Bell Curve breaks down the most important themes in crypto for people who, like us, are confined to the middle of the bell curve. Each season explores a different thesis that we'll test and refine through debate with crypto's best. If you're a crypto native, degen or investooor, this podcast is for you.
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The Continued Institutional Adoption of Crypto | Roundup
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In this episode, Mippo, Vance, and Michael discuss their reactions to the US Vice Presidential debate, and their views on meaningful crypto legislation. Additionally, they dive into the advancements in the crypto lending markets. They also unpack the current state of vesting schedules in crypto. Finally, they give their thoughts on the potential im…
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Sky Aave Force and the DeFi Renaissance | Stani Kulechov & Rune Christensen
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In this episode, DeFi legends Stani Kulechov and Rune Christensen joined us to discuss the growth of DeFi! We discussed Sky Aave Force, DeFi’s convergence on product offerings, and the impact of brand and culture in DeFi. Additionally, we dove into the growing institutional interest in crypto. Finally, we concluded the interview with Stani and Rune…
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What's Next For Crypto After the Fed Rate Cut? | Roundup
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In this episode, Mippo, Michael, and Vance discuss sentiment at Token2049 and Solana Breakpoint, the total addressable market of memecoins, and bullish shifts in the market. They also discuss what impact the US election will have on the crypto markets, and the industry as a whole. Finally, they closed the episode by diving into the impact AI is hav…
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How Bitcoin Prepared Us for the Memecoin Era | Murad Mahmudov
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In this episode, Murad Mahmudov joined us to bridge the gap between Bitcoin maximalism and memecoins! We dove into the exponential growth of altcoin bubbles, parallels between NFTs and Memecoins, and finding cult-like communities. Additionally, we asked ourselves: how important is revenue? Is Bitcoin a memecoin? Can older altcoins ever come back? F…
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Navigating the Expanding Rollup Landscape | Roundup
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In this episode, Mike and Myles discuss Solana’s new mobile phone, Seeker, and the impact it might have on crypto adoption. Additionally, they dove into the L2 landscape today, and asked themselves - when do gas costs stop being a differentiator? What are the most important aspects to consider when building an L2? Finally, they closed the episode w…
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Rethinking Ethereum's Block Building: CommitBoost & Pre-Confirmations | Drew Van der Werff
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In this episode, we dive deep into the future of Ethereum's infrastructure with Drew from CommitBoost. We unpack how CommitBoost aims to change Ethereum's block building process, potentially solving long-standing issues of censorship resistance and transaction efficiency. We unpack the concepts of inclusion lists and pre-confirmations, and how they…
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Atlas: Combining TradFi Performance With DeFi Transparency | Eugene & Frankie
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In this episode, we’re joined by Frankie from Paradigm, and Eugene from Ellipsis Labs! We discussed the launch of the Atlas L2 private testnet, why Atlas is utilizing the SVM to build an Ethereum L2, and design decisions made along the way. Additionally, we dove into Atlas’ approach to handling MEV. Finally, we covered what the Atlas application se…
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Omer Goldberg - Chaos Labs and the Onchain Risk Management Landscape
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In this episode, we chat with Omer Goldberg, founder of Chaos Labs, a company that builds economic security and risk management tooling for protocols. Omer has been in the trenches contributing to various DeFi protocols for the past few years, and shares some stories about that journey. We also chat about how Chaos has grown since inception, and wh…
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In this episode, Mike and Myles opened with discussion on crypto’s meme culture, and Near’s recent marketing stunt. They then moved on to one of our industries hottest topics: the L1 value accrual debate. Is a rollup centric roadmap good, or bad, for Ethereum? How should we think about value capture? Additionally, they wondered, how valuable is int…
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Finding Consumer Gems in Crypto | Qiao & Imran
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In this episode, Qiao and Imran from AllianceDAO joined us to discuss infrastructure exhaustion in crypto, the Fat App Thesis, and the cultural differences between blockchains. Additionally, we asked ourselves, is there a long term bull case for L1s? Where are the consumer app builders? Finally, we unpacked how TikTok has intersected with crypto, a…
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Why Crypto Founders Are Leaving the West | Roundup
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In this episode, we discuss the arrest of Telegram founder Pavel Durov and its potential impact on the TON blockchain. We then explore the SEC's lawsuit against OpenSea and its implications for NFTs as securities. The conversation shifts to the broader regulatory landscape for crypto in the US and globally. Finally, we touch on the current state of…
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Kubi Mensah - Gattaca and the MEV Supply Chain
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In this episode, we chat with Kubi, co-founder of Gattaca, most well known for its Ethereum block builder Titan. We discuss Gattaca’s journey as a trading firm and how that led them to infrastructure development across the Ethereum MEV supply chain. We then explore their strategic approach to launching Titan Builder in an already competitive builde…
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In this episode, the Roundup Crew discusses the current sentiment among market participants, and how seasonality impacts the markets. Additionally, they covered the Fed’s upcoming Jackson Hole symposium, rate cuts and job number revisions, and Kamala Harris’ potential capital gains tax policies. Finally, they took a look at Tron’s recent success an…
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Sreeram Speaks on the EigenLayer Airdrop Saga
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In this episode, Mike and Jason are joined by Sreeram Kannan, the Founder of EigenLayer to discuss the recent Eigen Labs airdrop controversy, why Eigen Labs was not upfront about this list, and what changes they are making internally. Additionally, they dive into EigenLayer’s close relationship with the Ethereum Foundation, avoiding conflicts of in…
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Who Is Bharat Ramamurti? | Alex Thorn & Nic Carter
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In this episode, Alex Thorn from Galaxy Research, and Nic Carter from Castle Island Ventures joined us to discuss Operation Choke Point 2.0! We covered who’s involved in Operation Choke Point 2.0, Bharat Ramamurti’s influence on crypto policy in the United States, and how policy will vary between a Harris presidency and a Trump presidency. Addition…
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The Conflicts of Interest in Crypto | Roundup
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In this episode, we’re joined by Jim Parillo from Figment Capital! This week we discuss the success of prediction markets, conflicts of interest in crypto today, and the importance of self policing our industry. Additionally, we question how transparent crypto really is compared to traditional finance. Finally, we dive into the way advisory roles h…
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Aavenomics: Making DeFi Great Again | Marc Zeller
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In this episode, Marc Zeller, the founder of Aave-Chan Initiative, joined us to discuss Aave and the state of DeFi today! We dive into Aave’s Umbrella safety module, competition between DeFi protocols, and concerns around WBTC. Additionally, Marc gives his thoughts on revenue distribution models in DeFi, the Minimum Viable Issuance debate, and whet…
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Are L1s Converging on the Same Design? | Roundup
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In this episode, Mike explores the most relevant topics in crypto today. He dives into Kamala Harris’ cabinet, Ripple’s settlement with the SEC, and Ethereum ETF flows to date. Additionally, he speculates on who might be the next SEC Chair after Gary Gensler. Finally, he closes with coverage of the internal debate happening within the Ethereum comm…
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Restaking’s Impact on the Future of Crypto | Season 8 Recap
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In this episode, we recap all of the themes and topics from Season 8: Restaking’s Renaissance. We compare the sentiment around restaking between the start of the season to now, discuss the various use cases around restaking, and give our thoughts on pre confirmations. Additionally, we take a look at StakeSure, and the restaking customer base. Final…
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Can Crypto Survive a Recession? | Roundup
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In this episode, the Roundup crew and Myles O’Neil are diving into the hot topics from a volatile week in the markets. They discuss the recent Compound Finance governance attack, the first week of Ethereum ETF trading, and how teams should handle token unlocks. Additionally, they ask if crypto is now a bipartisan issue, and what governance tokens s…
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How Jito is Unlocking Restaking for Solana | S8 Finale | Lucas Bruder
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In this episode, Lucas Bruder from Jito discusses their newly launched restaking platform for Solana. The conversation covers the history of Jito's products, the design choices behind their restaking solution, and how it differs from Ethereum-based platforms like Eigen Layer. Lucas explains the flexibility of Jito's approach, allowing for various a…
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Is Crypto Ready for the Big Leagues? | Roundup
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In this episode, the Roundup crew discusses Ethereum ETF flows, the Jito restaking announcement and its impact on the Solana Ecosystem, and the recent AAVEnomics update proposal. Additionally, they speculate on when the Fed will finally cut rates, and what Trump might say during his Bitcoin Conference speech. Finally, they dive into what crypto pol…
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The Bear Case for Shared Security | S8 E8 | Sunny & Toghrul
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In this episode, Sunny, the Co-founder of Osmosis, and Toghrul from Scroll joined us to present the bear case for shared security. We discussed issues with Proof of Stake, the relationship between slashing and enshrining an LST, and the market size for restaking. Finally, we provide our thoughts on the intersubjective work token, and staking’s pote…
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Deep Dive: The CAKE Framework & Building a One Click Experience | Hart Lambur & Stephane Gosselin
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In this special episode of Bell Curve, Stephane Gosselin and Hart Lambur joined us live at EthCC to discuss OneBalance and the CAKE Framework! Additionally, we dive into the economics of the solver layer, what effects an HFT dynamic arising in crypto would have, and UX in a OneBalance world. Finally, we speculate on how OneBalance will impact L2 bu…
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A New Era: Trump’s Impact on Crypto and Innovation in the U.S.
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In this episode, the Roundup crew covers a wild week in crypto and politics. They discuss the assassination attempt on Donald Trump, and how economic policy might look with JD Vance as the Vice President. Additionally, they speculate on whether or not Biden will drop out of the presidential race, and talk about the Fed’s approach to monetary policy…
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EthCC Campside Chat: Protocols, Ecosystems, Community & Tokens | Vitalik Buterin & Christopher Goes
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In this special episode, Vitalik Buterin and Christopher Goes joined us live from the Intents Discussions conference during EthCC 2024! Key highlights from this campside chat include: Vitalik’s reflections on crypto’s journey thus far and his insights on Ethereum’s inception, unbundling blockchain components, and competing with centralized protocol…
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A Fresh Take on Shared Security | S8 E7 | Misha Putiatin
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In this episode, Misha, CEO and Co-founder of Symbiotic, delves into the history and evolution of shared security. He discusses shared security’s various implementations over the years, and highlights Symbiotic's vision for the future. The conversation also touches on Symbiotic’s protocol design choices, offering a fresh perspective on shared secur…
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A New Era for U.S. Regulations | Roundup
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In this episode, the Roundup crew discusses the aftermath of the Presidential Debate, and a Trump victory’s potential impact on the markets. Additionally, they dive into what the Chevron Doctrine was, and what the implications of its overruling are. Finally, they provide their views on current sentiment within the crypto markets, and how fresh capi…
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Ethereum’s Path Forward: Aligning Security and Monetary Policy | S8 E6 | Hasu & Justin Drake
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In this episode, Hasu and Justin Drake joined us to discuss restaking, preconfs, Minimum Viable Issuance, and the future of Ethereum. We dive into the effects Ethereum monetary policy has on the validator set, the current market for restaking, and our thoughts on attester-proposer separation and proposer-builder separation. Finally, we cover what w…
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Harnessing the Untapped Potential of Bitcoin Staking | S8 E5 | David Tse
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In this episode, David Tse, Co-founder of BabylonChain, joins us to explore the latest developments in the Bitcoin ecosystem. We dive into the transformative impact of Bitcoin staking, the innovative role of Babylon, and the broader technological and cultural shifts in the Bitcoin ecosystem. Finally, David provides insight into the Bitcoin staking …
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How ZK Accounts Expand dApp Limits | John, Uma, & Zaki
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In this episode, we dive deep into the world of ZK accounts and their potential. Uma, Zaki, and John, unpack ZK accounts, the trade-offs involved in design decisions, and the political landscape. We explore how ZK accounts enable trustless interoperability, enhance scalability, and unlock a dimension for dApps. The conversation also touches upon th…
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Will the Fed Cut Rates in 2024? | Roundup
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In this episode, we discuss FOMC, previous rate cutting cycles over the years, and if the FED will cut rates prior to the presidential election. We also breakdown the differing approaches blockchains take when dealing with MEV, and the ways networks and applications can monetize. Finally, we dive into how Trump’s stance towards crypto has affected …
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Josh Lee - Keplr, and the future of Interchain Wallets
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In this episode, we chat with Josh Lee, founder of Keplr. We reminisce about the early days of Keplr, and what building a Korean Crypto company is like. We also touch on the origin story behind Osmosis, and what Josh has learned from being a co-founder of both Keplr and Osmosis. Josh also shares lessons from building an infrastructure company in Cr…
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How AVSs Enable Scalable, Secure and Customizable Execution | S8 E4 | Ludwig & Muto
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In this episode, Ludwig from Sorella Labs and Muto from Ethos, two AVS builders, join to discuss the potential of restaked ETH and attributable security to revolutionize DeFi. They dive into how AVSs offer a scalable alternative to rollups by leveraging restaking to enable customizable off-chain execution while preserving the benefits of shared L1 …
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In this jam-packed episode, we dive into Starkware's million dollar initiative to scale Bitcoin with ZK tech, debate the implications of looming ETH ETF approvals, and discuss how the largest rate cutting cycle of our lifetimes could supercharge crypto. We also break down Coinbase's new Web3 wallet, the convergence of crypto infrastructure, and why…
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Exploring Crypto's Modular Path | Rex & NoSleepJon
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In this special episode, the Jason and Mike announce the launch of Expansion, a new Blockworks podcast focusing on the modular blockchain ecosystem. Expansion hosts Rex and NoSleepJon aim to explore the modular design concepts and architectural principles in the blockchain space. They highlight the benefits and challenges of modularity, the cultura…
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The Modular Integration Spectrum | Keone & Zon
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In this episode, Keone from Monad and Zon from Initia to discuss the spectrum between modular and integrated blockchain designs. They explore the tradeoffs in decentralization, performance and scalability between the two approaches. They explore AppChains, rollups, composability challenges in modular systems, EVM compatibility, and when to scale bl…
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The Power Dynamics of Liquid Restaking | S8 E3 | Sam, Krane, & Clayton
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In this episode, we dive deep into the rapidly evolving world of liquid restaking. Our expert panel unpacks the history and rise of Liquid Restaking Tokens, exploring LRT design, yield strategies, the leverage dynamics between LRTs and Eigen Layer, and the potential impact of introducing multi-assets like Bitcoin. We examine the challenges posed by…
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Is Crypto Bipartisan Now? | Roundup
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In this episode, the guys debate whether Democrats can reverse course before the upcoming election. They also discuss the rise and fall of meme coins, despite Iggy Azalea's recent token launch. The conversation then shifts to the challenges facing Bitcoin's L2 development, OpenAI's legal battles over celebrity rights and employee NDAs, and Nvidia's…
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Exploring EigenLayer and The Future of Ethereum Security | S8 E2 | Sreeram Kannan
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In this episode we are joined by Sreeram Kannan, founder of EigenLayer, to discuss the current state and future potential of restaking. The conversation covers Eigenlayer's rapidly growing ecosystem of actively validated services (AVS), the different types of security guarantees made possible by restaking, and how restaking can benefit both externa…
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How ETH ETFs Will Reshape Crypto | Roundup
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In this episode, the crew dives into discuss the 75% odds of an ETH ETF approval this month. They unpack the implications of ETH ETFs on crypto market structure and institutional adoption. The conversation also covers the evolving regulatory landscape and the backlash against Yuga Labs over their CryptoPunks moves. Finally, they debate the future o…
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Restaking's Renaissance: The Next Generation of Blockchain Security | S8 E1
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This episode takes a deep dive into the evolving landscape of restaking and shared security. Mike and Myles trace the history of restaking from early iterations like Polkadot and Cosmos to the rise of specialized providers like Eigen Layer. They break down the market structure, analyzing the supply and demand sides, and exploring how new entrants p…
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The Growing Partisan Divide in Crypto | Roundup
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In this episode, the guys discuss the recent prosecution of the Tornado Cash developer, the potential partisan nature of crypto regulation, and the ongoing vote on SAB 121. They delve into the history of asset seizure in the US, the shifting political attitudes towards crypto, and the potential implications for the industry. The conversation also t…
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The Solana End Game | Anatoly Yakovenko & Lucas Bruder
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Gm! This week we invite Anatoly Yakovenko & Lucas Bruder to the show for a discussion on the current state of Solana. We deep dive into the transaction problem as on chain volumes have exploded in recent months. Toly & Lucas explore the solutions that could help to increase chain performance & what's next for Solana. Enjoy! -- Follow Anatoly: https…
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Anand Gomes - Paradex and the Crypto Derivatives Landscape
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In this episode, we chat with Anand Gomes, founder of Paradigm and Paradex, two different crypto derivatives products. We begin with Anand’s journey as a derivatives trader, which led him to build Paradigm, an institutional block trading platform for crypto options. After the FTX crash, Anand was inspired to create a new decentralized exchange – Pa…
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Will Crypto Leave the US? | Roundup
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In this episode, the crew discusses the current state of crypto regulation and political candidate support in the US. They explore the viability of meme coins and the challenges of annualizing returns in the crypto space. The conversation also debates crypto-native gaming, the importance of crypto remaining a key industry in the US, and the technic…
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Interoperability's Product-Market Fit | Deep Dive
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In today's episode, Michael chats with Nikhil Suri from the Wormhole Foundation about the future of multichain and interoperability in crypto. They discuss the challenges of creating a seamless user experience across different chains, the role of general message passing protocols like Wormhole, and the potential impact of zero-knowledge proofs on s…
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Eigen's Dual Staking Dilemma: Eth vs Eigen Security | Roundup
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In this episode, Mike and Myles dive into Eigen Layer's major announcement, unpacking the details and implications of the Eigen token airdrop, the Eigen Foundation, and the positioning of Eigen as an "intersubjective work token". They discuss the community's mixed reaction to the airdrop details and geo-fencing, the objectives and considerations ar…
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Crypto's Multichain Masterplan | S7 E8
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Season 7 | Episode 8 In this wrap-up episode of Season 7, Mike and Hart dive deep into the multichain endgame of crypto. They discuss how the user and developer experience might evolve in a multichain future, the role of ZK tech in enabling interoperability, and the importance of standardization across chains. They explore the potential for L1 asse…
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Solana: State Of The Network | Mert Mumtaz, Dan Smith | Lightspeed
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Gm! Bell Curve's season 7 will be back soon. This week our friends Mert and Dan from the Lighspeed discuss the state of the network, MarginFi drama, Uniswap vs the SEC, airdrops, Monad's $225 million raise & more. Enjoy! -- Follow Mert: https://twitter.com/0xMert_ Follow Dan: https://twitter.com/smyyguy Follow Lightspeed: https://twitter.com/Lights…
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