WNB Full Circle presents our past interviews with artistic luminaries that explore the ways we can lead our most creative, passionate, multi-faceted lives. We all joke about running away to the woods to live out our creative witchy fantasies but musician Zola Jesus actually did it. She spoke with us about the dynamic tension between being an auteur…

WNB Full Circle presents our past interviews with artistic luminaries that explore the ways we can lead our most creative, passionate, multi-faceted lives. Punk rock musician Kathleen Hanna is a feminist icon. From her bands Bikini Kill and Le Tigre to her non profit Tees4Togo, she embodies the kind of multipassionate creative energy that inspires …

WNB Full Circle presents our past interviews with artistic luminaries that explore the ways we can lead our most creative, passionate, multi-faceted lives. This episode features Grammy award winning musician Allison Russell. In this interview, Allison emphasizes the importance of collaboration and community when it comes to leading a creative life.…

WNB Full Circle presents our past interviews with artistic luminaries that explore the ways we can lead our most creative, passionate, multi-faceted lives. This episode features musician Julien Baker, a brilliant solo artist and member of the supergroup BoyGenius along with Phoebe Bridgers and Lucy Dacus. In this interview, Julien talks about how w…

WNB Full Circle presents interviews with artistic luminaries that explore the ways we can lead our most creative, passionate, multi-faceted lives. This episode features musician, writer, and podcaster Jensen McRae. In this interview, Jensen described how she navigates through life as a professional creative artist by embracing change and exploring …

WNB Full Circle presents interviews with artistic luminaries that explore the ways we can lead our most creative, passionate, multi-faceted lives. Our first Full Circle episode features Grammy nominated electronic neo-classical musician Ólafur Arnalds, who spoke to us from his hometown of Reykjavik about the importance of slowing down to appreciate…

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by ⁠musician⁠ and ⁠therapist⁠ Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and ⁠photographer⁠ Laura Studarus. Over the years we have interviewed so many amazing guests that we are releasing a series of Best of Why Not Both episodes which feature clips from our favorite cha…

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by ⁠musician⁠ and ⁠therapist⁠ Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and ⁠photographer⁠ Laura Studarus. Over the years we have interviewed so many amazing guests that we are releasing a series of Best of Why Not Both episodes which feature clips from our favorite cha…

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by ⁠musician⁠ and ⁠therapist⁠ Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and ⁠photographer⁠ Laura Studarus. Over the years we have interviewed so many amazing guests that we are releasing a series of Best of Why Not Both episodes which feature clips from our favorite cha…

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by ⁠musician⁠ and ⁠therapist⁠ Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and ⁠photographer⁠ Laura Studarus. Over the years we have interviewed so many amazing guests that we are releasing a series of Best of Why Not Both episodes which feature clips from our favorite cha…

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and photographer Laura Studarus. Over the years we have interviewed so many amazing guests that we are releasing a series of Best of Why Not Both episodes which feature clips from our favorite chats. Th…

We got to chat with Jeffrey Leiser about why he decided that he absolutely had to make Freydís and Gudrid, an Icelandic opera film, the magic of sound design, and how he wants to set a positive example of a life well lived for his kids. Did we catch your interest? You can also keep up with Jeffrey's work at Albino Fawn Productions and on Instagram.…

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and photographer Laura Studarus. We partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. Between wild adventures on Russian trains and music fans with mac…

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and photographer Laura Studarus. We partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. We chatted with Harper Simon and Julia Holter about medieval love…

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and photographer Laura Studarus. We partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. Tove Lo spent a fair bit of time in her youth fighting with her b…

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and photographer Laura Studarus. We partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. In an increasingly divisive landscape, S.G. Goodman makes music t…

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and photographer Laura Studarus. We partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. Near death experiences, unusual moments, and novel drum parts are…

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and photographer Laura Studarus. We partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. Bryce Drew has moved around to many colorful locations, from her …

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and photographer Laura Studarus. We partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. John Darnielle lives purely in the creative moment, whether he is…

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and photographer Laura Studarus. We partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. As a songwriter and artist, MØ is not so secretly everywhere, wit…

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and photographer Laura Studarus. We partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. Best selling author/podcast host/journalist Dana Schwartz and wri…

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and photographer Laura Studarus. We partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. Emilia Richeson is the magical musical mind behind Pony Sweat, th…

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and photographer Laura Studarus. For our fifth season, we partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. Sometimes you have to retrace your steps to…

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and photographer Laura Studarus. For our fifth season, we partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. You know that friend introduces you to bran…

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and photographer Laura Studarus. For our fifth season, we partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. As a sexual content creator, columnist, aut…

Katie Thiroux brings a beautiful sense of calm strength to all she pursues, from jazz festivals to teaching at USC. We got to chat about how she cultivated a collection of music students around the world over the last few years during the pandemic and the importance of embracing the different seasons of life we find ourselves in. It's a gift gettin…

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and photographer Laura Studarus. For our fifth season, we partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. Nabil Ayers didn't set out to write a book …

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and photographer Laura Studarus. For our fifth season, we partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. Sometimes you have to hop into someone else…

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and photographer Laura Studarus. For our fifth season, we partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. How do you have a private life when the per…

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and photographer Laura Studarus. For our fifth season, we partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. Geography is often a vital collaborator for…

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and photographer Laura Studarus. For our fifth season, we partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. Kae Tempest has an obsession with words, th…

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and photographer Laura Studarus. For our fifth season, we partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. What if our sensitivity is actually our gre…

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and photographer Laura Studarus. For our fourth season, we partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. Neurodivergence and music and mental healt…

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and photographer Laura Studarus. For our fifth season, we partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. John Vanderslice is really onto something t…

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and photographer Laura Studarus. For our fifth season, we partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. Yoni Wolf found himself missing the connect…

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and photographer Laura Studarus. For our fifth season, we partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. Our guest Hrishikesh Hirway embodies the et…

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and photographer Laura Studarus. For our fifth season, we partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. Rebecca of Self Esteem chatted with us abou…

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and photographer Laura Studarus. For our fifth season, we partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. Jenny Hval wasted no time hopping straight …

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and photographer Laura Studarus. For our fifth season, we partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. Although he never set out to be a musician,…

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and photographer Laura Studarus. For our fifth season, we partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. While chatting with Jensen McRae, we discov…

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and photographer Laura Studarus. For our fifth season, we partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. Music gives us hope and few people know thi…

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and photographer Laura Studarus. For our fifth season, we partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. Actress and activist Amber Iman made histor…

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and photographer Laura Studarus. For our fifth season, we partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. Musician Tasha describes the magic that com…

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and photographer Laura Studarus. For our fifth season, we partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. When Lauren Mayberry of CHVRCHES sat down t…

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and photographer Laura Studarus. For our fourth season, we partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. Psychologist Dr. Mike thought that he bomb…

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and photographer Laura Studarus. For our fourth season, we partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. Sometimes chaos and play are the best ingr…

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and photographer Laura Studarus. For our fourth season, we partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. It was such a gift to spend time with Yola…

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and photographer Laura Studarus. For our fourth season, we partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. Melissa Auf der Maur leads a fairytale lif…

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and photographer Laura Studarus. For our fourth season, we partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. Jon Hopkins jumped straight into our inter…

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and photographer Laura Studarus. For our fourth season, we partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. Over the last several decades, They Might …