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Who thinks that they can subdue Leviathan? Strength resides in its neck; dismay goes before it. It is without fear. It looks down on all who are haughty; it is king over all who are proud. These words inspired PJ Wehry to create Chasing Leviathan. Chasing Leviathan was born out of two ideals: that truth is worth pursuing but will never be subjugated, and the discipline of listening is one of the most important habits anyone can develop. Every episode is a dialogue, a journey into the depths ...
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A podcast between two tired dads on manhood, mentoring and maturity. Join PJ Wehry and his dad Pete aka "Coach" as they discuss life lessons they've learned being dads.
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On this episode of Chasing Leviathan, PJ and Dr. Michael Patrick Lynch discusses his book, The Nature of Truth, and the goal of creating an anthology on the question of truth. They explore common misconceptions about truth and the importance of understanding what it means when we talk about propositions being true or false. The conversation delves …
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On this episode of Chasing Leviathan, PJ and Dr. Mark Roche discuss the practical, intrinsic, and moral value of a liberal arts education, as well as the role of educators in shaping the learning experience. The conversation delves into the Enlightenment and counter-Enlightenment, as well as the impact of education on individual growth and societal…
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On this episode of Chasing Leviathan, PJ and Dr. Jeremy Begbie discuss the importance of integrating the worlds of art and theology. Dr. Begbie explores the concept of reductionism and its dangers, highlighting how the arts can resist reductionism and offer unique insights into human experience. They also reflect on the unique nature of music, and …
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On this episode of Chasing Leviathan, PJ and Dr. Jason Eberl discuss the questions of human nature, human personhood, and the mind-body relationship. Dr. Eberl highlights the field of bioethics and its intersection with philosophy and theology. Together, they explore conceptions of human nature including dualism, materialism, and hylomorphism. The …
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On this episode of Chasing Leviathan, PJ and Dr. N. Gray Sutanto discuss the work of Dutch Calvinist theologian Herman Bavinck, particularly his work on the inescapability of Christian revelation in all philosophical knowing. For a deep dive into N. Gray Sutanto's work, check out his book: Philosophy of Revelation: A New Annotated Edition 👉 https:/…
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On this episode of Chasing Leviathan, PJ and Dr. Cynthia R. Wallace discuss the contradictions and impact of Simone Weil's life and work. Dr. Wallace explores the importance of embodiment in Weil's philosophy and the connection between obligations and the body. She highlights the impact of Weil's Christian convictions, particularly those related to…
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On this episode of Chasing Leviathan, PJ and Dr. Amber Jamilla Musser discuss the concept of sensation and how it shapes our understanding of the world. She examines various works of art, including the film ‘Us’ by Jordan Peele and the dance piece ‘Shango’ by Katherine Dunham to explore the complexities of representation and authenticity. The conve…
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On this episode of Chasing Leviathan, PJ and Ibe Liebenberg discuss the role of poetry in processing and expressing trauma. Ibe shares how his work as both a firefighter and lecturer at Chico State University inform his creative process. The conversation highlights the power of poetry in addressing societal issues and the importance of finding a su…
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On this episode of Chasing Leviathan, PJ and Dr. Caroline Pennock discuss the gap in Indigenous history being brought to European consciousness and the erasure of Indigenous perspectives in colonial societies. She highlights the complexity and diversity of Indigenous experiences, exploring a third culture that emerges between Indigenous and Europea…
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In this episode of Chasing Leviathan, PJ and Dr. Adrie Kusserow discuss her use of prose poetry to explore trauma and culture. She explains that her background in anthropology and her dissatisfaction with academic writing led her to embrace poetry as a way to capture the complexity of human experiences. The conversation explores the importance of s…
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In this episode of Chasing Leviathan, PJ and Dr. Nikky Singh discuss her personal journey with Sikhi and her work in introducing Sikhi, translating Sikh hymns, and taking a feminist approach to Sikh literature. For a deep dive into Nikky Singh's work, check out her recent book: Janamsakhi: Paintings of Guru Nanak in Early Sikh Art 👉 https://www.ama…
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In this episode of Chasing Leviathan, PJ and Dr. Nancy Bradbury discuss the study of pre-modern reading practices of proverbs, particularly in Chaucer's works. Dr. Bradbury explores the contestation between clerics and working-class individuals, as well as the anti-feminist proverbs countered by the wife of Bath. Through the conversation, listeners…
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In this episode of Chasing Leviathan, PJ and Dr. Christopher Hamilton discuss the variety of rapturous moments that humans experience throughout their lives. Dr. Hamilton explores the common thread of rapture between such diverse activities as gardening, tightrope walking, and sexual intimacy, inviting us all to slow down and make ourselves open to…
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In this episode of Chasing Leviathan, PJ and Dr. Robert Pippin discuss Heidegger's metaphysics and his conclusion that Hegel was the culmination of the Western philosophical tradition. Pippin explores Heidegger's question of the meaning of being and how it differs from traditional philosophical inquiries, as well as Heidegger's critique of Hegel's …
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In this episode of Chasing Leviathan, PJ and Dr. Stanley Hauerwas discuss Living Gently in a Violent World and the inspiration behind it. Hauerwas reflects on the controversy surrounding co-author Jean Vanier and the L'Arche movement. Dr. Hauervass explores the concept of time and the importance of patience in our lives. He also discusses Sabbath, …
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In this episode of Chasing Leviathan, PJ and Dr. Marcy Norton discuss the different ways Europeans and indigenous peoples in the Americas interacted with animals, and how their encounter re-shaped both groups' perceptions of non-human creatures. Dr. Norton invites us to consider the conditions that promote empathy and curiosity towards animals and …
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In this episode of Chasing Leviathan, PJ and Dr. Angela Knobel discuss the difference between acquired and infused virtue and the role of grace in Thomas Aquinas' work on moral development. They also have a fascinating and informative exchange comparing Reformed and Catholic approaches to issues of nature, virtue, and grace. For a deep dive into An…
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In this episode of Chasing Leviathan, PJ and Dr. Alex Reid discuss the role of digital media technologies in shaping communication and knowledge production. He explores the impact of generative AI and the changing landscape of technology in fields like digital marketing and filmmaking. Dr. Reid also examines how technology shapes our attention and …
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In this episode of Chasing Leviathan, PJ and Dr. Chip Colwell discuss the origin of things, exploring how humans went from having nothing to having everything over the course of four million years. Dr. Colwell emphasizes the interplay between biology and culture, highlighting how our ancestors' use of tools led to physiological changes and the emer…
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In this episode of Chasing Leviathan, PJ and Dr. Colin Webster discuss the impact of tools and technology on ancient understandings of the human body. Dr. Webster explores historical shifts of our views of the body, and the wisdom that can be gained from studying historical paradigms of medicine from ancient cultures. For a deep dive into Colin Web…
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In this episode of Chasing Leviathan, PJ and Dr. Jeremy Weber discuss the importance of understanding statistics in the context of public policy. Dr. Weber provides helpful insights into interpreting statistics, including common mistakes in reading and using them. While we often think of statistics as final nail in policymaking decisions, Dr. Weber…
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In this episode of Chasing Leviathan, PJ and Dr. David Banks discuss how the attention economy has led to the rise of "authentic" urban lifestyles. Dr. Banks explains how social media and other cultural forces have played on our nostalgia in ways that makes groups as different as urban hipsters and MAGA supporters in small-town America seek to find…
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In this episode of Chasing Leviathan, PJ and Dr. Samuel W. Franklin discuss the concept of creativity and its historical development. Dr. Franklin examines the disagreements and fuzziness surrounding the definition of creativity and its connection to art, imagination, and genius. He also delves into the relationship between creativity and capitalis…
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In this episode of Chasing Leviathan, PJ and Dr. Michael Sawyer discuss the concept of temporality, particularly in relation to the diasporic black subject. Dr. Sawyer explores the fractured temporal relationships experienced by individuals who have been affected by catastrophic events such as the Middle Passage and current experiences of racial op…
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In this episode of Chasing Leviathan, PJ and Dr. Nicholas Dirks discuss the crisis of the humanities being seen on many college campuses, including challenges to the free exchange of speech. Dirks calls explores origins of the humanities in the university and calls for a re-imagining of humanistic learning to address contemporary challenges. For a …
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In this episode of Chasing Leviathan, PJ and Dr. Will Adams discuss our current climate crisis and the ways in which psychology, spirituality, and continental philosophy can provide a path forward for heeding a sacred call to love the natural world. For a deep dive into Will Adams's work, check out his book: A Wild and Sacred Call: Nature-Psyche-Sp…
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In this episode of Chasing Leviathan, PJ and Dr. Mark Roche discuss how various forms of ugliness can heighten the beauty we find within works of art and literature. Dr. Roche provides an overview of various approaches to the ugly, including Christian, Hegellian, and modern traditions, and gives parameters for what is meant by "ugly." Dr. Roche als…
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In this episode of Chasing Leviathan, PJ and Dr. Edwin Murillo discuss Latin American existentialism and, incorrect, historical assumption that it is a derivation of its European counterpart. Dr. Murillo shares examples of early Latin American existentialist works, such as those by José Asuncion Silva in the late 19th century. He also explores the …
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In this episode of Chasing Leviathan, PJ is joined by Dr. Graham McAleer and Dr. Alexander Rosenthal-Pubul to discuss the conservative tradition, particularly its formulation between the poles of nationalism and liberalism in the 21st century. Drs. McAleer and Rosenthal-Pubul argue for an ancestral conservatism that emphasizes transcendence, family…
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In this episode of Chasing Leviathan, PJ and Dr. Janet Soskice discuss the philosophical and theological implications of naming God. Dr. Soskice explores the difference between names and attributes, the centrality of the doctrine of Creation to understanding God, and how Scripture, theology, and philosophy can be re-united. For a deep dive into Jan…
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In this episode of Chasing Leviathan, PJ and Dr. Justine Murison the historical development of privacy, autonomy, and authenticity from the 19th to the 21st centuries. The discussion begins by examining how the rise of secularism in the 19th-century caused a shift in thinking about morality and privacy. Murison then draws parallels between historic…
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In this episode of Chasing Leviathan, PJ and Dr. Richard Kearney discuss Salvage, Dr. Kearney's most recent work of fiction that follows the story of Maeve O'Sullivan, a young Irish women who is the last inheritor of "the old ways of healing." At the dawn of WWII, O'Sullivan must navigate holding onto the tradition handed down to her and the world …
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In this episode of Chasing Leviathan, PJ and Dr. Joshua Rasmussen discuss personhood, personal identity, and consciousness. Dr. Rasmussen explores challenges in understanding consciousness, why theists and atheists must both wrestle with these challenges, and concrete ways for listeners to ponder their own existence. For a deep dive into Joshua Ras…
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In this episode of Chasing Leviathan, PJ and Dr. Alison Knight discuss the history of biblical interpretation in early modern England, particularly how translators crafted apologetic approaches to explain difficult passages. Dr. Knight explores the profound impact that debates on interpretation had on the British crown and the whole of Britain, as …
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In this episode of Chasing Leviathan, PJ and Dr. Ioana Jucan discuss how Cartesian metaphysics and capitalism have led to the "post-truth" world we currently find ourselves in. Dr. Jucan explores the potential of performativity, particularly theatrical performance, to bridge the gap between abstract thought and lived experience, offering a more emb…
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In this episode of Chasing Leviathan, PJ and Dr. Philip Stern discuss the historical development of corporations and their integral role in shaping British colonialism. In examining the historical relationship between corporations and empire, Dr. Stern sheds light on how corporations have influenced daily life and political structures, from library…
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In this episode of Chasing Leviathan, PJ and Dr. John Russon discuss what it means to be an adult. Dr. Russon explores the centrality of responsibility in delineating childhood from adulthood, as well as other key elements, such as the shift in how one engages with space. For a deep dive into John Russon's work, check out his book: Adult Life: Agin…
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In this episode of Chasing Leviathan, PJ and Dr. Philippe Huneman discuss one of humanity's most common questions: "Why?" Dr. Hunemann explores the various meanings of the question, complications in understanding it, and how to understand it within the context of evolutionary biology. For a deep dive into Philippe Huneman's work, check out his book…
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In this episode of Chasing Leviathan, PJ and Dr. Meg Leja discuss the transformation of medicine during the Carolingian empire, particularly how the practice of medicine became adopted as a Christian practice, despite its pagan associations. An often overlooked and misunderstood time of European history, Dr. Leja explains how these shifts in attitu…
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In this episode of Chasing Leviathan, PJ and Jonathan Lethem discuss the themes and influences of Lethem's latest book, Brooklyn Crime Novel, as well as the process of writing hardboiled detective fiction. For a deep dive into Jonathan Lethem's work, check out his book: Brooklyn Crime Novel: A Novel 👉 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BSFSN49G/ Check out…
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In this episode of Chasing Leviathan, PJ and Dr. Melanie Marotta discuss the integration of neo-slave narratives into contemporary works of young adult texts featuring female, adolescent protagonists of color. Dr. Marotta explores both slave and neo-slave narratives, shedding light on the evolution from the former to the latter. She also shares why…
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In this episode of Chasing Leviathan, PJ and Dr. Gary Morson discuss the Russian literary tradition, particularly as it relates to the "accursed questions" of life, morality, and the transcendent. For a deep dive into Gary Morson's work, check out his book: Wonder Confronts Certainty: Russian Writers on the Timeless Questions and Why Their Answers …
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In this episode of Chasing Leviathan, PJ and Robert Verchick discuss the adaptations we need to make, both globally and locally, to address the wide-sweeping effects of climate change. Though climate change presents us with an uphill battle, there is reason to be hopeful that we can make a positive impact for future generations. For a deep dive int…
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In this episode of Chasing Leviathan, PJ and Dr. Yvonne Chireau discuss religion, magic, and syncretism in the context of the spiritualities that arose among enslaved Africans in the US and Caribbean. Dr. Chireau also explores the role that the Conjuring tradition had in shaping the African American experience, as well as our assumptions about the …
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In this episode of Chasing Leviathan, PJ and Dr. Christina Katopodis discuss the need for new ways of facilitating learning that help students develop vital skills and process knowledge, rather than continuing to educate students to be mere retainers of facts. They also share personal stories from the classroom that point to challenges and opportun…
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In this episode of Chasing Leviathan, PJ and Dr. Amy Kind discuss her written debate with Daniel Stolijar on the nature of consciousness. Dr. Kind walks us through the secular dualist position that she defends and explains Dr. Stolijar's ignorance hypothesis. For those wondering if dualism is a purely religious position, Dr. Kind offers several hel…
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In this episode of Chasing Leviathan, PJ and Dr. Lewis Gordon discuss the intersections of philosophy, art, politics, and freedom. Dr. Gordon persuasively argues that art is a primary social good that has the power to elevate humanity, foster community accountability, and transform societies. For a deep dive into Dr. Lewis Gordon's work, check out …
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In this episode of Chasing Leviathan, PJ and Dr. Stephen Meawad discuss the reintegration of contemporary ethics with ancient Christian theology and practice. Dr. Meawad argues that virtue ethics alone is not sufficient to lead to a full life as it can only turn us inward, ultimately leading to failure and frustration. It is only in our pursuit of …
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In this episode of Chasing Leviathan, PJ and Dr. Oliver Turnbull discuss real case studies of mistakes made in the caring for patients with neuropsychological needs. Dr. Turnbull shares about the need (and reluctance) to make such cases known and how hearing from the first-person experiences of these patients can impact the next generation of clini…
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In this episode of Chasing Leviathan, PJ and Dr. Sarah Horton discuss philosophy of friendship, exploring how these particular relationships complement our finite existence. Dr. Horton also shares how friendship, though a source of tremendous risk, is worth facing the anxiety of the unknown. For a deep dive into Dr. Sarah Horton's work, check out h…
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