a witty, quirky, and extremely knowledgeable guest. Our amazing conversation delves into the…
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GPT and talent assessment: Cheat code or power up? With Neil Morelli
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Join me, Dr. Charles Handler, for the latest episode of Science 4-Hire as I engage in a fascinating conversation with Neil Morelli, lead IO psychologist at Codility, a global provider of coding assessments. Our discussion centers around LLMs, such as GPT, and the dangers they present to test security and honesty when taking assessments. We agree th…
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The Psychology of HR Technology: The Human Touch Will Define the Future of Work With Steve Hunt
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In the latest episode of Science 4-Hire, I had a fascinating conversation with Steve Hunt, Chief Expert of Technology & Work at SAP. Together, we discussed Steve’s latest book, Talent Techtonics, which provides a framework for our conversation. As he notes... “I wanted to talk about how work is changing, but not just trends like how hybrid work, bu…
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Psychology, technology, business, and the future come together at SIOP 2023 With Fred Oswald
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In the latest episode of Science 4-Hire, I have a refreshing and relaxing conversation with Fred Oswald, an esteemed industrial-organizational psychologist and professor at Rice University. Fred is extremely active in the area of AI ethics and governance, especially with regards to hiring. Fred has served on many committees addressing these issues …
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Building a Bridge to the Future of Skills Based Talent Programs. With Christy Smith and Lauren Robertson
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On today's episode of Science 4-Hire, I welcome Christy Smith and Lauren Robertson for an enlightened discussion about the importance of skills identification and assessment on the future of talent acquisition and development. Christy is the central market leader for career products at Mercer, supporting the commercial strategy for Mercer's skills …
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Dissecting jobs via automation: Where do we go from here? With Collin Hawkes
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My guest for this episode is Collin Hawkes, Senior Lead I/O Psychologist at Lumen Technologies, an internet services company whose mission is to connect people with technology. Join us today for an interesting conversation that focuses on the use of AI and machine learning to break jobs into a variety of elements, a process also known as “Job Analy…
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AI hiring legislation- What you need to know! With Richard Landers & Mark Girouard
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In this episode I welcome two different but complimentary perspectives on the legal aspects of employment testing that are happening in an ambiguous and seemingly ever-changing environment. While the conversation is oriented towards the ever controversial and somewhat frustrating NYC algorithmic hiring law that has recently gone into effect (?), it…
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Will ChatGPT steal our humanity and our jobs? With Dr. Tomas Chamorro-Premuzic
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My guest for this episode is Dr. Tomas Chamorro-Premuzic. Besides his role as the Chief Innovation Officer at Manpower Group, Dr. Tomas is a world-renowned IO psychologist, educator, entrepreneur and author. He joins me today to discuss his new book, I, Human: AI, Automation, and the Quest to Reclaim What Makes Us Unique. We use the big picture pri…
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How is HR certification reshaping the world of work? With Dr. Amy Dufrane and Andre Allen
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On this episode my guests Dr. Amy Dufrane, SPHR, Andre Allen and I discuss the value of HR certification for both individuals and businesses, as well as the role certification plays in current business trends. Amy is the CEO of the Human Resources Certification Institute and Andre is its Chairman of the Board. Not only do these two know the ins and…
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Avoid the "Bad Data Landfill" Using Responsible AI in Hiring Assessments With Mike Campion
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My guest for this episode, Mike Campion, is one of the most respected and prolific IO psychologists around. With hundreds of publications and over a thousand consulting projects under his belt, when it comes to predictive hiring tools, Mike has seen and done it all. It is a real honor to have him on the show to discuss the responsible use of AI and…
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The Candidate Experience Journey Done Right! With Kevin Grossman
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On this episode of Science 4-Hire, I’m joined by none other than Kevin Grossman, president and board member at Talent Board and expert on all things candidate experience. Every year, Grossman leads Talent Board’s benchmark research to identify trends and best practices in what makes a good candidate experience journey. What does Talent Board’s rese…
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Exploring Innovations in Assessment Methods for Hiring With Bas van de Haterd
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Today on Science 4-Hire, I’m joined by Bas van de Haterd, an assessment enthusiast and self-proclaimed “professional snoop” dedicated to helping his clients get to the root of their hiring problems. Van de Haterd researches innovative assessment methods for hiring in the Netherlands, awarding top innovators for their creativity and potential. If yo…
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How the Pros Integrate Recruiting and Talent Assessment Processes With Jenna Alexander
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On today’s episode of Science 4-Hire, I’m speaking with Jenna Alexander, Randstad’s global vice president of internal talent acquisition. She recruits recruiters for recruiters, so she’s pretty heavily invested in what a good recruitment experience looks like and how to nestle talent assessment processes within recruitment. If you’re curious how a …
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HR Tech’s Impact on the Future of Talent Assessment Tools With John Sumser and Jeanne Achille
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Today on Science 4-Hire, I’m joined by HR tech visionaries John Sumser, principal analyst at HRExaminer, and Jeanne Achille, CEO of The Devon Group and chair of the HR Technology Conference & Exposition. We join forceshere to talk about an intriguing and mind expanding topic: How are changes in the world of HR tech impacting what’s next for talent …
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Building a Truly Global Talent Assessment Strategy at Vodafone With Margarita Echeverria and Simon Defoe
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Building a truly global talent assessment program is a massive challenge. But when your company is undergoing a major transformation, it becomes a business necessity, enabling you to find the talent you need to support large scale change. In this episode of Science 4-Hire, you’ll find out how Vodafone’s global talent assessment strategy is powering…
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The Role of Assessments in a Decentralized Future With Wulf Kaal and Tony Greenberg
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We spend a lot of time here talking about the future of work, but my guests today have a unique perspective on the role of decentralized autonomous organizations, or DAOs will play in creating the workplace of tomorrow. Today on Science 4-Hire, I’m joined by economist and governance expert Wulf Kaal and investor and visionary Tony Greenberg. Kaal a…
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How HR Trends Are Shaping the Future of Assessment Technology With Jeremy Tipper
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HR Technology has a major influence on workplace trends. From nontraditional career paths becoming the norm to candidates calling the shots, HR tech is accelerating the workplace trends that force employers to get creative with talent acquisition and management. This episode of Science 4-Hire features all-star guest Jeremy Tipper, a longtime HR tec…
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Building a Neurodiversity Hiring Program With Dell’s Danielle Biddick
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You’ve probably been hearing more about neurodiversity hiring programs lately. But what is neurodiversity, and what does it mean for your talent strategy? Danielle Biddick, neurodiversity hiring program manager at Dell, joins Dr. Charles Handler on this episode of Science 4-Hire to answer this question and many more. Listen in to learn how Dell is …
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Where Talent Acquisition and Recruiting Automation Meet With Dr. Alan Bourne
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Should we stop hiring? Don’t be ridiculous. Advances in automation are rapidly transforming not only how we think about recruiting but also how we actually do it — and that can be pretty scary. But despite the naysayers, change isn't all bad, and automation has the potential to enhance the talent acquisition processes and revolutionize our business…
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Quantifying the Candidate Experience With Nicholas Bremner
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In this episode, my guest is Nicholas Bremner, senior manager of people decision science at Uber. We discuss the candidate experience survey that Nicholas and his team developed, how that survey has provided Uber with hard data that connects candidate experience to business outcomes.By Dr. Charles Handler
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Creating Gender Equity in the Hiring Process With Dorothy Dalton
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In today’s episode of Science 4-Hire, I am thrilled to talk with Dorothy Dalton, the founder of 3Plus International. In this episode, we discuss Dorothy’s philosophy toward work, how organizations can practice equity today and how organizations can create a mechanism of change by improving their hiring processes.…
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Improving the Candidate Experience With Kevin Grossman
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In this episode of Science 4-Hire, Dr. Charles Handler is joined by Kevin Grossman, president and board member at Talent Board, to discuss improving the overall candidate experience.By Dr. Charles Handler
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Assessing Diversity in the Workplace With Rocki Howard
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In this episode of Science 4-Hire, Dr. Charles Handler is joined by Rocki Howard, CDO at SmartRecruiters, to chat about assessing diversity in the workplace.By Dr. Charles Handler
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How to Keep Your Employees Happy at Work With Slack’s Jenn Longbine
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In this episode of Science 4-Hire, Dr. Charles Handler chats with his friend Jenn Longbine, HR and recruitment leader and head of G&A recruiting at Slack, about how to keep employees happy at work.By Dr. Charles Handler
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How Hershey’s Inclusive Hiring Practices Resulted in Big DEI Wins With Alicia Petross
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Hundreds of companies made big statements supporting diversity, equity and inclusion in the workplace last year. But what’s really changed? In this episode of Science 4-Hire, Hershey’s Chief Diversity and Inclusion Officer- Alicia Petross shares how the candy giant tackles hiring inequity with a strategic, targeted DEI plan.…
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The Power of Assessments in a Tight Labor Market With Bas van de Haterd
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Think using assessments in a tight labor market is a bad idea? Think again! In this episode of Science 4-Hire, Dr. Charles Handler and Bas van de Haterd discuss how well-designed talent assessments improve hiring and fight bias in a tight labor market.By Dr. Charles Handler
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What the World's Biggest Retailer Can Teach Us About Employee Selection
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Selection scientists and recruiters must work as a team to find the best candidates, but their efforts often conflict. Recruiters often want to bring more people in, while pre-hire testing works to screen them out. But the data paints a compelling case for employee selection — and my guest today has no shortage of data. On today’s episode of Scienc…
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In this episode I speak with Linda Frietman- one of the founders of IamProgrez a talent assessment firm located in the Netherlands. Linda’s core mission is to create pathways that allow people to show who they are through the data they create- and her firm is doing this in a most novel and interesting way. While there are many firms out there who o…
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