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Liminal Space dives deep into the messy beauty of living between cultures, identities, and ideologies—especially at the crossroads between China and the West. Hosted by Susan Su and Matthew Lu, two Third-Culture kids in China, we bring you "the good, bad, and the weird" with an insider’s nuance. Each episode, we feature guests navigating their own cultural in-betweenness. Tune in for fresh perspectives and honest dialogue that reveals what lies hidden in life's edges and overlaps. 临界之间 Limin ...
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The SEA4 Podcast aims to bring the stories of refugees from Laos, Cambodia, and Vietnam and their American-born descendants into the mainstream. By focusing on athletes and other accomplished individuals who have overcome adversity we hope to inspire others to pursue their dreams. John Messina and Ko Chandetka from the Lao American Sports Hall of Fame will be interviewing athletes and others who represent the diverse cultures of Southeast Asia including Lao, Laotian, Khmu, Khmer, Hmong, Viet ...
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As a music genre, plunderphonics is somewhat misunderstood. While the genre is based on samples, much like hip-hop, it isn't just music made from other music. It utilizes samples to push the boundaries of copyright -- what is fair use, what is public domain, who truly owns a piece of music? Matthew Blackwell's new book for 33 1/3's GENRE series, Pl…
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Zachary Keomysay, better known as Keymo, left his childhoodhome in Nebraska chasing a dream in Los Angeles. While his vision of dancing on the big screen didn’t unfold as planned, the journey led him to something even more powerful: storytelling. Drawing from his ancient roots in Laos and his upbringing n the great plains of America, Keymo weaves p…
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Teresa is a well-known product coach and author who runs her entire life and business using two Claude Code terminals and a note taking app. It was genuinely mind blowing to watch her use Claude Code to manage her to do list, delegate her research, and write content. Teresa and I talked about: (00:00) Why Teresa uses Claude Code to run her life (03…
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Yana is Head of AI at Amplitude and a good friend. We had some real talk about how to stay scrappy inside a big company, including how to avoid decision by committee and endless internal debates. Yana also demoed her favorite AI workflows to triage her emails and aggregate customer feedback. I think you’ll love our banter 😅 Yana and I talked about:…
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The BTTM guys are running their mouths about THE RUNNING MAN. Allan, Tyler, and Justin dig into the recent Edgar Wright-directed film and the same-named 1987 Arnold Schwarzenegger star vehicle, which are both adapted -- to different degrees -- from the novel by Stephen King (under his Richard Bachman alias). It's a boisterous discussion among three…
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"Rhythm and News" hosts Aubrie Cole, Aden Max Juarez and Sammy Bovitz discuss and predict The Game Awards 2025, from Game of the Year frontrunner "Clair Obscur: Expedition 33" to other indie titles like "Dispatch." This episode was written and hosted by Aubrie Cole, Aden Max Juarez and Sammy Bovitz; edited by Wendy Le; produced by Kaylee Eiber, Nat…
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As VP of Alexa, Daniel builds product for 600M Alexa devices. He had a great answer to my tough question: “Why has it taken so long to add AI to Alexa?” and then gave a live demo of what an AI-powered Alexa looks like. We also had a great chat about how to apply Amazon’s working backwards process to build useful AI products. Daniel and I talked abo…
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In this episode, we sit down with Owen Sutter—an Oregonian who crossed the Pacific in search of opportunity, challenge, and a life that would never feel boring. From the chaotic charm of Ho Chi Minh City to the hyper-efficient pace of Shenzhen, Owen’s story reflects what happens when you place yourself at the edge of comfort and let the world resha…
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Xinran is a top AI instructor who has taught 100s of product teams how to design and prototype with AI. He shared 5 practical techniques to avoid generating AI slop — from side-by-side exploration to reverse prompting to component libraries — that you can start trying today. If you want to level up on AI prototyping, this is a must watch. Xinran an…
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Tanay is the CEO and co-founder of Wispr Flow, my favorite app to dictate to AI 10x faster than typing. I asked him to do a live tutorial on how to get the most out of AI voice dictation, how his brain-to-text device reads your thoughts without speaking, and how he built an AI product that has 70% annual retention (unheard of!) by NOT focusing on A…
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Ambient Music, as a genre, is one that is meant to be experienced consciously or unconsciously. It can be focused upon or ignored. It can feed your soul, brighten your day, or just counterpoint the din of the everyday. Dusty Henry, in his new book for 33 1/3's GENRE series, focuses upon 20TH CENTURY AMBIENT. The book looks at early and unexpected i…
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"Rhythm and News" hosts Reya Chand and Genna Edelstein discuss the history of movie musicals, from "The Sound of Music" (1965) to the upcoming "Wicked: For Good," and make predictions on how the highly anticipated movie will "hold space" in our minds before it hits theaters on Nov. 21. This episode was written and hosted by Genna Edelstein and Reya…
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As the head of design at Cursor, Ryo is at the cutting edge of designers who ship code instead of mocks. He showed me how he built a retro OS with AI and did a live demo of adding a new feature using Cursor’s new agent mode. We also covered how to avoid AI design slop and how the Cursor team reached $29B valuation without full-time PMs. Ryo and I t…
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Ami is the one of my favorite product leaders, period. In my new episode, she breaks down why shipping fast beats the best strategy, how to build simple products that win, how to ask AI for brutally honest feedback, and more. Ami led product at Faire and WhatsApp, but above all she just has great, practical advice for all builders. Ami and I talked…
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Ocean waves, ocean waves. One of the best-loved movies of the fall has been Paul Thomas Anderson's ONE BATTLE AFTER ANOTHER. The Better Than the Movie crew is joined by Rene Franco, the head of Skylight's Rabbit Hole Reading Club, to discuss the flick and also the novel which provided some inspiration, Thomas Pynchon's kooky and kaleidoscopic Vinel…
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Colin has taught 1000s of students how to build SaaS apps with AI. In this episode, he showed me exactly why my vibe coded prototype was insecure and how to convert it into a real SaaS app with auth, payments, and more. If you want to learn to build SaaS apps in 40 minutes with Cursor and Claude Code, then this episode is for you. Colin and I talke…
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What happens when love sends you halfway across the world, and food brings you back home? In this episode, Susan and I sit down with Tina Zhao — chef, entrepreneur, and founder of Alinta, a Shanghai restaurant that fuses Australian ease with Chinese precision. Tina first left Shanghai at 17 to chase love in Melbourne, only to discover something els…
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Mwahahaha! The Better Than the Movie crew have gathered again to celebrate R.L. Stine's GOOSEBUMPS horror series for young readers. Rather than just talk ABOUT the books, as they did on the last Halloween special, they talk THROUGH a book. Justin reads a GIVE YOURSELF GOOSEBUMPS title (a kind of CHOOSE YOUR OWN ADVENTURE sub-series from the late 19…
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Wade is the co-founder and CEO of Zapier. We’re both sick of everyone calling everything an “AI agent” so we had some real talk about what actually works instead. Wade gave me a practical demo of his AI workflow that triages 100+ emails to 10 and shared exactly how to find automation opportunities on your calendar. Wade and I talked about: (00:00) …
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Everyone calls their AI product an “agent” but Notion’s actually live up to the hype. It took Akshay (Notion’s co-founder) and Ryan (AI lead) 2 years of failure to build agents that can create databases, respond to Slack, and more. We had a great chat about their most surprising lessons from building the best AI agents for work. We talked about: (0…
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In Angel City, alchemy is everything. Red City is the new fantasy novel from Marie Lu (Legend, Stars and Smoke). Bookseller Keila Cone-Uemura talks to Lu about the difference between writing for an adult audience and for a YA audience. During this wide-ranging talk, they discuss the inspiration that Lu pulled from her own life and from the city of …
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Josh is the the VP of Gemini, Google Labs (NotebookLM), and AI Studio and widely considered one of Google’s most beloved leaders. In our interview, he demoed how to get the most out of Gemini and NotebookLM, the startup culture inside Google, and where he thinks Gemini is headed next. We talked about: (00:00) How Josh brings startup hustle to Googl…
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Today, I want to share a new episode with Ryan Carson.Ryan is a serial founder who has developed an amazing 3-file system to vibe code without frustration that has 5,000+ stars on Github. In our interview, he demoed adding a new feature to his production app by using AI to create a spec, generate atomic tasks, and build automated tests for each tas…
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What does it mean to grow up with music, and then grow into it? In this episode of Liminal Space, we speak with Henry Kong—festival organizer, music promoter, and 75th descendant of Confucius—about his journey from teenage rock star to cultural bridge-builder. Henry reflects on his first bands, the vibrant indie scene in Beijing, and the challenges…
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Today, I want to share a new episode with Hamel Husain. Hamel has trained 2,000+ PMs and engineers from companies like OpenAI, Anthropic, and Google on how to run AI evals. In my new episode, he shares a free master class on how to build evals for a real AI agent in just 50 minutes using a simple spreadsheet. I learned a lot from Hamel and I think …
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Today, I want to share a new episode with Meaghan Choi.As the design lead for Claude Code, Meaghan not only designs new features but also ships code on a regular basis. She showed me her exact design to code workflow along with her top 3 use cases for Claude Code. This interview is a must-watch if you’re a designer or PM who dreams of shipping to p…
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Today, I want to share a new episode with Cat Wu.Cat is the product lead for Claude Code and I got her to share how one of the most AI-native teams in tech actually works. Highlights include getting user feedback every 10 minutes, going straight to prototypes instead of docs, and designers checking in code directly. Cat also shared her 3 best Claud…
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What does it mean to build something massive, precise, and powerful—while rebuilding your own sense of belonging? In this episode of Liminal Space, host Susan Su and co-host Matt Lu talk with Julia Meyn, a naval engineer from Texas now working in Jiangyin, China. Julia shares her journey into the world of shipbuilding, from feeling like an outsider…
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Today, I want to share a new episode with Alex Finn.Alex is a founder who has built a complete “Claude Life” operating system to automate research, curate AI news, analyze brain dumps, and more. I asked him to walk through exactly how to set up this system using Claude Code slash commands and sub-agents in just 25 minutes. Alex and I talked about: …
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Today, I want to share a new episode with Nan Yu (Linear’s Head of Product).Despite only having 2 PMs, Linear has scaled to over 15,000 companies including OpenAI and Ramp. In our chat, Nan and I did a fun exercise to rank what PM skills still matter in the AI era and he also demoed Linear’s new AI agents that can write code, triage tickets, and an…
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Today, I want to share a new episode with Aman Khan.The best way to learn about AI evaluations is to watch 2 PMs build them live from scratch. In our new episode, Aman and I walk through creating evals for an AI customer support agent — from labeling a golden dataset to aligning LLM judges. This is the complete beginners AI eval course you've been …
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In advance of the screening of Johnny Mnemonic in Black & White that the BTTM crew is hosting for the American Cinematheque's Friend of the Fest 2025, Allan and Justin get together to discuss the film and the William Gibson short story that inspired it. If you're going to be in Los Angeles on Tuesday, August 26, 2025, why not come to our movie scre…
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Today, I want to share a new episode with Lee Robinson.Lee is the VP of Developer Experience at Cursor and a legend in his field. While most people are still vibe coding, Lee showed me how to build apps properly using planning, test-driven development, AI agent workflows, and more. This is a must-watch tutorial for beginners who want to learn how t…
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Today, I want to share a new episode with Ben Erez.Ben is a former Meta PM who has helped 100s of people ace their PM interviews and land their dream jobs in tech. I got him to show me exactly how to ace product sense interviews and build an AI-copilot that his students say feels like having a "calibrated interviewer that's available 24/7."Ben and …
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Abashed the devil stood, and felt how awful goodness is. The Crow (1994) is a one-of-a-kind film, borne out of tragedy and thought to be cursed. Critic and culture writer Alisha Mughal takes a look at the film, its graphic novel origins, its beautiful but doomed star Brandon Lee, and much more in her new book for the Pop Classics series, It Can't R…
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Today, I want to share a new episode with Jeremy Epling. Jeremy is the CPO of Vanta and former VP of Product at Github. He showed me the exact template that he used to get his entire team to prototype with AI, his favorite AI workflows for PM work, and why now might be the best time to be an IC PM. We also did a deep dive on how Vanta ran AI evalua…
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Meng is the founder of Aura, an AI prototyping tool for designers. He has spent 100s of hours using AI to create beautiful designs that don’t look like generic AI slop. Watch as he shares his exact process in this episode — from prompting to layouts to animations, and more without having to code.Timestamps: (00:00) Why most AI websites look generic…
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What does it really mean to live in-between—cultures, dreams, identities? Joshua Charles Woodard, entrepreneur, engineer, artist, and nightlife maestro, has spent his life exploring this very question. In our first episode, Josh (affectionately known as "Jashy") shares the incredible journey that took him from Chicago's South Side to Beijing’s pres…
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Author and comedian Sophia Benoit (Well, This Is Exhausting) joins the Better Than the Movie crew to discuss a modern children's book classic, HOLES by Louis Sachar, and its 2003 live-action Disney adaptation, which was scripted by Sachar himself, directed by Andrew Davis (The Fugitive), and starred an insanely talented ensemble cast headed by Mega…
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Today, I want to share a new episode with Kieran Klaassen.Kieran is the founder of Cora, a beautiful AI email assistant. While we’ve all been vibe coding, Kieran has gone to the next level to manage multiple AI agents to code for him at the same time. I got him to show me exactly how he does this using Claude Code, voice, slash commands, and more. …
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Today, I want to share a new episode with Morgan Brown.Morgan is the VP of Product for AI at Dropbox. He gave me an inside look at his top AI workflows. We also talked about building Dash, Dropbox’s new AI agent for work, and how AI will reshape PM.Timestamps: (00:00) How Morgan uses AI as a companion for everything he does (01:26) Morgan's 3 best …
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